Kobe Bryant catching flak for his appereance in the Call of Duty: Black Ops Ad

Per the previous article:

You're right, being unprecedented made no difference whatsoever. However, the judge violated both precedence, AND legal grounds. He gave no medical justification of his interpretation, which by law, he had to. Which begets this little gem:

Perhaps that is because said bylaws were enacted ex post facto:


Clearly, that had no bearing on the case, as it wasn't enacted until almost two full years later.

I never said it was a prima facie case. I simply said the trial was a joke, by virtue of the fact that both the legal and de facto laws were both flippantly violated. The judge claimed to be protecting Bryant's right to an impartial trial by inherently violating the state law that guarantees the accuser the exact same right by way of anonymity. It also doesn't bode well for Bryant that he settled, which typically hasn't been the mark of an innocent party. Hell, her vagina was bleeding, and the defense was that it was "consistent with having multiple partners". The defense didn't even bother dismissing it as a clear-cut sign of the actus reus, , but I digress.

:confused::confused::confused::confused: I suppose I will give you an 'A' for presentation and sounding credible.

What 'article' are you talking about and where from is this statement;

In 2005, the Colorado Rape Shield Laws were amended to include provisions which allowed judicial authority to reveal nearly any information with respect to either accuser or defendant, deemed germane by a presiding Judge, based on an expanded criteria.

The link you provided is only one page of apparently several and bears zero reference to any statement you've quoted.

The link I provided suggests it was was update 5/1/2003. Where did you find the exceptions were ex post facto 'bylaws' (which they are 'exceptions' not 'bylaws' as that word is consistent with local or municipal ordinances) and were amended in 2005?

And OF COURSE evidence of her having sex with as many as 2 OTHER people within a 15 hour window of her 'encounter' with Kobe is relevant to evidence of her 'bleeding' ..Which from what I read wasn't 'bleeding' per se but blood consistent with minor or microscopic tearing which can happen during consensual sex. But who is responsible for the tearing if there is evidence she's had sex with 3 men in less than a day or so???? That's not evidence for a jury to consider??? It most definitely would be an explanation for trace amounts of blood and tearing being present.

BTW, here's the complete text referencing what you were trying to in your post....

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/jlsp/pdf/Spring2%202006/Haddad10.pdf

Notable gems; Another man's semen found 'on' the 'victim' and in her panties upon examination but none on the defendant. Conclusion by the expert examiner; She had sex with with another guy after Kobe but before her examination. Further, one of the defense witnesses claiming to have had sex with her between that time and 72 hrs prior wasn't the source of the semen...that's 3 (and counting?).

There are many articles about this case and it's rulings rare among them is one that supports what you say.

It is rare that an exception to the rape shield law is made to allow such evidence to come before a jury. But this ruling came after nine days of fact-finding hearings by the judge, during which the accuser did testify.

Observers believe it will not be an easy ruling to overturn on appeal, if prosecutors decide to pursue it.

Others believe a relatively weak prosecution case became a lot weaker as a result of the judge's ruling, and expect some moves to be made toward a plea-bargaining deal. In fact Judge Ruckriegle ended his eight-page ruling by extending the "plea negotiation deadline" in the case.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/kobe040723.htm

Last week, Kobe Bryant's lawyer, Pamela Mackey, ignited a firestorm of controversy at her client's preliminary hearing when, during cross-examination of Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters, she asked whether vaginal injuries found on the alleged victim could have been caused by prior sexual activity with two other men in the days immediately before the alleged assault by Bryant.

Pundits throughout the country condemned Mackey for asking this question. Yet, the question was perfectly appropriate, clearly ethical and did not in any way violate Colorado's Rape Shield Statute.
http://www.rechtkornfeld.com/article_rapeshield.html

You say laws were subsequently weakened in Colorado to allow for the judge's alleged impropriety....this says the laws were strengthened..

Two states have expanded protections for rape victims in the wake of the high-profile criminal case against Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant in a continuing effort by states to guard accusers' identities and increase chances for successful prosecutions.

Legislators in Colorado and California this year passed laws to conceal accusers' identities from the public in sexual assault cases after Bryant's arrest brought intense pressure to learn more about his accuser.
http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=15805

Finally, a high profile, wealthy individual settling a case out of court may suggest guilt to you but that is a pretty simple, naive perspective.

How does it make sense for a multimillionaire with a tight schedule like that of an NBA player to spend more time and money on top of the year or so he's already spent to pursue vindication in a civil court when the court of public opinion has already spoken one way or the other?

It makes ZERO practical sense for him to have continued to drag it out at the cost of much more money than he likely settled for, continuing to drag his wife and family through it as well as his team.

Only a dummy wouldn't settle in that case IMO.
 

girk1

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And despite the flimsy evidence the guy is still suffering from the fallout of the accusation as he is one of the most polarizing sports figures.
Just imagine had this gone to trial & CNN & other 24 hour news media kept running her claims/testimony on a 24 hour news loop? The guy would barely have recovered his reputation.

