John Stewart on the GOP's "Pledge To America"

[Hot Mega]

oh yes. You know what I'm waiting for?: For the first battle of words between president Obama and Palin. If Palin does not collapse within ten minutes - which i would predict ("It's all about job creation." PANIC!!!) - Obama is gonna crush her - metaphorically - like a walnut...

If GOPers are dumb enough to prop this bird up as their standard bearer in '12...she will at least have a well prepared script of attacks.

She may resemble a preprogrammed robot but I don't think she'll stumble much.

The sad thing is that Americans well, the ones that will make a difference..the wishy washy indies are actually going to give this Koo-koo the time of day.

 

[vodkazvictim]

If you listen to music other than country or rock then you have heard a song that he at least wrote or produced.

Is he any good?
There is this place on the interwebs called youtubers for that.

I never listen to country or rock, I listen to plenty of music types. Mostly trance, hardhouse and classical.

 

[afterlights]

Clinton had it easy.

Is that criticism or nostalgia?

 

[316sherm]

Palin 2010: Playboy...
:rubbel:

 

[CunningStunts]

Contract with America...Promise to America...same bullshit as usual brought to you by generic, irrational and insane Conservatives who have purged the GOP from genuine and sane and rational Conservatives

You do realize that "bullshit" Contract with America, architected by Newt Gingrich, set the foundation for almost all of the successes claimed by Dems during the Clinton years?

Jesus, it amazes me how people react and cling to ideals rather than examine facts and use their brains to THINK.

 

[Trident1]

Is that criticism or nostalgia?

Take a guess.:tongue:

 

[emceeemcee]

The fact remains there was no War on Islamic terrorism,

Again, it was because he wasn't dumb enough to start one.

no 9/11 event, no Iraq or Afghan war to cause things to be unstable.

Clinton had it easy.

Bosnia? Kosovo? Somalia? Iraq?


The instability argument is irrelevant. The point is, the actions taken post 9/11 were purely optional and the most retarded ones were chosen. It's rediculous to pretend as if Georgie Boy's hand was forced.

 

[pool_hustler]

The instability argument is irrelevant. The point is, the actions taken post 9/11 were purely optional and the most retarded ones were chosen. It's rediculous to pretend as if Georgie Boy's hand was forced.

But...but, we were in imminent danger remember?

Saddam was working night and day on a warheard capable of delivering stale baklava!

 

[roronoa3000]

Saddam was planning to blow up Americas moon!


....?

 

[HELLRAISER]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4zekfQGp34



Fact Checking The GOP Pledge - Many of the claims just don't add up

http://factcheck.org/2010/09/factchecking-the-pledge/

Former Reagan Adviser On GOP'S Pledge To America: there would be no money for national parks, roads education, infrastructure spending, homeland security, medicare, medicaid and it won't save all that much.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130126335

GOP 'pledge' would end Social Security: Nation's most successful safety net threatened by Republican plan.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/155001/gops-pledge-america-would-end-privatizing-social-security

 

[HELLRAISER]

Here's a response to the GOPs Lemon Pledge to America from the Libertarian Party's website:

http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/libertarians-say-republicans-owe-apology-not-pledge-to-america

WASHINGTON - In response to the recent Republican "Pledge to America," Libertarian Party executive director Wes Benedict released the following statement:

Instead of a "Pledge to America," the Republicans should have written an "Apology to America." It should have gone something like this:

"We're sorry, America. Sorry we grew the federal government budget from $1.7 trillion to over $3 trillion. Sorry we added $5 trillion to the federal debt. Sorry we doubled the size of the Department of Education. Sorry we started two incredibly costly foreign wars. Sorry we supported the absurd and costly TARP bailouts. Sorry we created a huge and costly new Medicare entitlement. Sorry we did nothing to end the costly and destructive War on Drugs. Sorry we did nothing to reform the federal government's near-prohibition on immigration. But hey, at least we helped you by shifting a lot of your tax burden onto your children and grandchildren."

 

[pete rose]

Stop getting mad, people. We can all laugh together because it's fucking hilarious, regardless if it was a conservative or a liberal.

 

[Jagger69]

You do realize that "bullshit" Contract with America, architected by Newt Gingrich, set the foundation for almost all of the successes claimed by Dems during the Clinton years?

Jesus, it amazes me how people react and cling to ideals rather than examine facts and use their brains to THINK.

Instead of glittering generalities how about some hard facts? Help me use my brain here CS.

 

[feller469]

Newt may have been the smartest one of the bunch, he got out of running for office and is now just a sideline barker. Making money, causing headaches and not having to worry about his personal life becoming campaign fodder.

Damn, I am really beginning to hate all the politicians in this country

 

[Trident1]

Again, it was because he wasn't dumb enough to start one.



