max hardcore gets in trouble w the law...

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
The difference here is that Max Hardcore do some really disgusting things with girls, he uses them like sexual tools, he makes them do things that they don't want to do, ...

dammit. why does nobody understand this?

everyone knows who max hardcore is. right?

the girls signed up! they dont have to work with him! yes, to some people the stuff he puts out there is quite unappealing, but hey, dont watch it if u dont like it. the girls arent stupid. you cant get pissed at max for treating the girls like he does. thats what he does, thats his thing. he's appealing toward an audience who obvious exists otherwise he wouldnt be selling any movies.

the girls know what theyre in for, you cant tell me that there is not a single girl out there that might be into the same shit as max? there is. ive even seen it personally. if youre gonna get mad because of the crazy shit he does, get mad at the girls too because they are enabling him to do it. its a 2 way street.

i dont like max, you dont like max, a lot of people dont. but there are people who do. luckily, everyone has the choice to buy and watch his movies or not. the choice is yours. isnt this kind of like larry flints argument?
 

McRocket

Banned
From what I know of the guy the charges are fine with me. He sounds like pimps I have known and known of. He obviously takes advantage of most women when they are weak/insecure/ignorant/desperate.

99+% of women would not enjoy many of the things that I have read he asks/gets them to do in his movies. These women do it because of various reasons; almost none of which are sexual desire.

He sounds like a pimp. He gets zero sympathy from me (based on what I have read about him and his movies).


Thank you for posting this Neesa.
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
even larry flynt was targeted. damn right wing christians. :mad:

Indeed.

dammit. why does nobody understand this?

everyone knows who max hardcore is. right?

the girls signed up! they dont have to work with him! yes, to some people the stuff he puts out there is quite unappealing, but hey, dont watch it if u dont like it. the girls arent stupid. you cant get pissed at max for treating the girls like he does. thats what he does, thats his thing. he's appealing toward an audience who obvious exists otherwise he wouldnt be selling any movies.

Yes but mostly no. The lyric from an eminem song works here: "I'll take your ass on Jerry Springer and beat your ass legally." is perfect. Even if you signed a waiver, eeeeven if it's in private... it's still abuse. Assault. Slander. Rape? Possibly. Many of which are... by legal definition, and by evidence of many, many recordings from his label.. illegal. That's the argument, I think. Just because his *clients* have signed away their rights and know what's going to happen.. doesnt make it right... at least in the minds of the people/authorities. I'm not happy nor mad at any MH news or video. :p
 
From what I know of the guy the charges are fine with me. He sounds like pimps I have known and known of. He obviously takes advantage of most women when they are weak/insecure/ignorant/desperate.

99+% of women would not enjoy many of the things that I have read he asks/gets them to do in his movies. These women do it because of various reasons; almost none of which are sexual desire.

He sounds like a pimp. He gets zero sympathy from me (based on what I have read about him and his movies).


Thank you for posting this Neesa.

Unfortunately they were also adults who are allowed to make their own decisions. Part of being an adult is the fact your allowed to might make bad decisions that you might regret later, like getting into porn, and more importantly that's not what they’re charging him with. It's like saying you have no problem with somebody being charged with something that he shouldn't be as long as you think he was a bad person anyway. Surely you can see the lack of forethought in that and in the big picture how that can hurt society more when they use that as precedent to go after people that aren't scum, which eventually is what's going to happen.
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
what abuse? They knew what they were getting into before they did the shot!
 

Ax3C

Banned
what abuse? They knew what they were getting into before they did the shot!

I'm not trying to get into an argument or be insulting or anything remotely resembling anything other than my own personal opinion, but the statement you just made, Legzman, is incredibly ignorant and most of all, horrifying, man.

I know nothing about Max Harcore or any of the others of his ilk aside from what I've learned on here, but I DO know that even IF those women knew what "they were getting into" (and might I add, that doesn't exclude, preclude, or hide the fact that people like that apparently sorry fucker think NOTHING about LYING to get whatever they want), it still does NOT excuse RAPE or any other kind of PHYSICAL, MENTAL, OR SEXUAL ABUSE.

And that's what it is, no matter how hard y'all try to justify it. I don't care if a god-damned fucking "contract" was signed or not. It's filth, nasty shit. It's the shit in the sewer of porn, in my opinion.

Sorry, but that's my :2 cents:

If you people condone and accept this sort of shit, then I truly, truly, truly pity you all.

I like porn and enjoy the nude female form as much as the next man, but I do not and will not condone this kind of shit ... EVER. The sorry motherfucker needs to be strung up by one of his slimy balls and eviscerated with a rusty butter knife from his fucking greasy throat to his smelly nuts.



Like I said, Legzman, not targeting YOU ... only your choice of words and that general opinion. :hatsoff:
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
^^^that's fine. If you look hard enough, he's not the only so called "scum bag" out there! Anything can be twisted to the whim of those who are against porn.

So they take this guy out of the business, maybe, what's next? Oh I know let's target lesbian porn as it's just not natural and it's against the bible! Yada, yada...it's all these bible thumpers that make me fuckin sick!

I honestly don't see this guy as abusive. I see those who are trying to lock him up and put a stop to him and those like him as abusive to our rights!

Porn has been, is and always will be degrading and disgusting to certain groups of people! They should mind their own fucking business and leave the rest of us to enjoy porn!

This isn't about this one guy, it's about porn as we know it!
 

McRocket

Banned
Unfortunately they were also adults who are allowed to make their own decisions. Part of being an adult is the fact your allowed to might make bad decisions that you might regret later, like getting into porn, and more importantly that's not what they’re charging him with. It's like saying you have no problem with somebody being charged with something that he shouldn't be as long as you think he was a bad person anyway. Surely you can see the lack of forethought in that and in the big picture how that can hurt society more when they use that as precedent to go after people that aren't scum, which eventually is what's going to happen.

I don't care about society in this case. All I care about is a piece of slime is getting some karma.
If a woman is emotionally weak enough, she will do almost anything.

And I have seen this type before. They prey on weak women. Women that are not capable at that moment and time of making a rational decision for numerous reasons.
They feed off that weakness for their own thrills and/or profit.

If he is guilty, then he will be convicted. If he is not, he has at least been inconvenienced. And others might be a little scared off to do what he apparently does.

And Torre82min made an excellent point (I thought). Even if someone agrees to be abused or raped or whatever, it is still illegal to perpetrate the act on someone.

I understand your objection on the grounds of freedoms and liberties. But you cannot go around abusing weak and/or desperate women just because you got/conned them into signing off on it.

When I was an addict, I saw people do incredible things to get high. And I saw people take advantage of those people. And those people would have signed almost anything to get high. For even an hour.
I learned then to never underestimate what a person will voluntarily do when they are down/weak/desperate enough.
And guys like him obviously know it and know how to exploit it.

Besides. Do we know exactly what the evidence and charges are against him? Until we do and they are proved unjustified, I will be fine knowing he is in hot water.
 
And Torre82min made an excellent point (I thought). Even if someone agrees to be abused or raped or whatever, it is still illegal to perpetrate the act on someone.

tell that to robb black. he produced the same stuff as max and he walked! he will laugh in your face.
 

McRocket

Banned
tell that to robb black. he produced the same stuff as max and he walked! he will laugh in your face.


Where did I type that I wanted him convicted and incarcerated?

Harassing him is good enough for me.

If he is truly guilty, then he will be convicted.

If he is not, then hurting his financial situation is fine with me.

Incarceration won't help this clown, imo.

Hurting his wallet will though, I bet.

And if that doesn't teach him, karma will.
 
Just remember if Max goes down then all the other porn entities will eventually follow. Anabolic, Diabolic, Zero Tolerance, Third Degree, Combat Zone, Red Light District, Platinum X, Wicked, Vivid, etc. The current administration has very strict guidelines as to what is obscene and what isn't and they are not going to listen to you guys when you complain. They plan to take EVERYONE down.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Just remember if Max goes down then all the other porn entities will eventually follow. Anabolic, Diabolic, Zero Tolerance, Third Degree, Combat Zone, Red Light District, Platinum X, Wicked, Vivid, etc. The current administration has very strict guidelines as to what is obscene and what isn't and they are not going to listen to you guys when you complain. They plan to take EVERYONE down.


And that right there is the point...it never stops with these politicians, they sit in judgment of others, and pound there moral pulpits as they shake a finger at us...then go to there secret apartments, where they keep their mistresses. They all seem to scream about whats right and wrong, all in the name of "the children", but then seem to forget that stealing, and embezzling from the working mans retirement funds are just as morally reprehensible. They worry about who is marrying, or sleeping with who...but can't seem to get their heads out of their own asses long enough to realize that if you don't want to see something, you don't buy it, or you change the channel.
 

McRocket

Banned
Just remember if Max goes down then all the other porn entities will eventually follow. Anabolic, Diabolic, Zero Tolerance, Third Degree, Combat Zone, Red Light District, Platinum X, Wicked, Vivid, etc. The current administration has very strict guidelines as to what is obscene and what isn't and they are not going to listen to you guys when you complain. They plan to take EVERYONE down.

Shutting down Max Hardcore and shutting down Vivid are two entirely different things.
Surely, you can see that.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that basic pornography is legal. They couldn't shut it down if they wanted - and they probably do want to; ignoramuses that they are.
 

bigbadbrody

Banned
Finally... something is being done

They need to give the bastard the death penalty
 
it seems as though they're getting him for sharing the harder versions of his scenes here, with the watersports, fisting etc

they're illegal in the states, right?
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
Some things are technically illegal. But the case to be made in the states is that abusing chicks is just "sorta uncool" to most people. To a politician it's probably a moneybag lined with votes. Sometimes I wonder how long a democracy/republic hybrid like ours can really last before extreme corruption crumbles in upon itself.
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
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