Despite the defendants CRUSTY 3 semen infested panties :eeew:(I'd still hit it as her sluttiness is kind of sexy:dunno:)& her allegedly boasting about the encounter people still won't let this go. Despite the CRUSTY 3 semen infested panties many people would have began to sympathize with this 'poor' 19 year old girl who is being attacked by this rich athlete & his Pit Bull lawyer team(Kobe probably hired a woman lawyer probably to deflect the blow & claims of sexism/bullying by male lawyer).

His best option was to pay the damn money & move the hell on.

Businessess like Wal Mart pay out millions to idiots who lie down on their wet floor & claim they are injured every year. Sometimes it's just best to pay out(if it's not an exorbitant amount) , move on & avoid the bad publicity. It in no way is admitting guilt.
 
I really don't like people sometimes.
 
^^^

And despite the flimsy evidence the guy is still suffering from the fallout of the accusation as he is one of the most polarizing sports figures.
Just imagine had this gone to trial & CNN & other 24 hour news media kept running her claims/testimony on a 24 hour news loop? The guy would barely have recovered his reputation.

Despite the defendants CRUSTY 3 semen infested panties :eeew:(I'd still hit it as her sluttiness is kind of sexy:dunno:)& her allegedly boasting about the encounter people still won't let this go. Despite the CRUSTY 3 semen infested panties many people would have began to sympathize with this 'poor' 19 year old girl who is being attacked by this rich athlete & his Pit Bull lawyer team(Kobe probably hired a woman lawyer probably to deflect the blow & claims of sexism/bullying by male lawyer).

His best option was to pay the damn money & move the hell on.

Businessess like Wal Mart pay out millions to idiots who lie down on their wet floor & claim they are injured every year. Sometimes it's just best to pay out(if it's not an exorbitant amount) , move on & avoid the bad publicity. It in no way is admitting guilt.

Yeah..but Kobe was guilty because he settled, the case was a sham because her ID was mistakenly disclosed and a judge made unprecedented but credible rulings on rape shield exceptions.:rolleyes:

There is no evidence beyond her saying so to suggest it wasn't as consensual as the sex she'd just had in the hours before and after Kobe.

In fact most of the circumstantial evidence suggests it was anything but rape and probably wouldn't have be brought but for the defendant's name being Kobe Bean Bryant.

She makes her way to his room, somehow manages to get raped by one of the highest profile athletes if not people around but doesn't raise any hell about it until several hours later (presumably when the next stud up to bat discovers he's in sloppy seconds or more). Yeah right. :1orglaugh

Kobe fucked up, it cost allot of money and it's now (to my chagrin as I'm no Laker fan) 2 or 3 NBA titles behind him.:dunno:
 

girk1

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Yeah..but Kobe was guilty because he settled, the case was a sham because her ID was mistakenly disclosed and a judge made unprecedented but credible rulings on rape shield exceptions.:rolleyes:

There is no evidence beyond her saying so to suggest it wasn't as consensual as the sex she'd just had in the hours before and after Kobe.

In fact most of the circumstantial evidence suggests it was anything but rape and probably wouldn't have be brought but for the defendant's name being Kobe Bean Bryant.

She makes her way to his room, somehow manages to get raped by one of the highest profile athletes if not people around but doesn't raise any hell about it until several hours later (presumably when the next stud up to bat discovers he's in sloppy seconds or more). Yeah right. :1orglaugh

Kobe fucked up, it cost allot of money and it's now (to my chagrin as I'm no Laker fan) 2 or 3 NBA titles behind him.:dunno:

Kobe's accuser could have opened a cuckold site charging people to see this poor sap lick her vag & panties clean after being with the big black buck athlete she 'allegedly' bragged about afterwards. :eek: Don't people pay good money to see that shit.:dunno:



I Think the DA in Colorado didn't want to look as if though he was being 'soft' on a rich athlete since he is an elected official. He could not have believed that bullshit yet he seems to be willing to ruin a man's life PROBABLY because of politics. I could see him not charging Kobe being used against him in future political races.

Did you see the GA DA come out with strong words of condemnation against Rothelisberger after he decided not to charge him? He didn't want to look weak against such a heinous ,but unsubstantiated allegation.

P.S I will not hold it against you that you are not a fan of the greatest organization in pro Basketball History(Lakers). Actually you have my sympathy. Back to Back to Back? To be continued.........:elaugh:
 
P.S I will not hold it against you that you are not a fan of the greatest organization in pro Basketball History(Lakers). Actually you have my sympathy. Back to Back to Back? To be continued.........:elaugh:

Well, if it's any consolation to you it's not that I don't appreciate 'your girl', I'm just committed to mine and like her better.:2 cents:
 
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