Bosnia? Kosovo? Somalia? Iraq?


The instability argument is irrelevant. The point is, the actions taken post 9/11 were purely optional and the most retarded ones were chosen. It's rediculous to pretend as if Georgie Boy's hand was forced.

"Dumb enough to start one"?

The Islamists started the war.

Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia were unnecessary adventures driven by the likes of CNN. Pictures on TV drove policy in the 1990s.

Bush had it much more difficult than Clinton. We were attacked in a manner not seen since December 7th 1941. Clinton did not have to deal with this nightmare.




"Actions taken after 9/11 were optional"?

WTF are you on anyhow?



Not one President would've chosen your route which is to do nothing. My God are you that dense and biased against this country?



Debating with you is like talking pig latin to a donkey.

 

[pete rose]

The Islamists started the war.

That was SkyNet, dude.

 

[Hot Mega]

You do realize that "bullshit" Contract with America, architected by Newt Gingrich, set the foundation for almost all of the successes claimed by Dems during the Clinton years?

Jesus, it amazes me how people react and cling to ideals rather than examine facts and use their brains to THINK.

Instead of glittering generalities how about some hard facts? Help me use my brain here CS.

Yeah....like "term limits"?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Allegedly most of that bluster was either changed, failed or dropped altogether. The "contract" only promised to bring the bluster to a vote...not actually pass anything.

Duped again C/S.:crying:

You see...you ALWAYS have to read the fine print with GOPers and listen to exactly what they say...not how they sound.

Consider: Over the past three years the Republican-controlled Congress has approved discretionary spending that exceeded Bill Clinton's requests by more than $30 billion. The party that in 1994 would abolish the Department of Education now brags in response to Clinton's 2000 State of the Union Address that it is outspending the White House when it comes to education. My colleagues Stephen Moore and Stephen Slivinski found that the combined budgets of the 95 major programs that the Contract with America promised to eliminate have increased by 13%.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4463

 

[emceeemcee]

"Dumb enough to start one"?

The Islamists started the war.

Maybe in your selective view of history. For those who like to read beyond a fox news level, the US involved itself in a cycle of violence with the Muslim world well beyond 9/11.

btw what did Iraq have to do with 9/11?

Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia were unnecessary adventures driven by the likes of CNN. Pictures on TV drove policy in the 1990s.

Serbs ethnically cleansing Bosniaks and Kosova Albanians and Somalian warloads genociding their people wasn't worth stopping but a bunch of lies about Iraq presenting an imminant nuclear threat and a quagmire in Afghanistan were worth pouring billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives into.

Righhhhhtt.....

"Actions taken after 9/11 were optional"?

Oh god. Somebody is still living in 2003.

Tell me trident, are you still convinced Saddam has WMD's and is ready to launch at any second?

Not one President would've chosen your route which is to do nothing.?

People who advocated a law enforcement/intelligence community response to 9/11 coupled with a rethink about western engagement in the M.E have pretty much been vindicated.

You could always prove that sentiment wrong by listing all the great things America and it's allies have achieved from going to war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Algeria. All I see is decades worth of debt, piles of corpses and more pissed off Muslims than before these wars were embarked upon.

 

[Trident1]

btw what did Iraq have to do with 9/11?









Tell me trident, are you still convinced Saddam has WMD's and is ready to launch at any second?



People who advocated a law enforcement/intelligence community response to 9/11 coupled with a rethink about western engagement in the M.E have pretty much been vindicated.

You could always prove that sentiment wrong by listing all the great things America and it's allies have achieved from going to war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Algeria. All I see is decades worth of debt, piles of corpses and more pissed off Muslims than before these wars were embarked upon.

I'm talking about Afghanistan, the Philippines, Yemen, Mali, Mauritania, Pakistan etc where we finally took the offensive against Islamists after their attack on 9/11.
You'd have us do squat. You'd have us apologize to Islamists just for existing. They despised us long before 9/11 and will do so long after but that's the nature of war, get used to it.
Thank God you're not in the position of dictating foreign policy.:bowdown:

 

[CunningStunts]

Yeah....like "term limits"?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Allegedly most of that bluster was either changed, failed or dropped altogether. The "contract" only promised to bring the bluster to a vote...not actually pass anything.

Duped again C/S.:crying:

You see...you ALWAYS have to read the fine print with GOPers and listen to exactly what they say...not how they sound.



http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4463

In 94, the GOP did actually have some novel ideas like a balanced budget, welfare reform, etc. Clinton to his credit seized on the political winds and enacted most of them, and he gets credit for them, which is fine. So instead of focusing on politics, look at the facts and tell me how these items are a bad thing? Explain how spending money we don't have and growing a Federal government that's already full of waste, incompetence and corruption is a more appealing option? :dunno: