Lutherans to allow sexually active gays as clergy

[TrueTranssexual]

I'm not sure why.
You will have to ask Him that question.



There were only a few people in that time.

Cain was marked after he murdered his brother and sent to the land of Nod.
I believe his skin was turned black and he went to Africa.

Has the Garden of Eden been located at last?



See my first comment.



You will have to decide for yourself. I can't make you believe.

It could be.

That seems to be very rational, believe in something you can't even explain.
And I was being sarcastic with my devil comment...everytime a religious person is confronted with something they can't answer, it must be devil "attacking." A devil that after all, was their God's creation.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

That is from the Catholic cult.
A pastor is to be the husband of one wife.

The Catholics are lying to you.




They shouldn't be that way in the first place.
There was one garden in the Bible and it had a male and a female.

I know someone who was born XX and XY karyotype, has ovarian tissue and testicular tissue. A true hermaphrodite. Why God created people people like this if he only created them male and female? Who this people should marry according to your religion, and why??

 

[Will E Worm]

That seems to be very rational, believe in something you can't even explain.
And I was being sarcastic with my devil comment...everytime a religious person is confronted with something they can't answer, it must be devil "attacking." A devil that after all, was their God's creation.

No one has the explanation for everything.

Ever heard of accepted "science?"

True science is provable, not "accepted" without proof.

Lucifer rebelled against God and is now called Satan.

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

They shouldn't be that way in the first place.
There was one garden in the Bible and it had a male and a female.

God condones a brother to sleep with his sister to continue procreation, no wonder we have such a mess-up world if we all come from incest. I guess that sick story is what gives some Christians the motivation to sleep with their brothers and sisters or their dads/moms. It's interesting how the religious want to act like they are morally superior to other people, and condemn others such as with gays, yet believe all this sickening things.

 

[BlueBalls]

No one has the explanation for everything.

Ever heard of accepted "science?"

True science is provable, not "accepted" without proof.

And what "science" is that claim based upon?

Tell me it's Evolution, please. The evidence is there, you just choose not to see it.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

No one has the explanation for everything.

Ever heard of accepted "science?"

True science is provable, not "accepted" without proof.

Lucifer rebelled against God and is now called Satan.

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

According to your own religion, God is not an innocent victim here. He's "alknowing," omnipotent and omniscient, therefore created Lucifer who he knew was going to rebel and become Satan. Nice plan.:thefinger

 

[Will E Worm]

And what "science" is that claim based upon?

Tell me it's Evolution, please. The evidence is there, you just choose not to see it.

You just choose not to see the evidence for God.

According to your own religion, God is not an innocent victim here. He's "alknowing," omnipotent and omniscient, therefore created Lucifer who he knew was going to rebel and become Satan. Nice plan.:thefinger

:nono: You have been blinded by your own mocking.

 

[BlueBalls]

You just choose not to see the evidence for God

That's it, dodge the question. But I have to ask, where did I mention "god" in my previous post? All I wanted you to to was clarify what particular part of science you were talking about when you made the comment above. And that if you were in fact talking about evolution then you were making a conscious decision not to see the evidence from various different sources that backs it up.

 

[Cpt.Obvious]

:nono:

OK OK OK - the vegetable gourds and hands will have to do.


By the way wasn't Lilith Adam's first wife - she wasn't human, she was a demon spirit.

that's just weird, - explains the hole goth chicks and cemetery thing though.

 

[Cpt.Obvious]

You just choose not to see the evidence for God.

do you seriously believe a few stories written by an ancient Israelite Rush Limbaugh is any sort of proof of an omnipotent divinity?

:nono: You have been blinded by your own mocking.

:nono: he has a point - God created Evil.

 

[Will E Worm]

By the way wasn't Lilith Adam's first wife - she wasn't human, she was a demon spirit.

that's just weird, - explains the hole goth chicks and cemetery thing though.

Oh, brother. Lilith? Just no.

:nono: he has a point - God created Evil.

No, God didn't create evil. People he created rebelled and cause evil.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Oh, brother. Lilith? Just no.



No, God didn't create evil. People he created rebelled and cause evil.

The point is..didn't she created Lucifer knowing she was going to rebel. If not so, how can you claim she forsees the future and knows everything, therefore omnipotent and omniscient?

Also, why bother creating people that you already know are going to be doomed for everlasting pain and suferring in hell because of their choices? That's evil, indeed.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Why do we address both God and Satan as males, when they have no sex????
That's giving way too much power to the male sex.

 

[BlueBalls]

The point is..didn't she created Lucifer knowing she was going to rebel. If not so, how can you claim she forsees the future and knows everything, therefore omnipotent and omniscient?

Also, why bother creating people that you already know are going to be doomed for everlasting pain and suferring in hell because of their choices? That's evil, indeed.

The answer to that I'm almost sure will be that god gave us "free will".

But there in lies the logical fallacy. If god, as you say is omnipotent and omniscient and everything we do is just adherence "gods grand plan" then how can we have free will? :dunno:

Will, over to you . . . :hatsoff:

 

[Cpt.Obvious]

<< Genesis 3:22 >>
http://bible.cc/genesis/3-22.htm
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:
<< Genesis 1:26 >>
http://bible.cc/genesis/1-26.htm
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.

Not only does it sound like God created Evil, that God put it in us and made us evil because God is a little bit evil.

My point in all of this is - Hey it's your fairy tail - what ever floats your boat.
But at some point it's going to collide with real life.
Yes I do believe in some form of great mind and being - but I seriously doubt some allegorical fables have even a smidgeon on insight into Human biology - otherwise why is there so many holier than thou Christians on a Pornography Message Board.
I've studied and practiced a few religions and my experience tells me that devotion to faith is no different than Fan worship of a singer or actor.
and if its such a big deal that gay people should want to be ministers, then there are other religions - Pagan Buddhist Hindu - Scientology ....

 

[Will E Worm]

The point is..didn't she created Lucifer knowing she was going to rebel. If not so, how can you claim she forsees the future and knows everything, therefore omnipotent and omniscient?

Also, why bother creating people that you already know are going to be doomed for everlasting pain and suferring in hell because of their choices? That's evil, indeed.

Oh, no "she."

It's obvious you have never read the Bible.

We will never see eye to eye on this.

Just bow out gracefully.

 

[mrtrebus]

Oh, no "she."

It's obvious you have never read the Bible.

We will never see eye to eye on this.

Just bow out gracefully.

God is a man?

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Oh, no "she."

It's obvious you have never read the Bible.

We will never see eye to eye on this.

Just bow out gracefully.

All you are doing is dodging, not even bothering to give an explanation to the questions asked. Maybe if you were able to explain, more people would undertand. But it seems like you don't undertand yourself.

I'm also very curious, if you are such a Christian, why are you in porn message board talking about porn. A porn industry that promotes fornication in every sense, sex merely for pleasure, adultery, and overwhelmingly portrays "unnatural/unreproductive" sex acts like blowjobs and anal penetration?

 

[TrueTranssexual]

God is a man?

At least his dick is the size he wants it to be. Aren't you jealous?
We should be glad Satan is not addressed as a she, however, even though we know Satan has no dick and balls, hence no sex. I don't think religious misogeny could get any worse than that.
Adressing "all powerful" God as a male should be sufficient for that purpose.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

Pork was a law given to Jews, not Gentiles.
Jews can now eat pork if they want.

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So you can pick and choose which of the Old Testament commands that you want to adhere to?