Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
]Not an answer. Your statement had NOTHING to do with anyone's jobs.

It did. Learn to read.



I don't think you understand the concepts of rape or of people's sex lives being none of your business.

When it comes down to more taxes and social programs then it is my business.



A growth of cells several weeks old which could not exist or survive outside of its host is not a "baby" any more than an unlaid egg is a chicken.

The baby is alive. Like it or not.

Chicken eggs have nothing to do with this.
 
It did. Learn to read.

No it didn't. A legislative body's job is to write, discuss, pass and reject legislation; when those exact things happened you expressed a desire to see civilians murdered. How does that make sense with your supposed answer?

When it comes down to more taxes and social programs then it is my business.

Then surely you would be more supportive of elective abortions, which are generally privately done, than of contraception, which is available through taxpayer-funded programs? You can't oppose the private one on tax grounds.

The baby is alive. Like it or not.

Chicken eggs have nothing to do with this.

They do though. An unsustainable embryo is an unsustainable embryo. Every cell in a living body is "alive", even the ones you sneeze out. To say that a bundle of unformed organs, a collection of stem cells that cannot actually survive by itself is a "baby" is a ridiculous stretch--just like calling an unlaid egg a chicken, or like any of your arguments.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
If people don't do their jobs, not an endorsement of anything.
I have NO clue what the fuck this means....

If you don't want a child keep your legs closed.
Sometimes legs are forced open...sometimes condoms break, sometimes even though a girl takes the pill, she still gets pregnant.

If you can't and become pregnant have the child.
Sometimes having the child is dangerous to the mother...turning off the instinct for self preservation is not something people can do. Sometimes having a child isn't something that is safe for the child either. Delivering a child, that will have no quality of life is a sin in it's self.

You don't have the right to murder a baby.
You don't have the right to determine when life begins, nor do you have the qualifications. Nor do you have the right to call one thing a justifiable execution, and another thing murder.


There will be no compensation for your own actions.
But you think it's acceptable for you and your ilk to control a persons life and future, without question?

Learn what responsibility is.
I know what responsibility is. That's why I have no children.

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I've posted my feelings on abortion before and they lean more to the practical than the theological.

What actually gets me more than the abortion debate is the people who speak so definitely one way or the other. I'm envious in one sense that maybe they have figured our all of the moral pitfalls and really have a handle on it. If I'm honest with myself, I just think they're lazy, have plopped their brains on a decision and aren't going to worry about the moral implications. I happen to think no matter where you fall on this one, thee is some ugliness on your side. That includes me and where I've plopped my brain on the matter.

If you're not concerned with the moral implications of what you support on this topic, then I don't think you have an understanding. Life is messy.
 

Philbert

Banned
I've posted my feelings on abortion before and they lean more to the practical than the theological.

What actually gets me more than the abortion debate is the people who speak so definitely one way or the other. I'm envious in one sense that maybe they have figured our all of the moral pitfalls and really have a handle on it. If I'm honest with myself, I just think they're lazy, have plopped their brains on a decision and aren't going to worry about the moral implications. I happen to think no matter where you fall on this one, thee is some ugliness on your side. That includes me and where I've plopped my brain on the matter.

If you're not concerned with the moral implications of what you support on this topic, then I don't think you have an understanding. Life is messy.

Damn straight, buddy. And messy is how come most people stop worrying about the grey areas, like is it ok to abort a 20 week fetus? Hell, I don't think so, but I have to fuck with someone's free space and self determination to intervene in pregnancy termination. If Doctors refuse to abort viable 4 and 5 month fetus', will the idiot crack whore kill herself AND the unborn baby through an underground procedure, or just a drug overdose? That kills the baby just as surely. And when a Mother will most likely bleed to death from a birth or C section, is it her choice to choose who dies?
Some Mothers give their lives for their children born or not, some want the baby removed and to live no matter what.
How does society choose which is acceptable? And is it possible to make a line anywhere, the closer it gets to possible fetal viability given the likelihood any preemie will survive? That is never a given, even with high Dollar modern incubation and post-natal care.
You are so right, life is messy, I got nothing here.

Babies are real cute, though. I vote for a 20 week cut-off, without a court order signed off on by at least 2 Doctors.
Morning After pill available wherever drugs are sold.
 
If people don't do their jobs, not an endorsement of anything.

If you don't want a child keep your legs closed.
If you can't and become pregnant have the child.
You don't have the right to murder a baby.

There will be no compensation for your own actions.
Learn what responsibility is.

you really are a horrible cunt will.

so what about cases where a young girl is raped by someone suffering from an STI? She falls pregnant, the child when born will suffer from birth defects as a result of the STI it is now carrying and will be requiring constant care and attention from the mother and family. Now this poor girl has a constant reminder of her ordeal. The child as a result of the birth defects will not be able to lead a full and active life either and when the inevitable questions come about who its dad is the mother will either have to lie, or to tell the child the whole awful truth about its conception which im sure would not be pleasant for the mother or child.

Whereas, within hours of finding out she is pregnant to a vile rapist who took her innocence away from her, she can go to a clinic, take just two little pills and within a couple of hours all this is avoided and she can go on with trying to rebuild her life.

I would never wish this one someone else, but i fear that it would take something like this happening to someone close to you before you realised the ignorance of your views. But I hope you never have to, but maybe if you just opened your narrow mind from time to time you may start to think differently.
 
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