It's The Wages, Stupid

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Jagger69

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Well then with all due respect jagger, fuck you, Because that is addressed to me and it IS Mariah and I wish for no such thing.

A poster with only 33 posts and joined the board only last month wouldn't have enough knowledge of my posting history and my views even if they had been a longtime lurker to single me out in just about every post they make.

And not to mention that a moderator got banned at Mariah's behest for verifying that JWG and Mariah were the same poster.

Dropping F-bombs on me now are we, Blue C? Classy!

I have no interest in this obsessive thing that you seem to have with Mariah or whoever the hell this new member is supposed to be. That's your war....don't bring me into it. Likewise, I guess I must have missed the part where it says that this thread belongs to you so I commented on a post that was made. Under the rules of the forum, I am allowed to to do that. I would suggest that you take it private if you don't want others making comments on posts that you somehow consider to be proprietory. If you don't like that then, with all due respect right back to you sir, I suggest you report my post to a moderator. Have a nice weekend.
 
Dropping F-bombs on me now are we, Blue C? Classy!

I have no interest in this obsessive thing that you seem to have with Mariah or whoever the hell this new member is supposed to be. That's your war....don't bring me into it. Likewise, I guess I must have missed the part where it says that this thread belongs to you so I commented on a post that was made. Under the rules of the forum, I am allowed to to do that. I would suggest that you take it private if you don't want others making comments on posts that you somehow consider to be proprietory. If you don't like that then, with all due respect right back to you sir, I suggest you report my post to a moderator. Have a nice weekend.

The only obsession I have is, with a poster that has supposedly left this board but comes back under a different incarnation (and it has been confirmed) to take pot shots at me. The same poster that we understand caused you to take a leave of absence from this board because you didn't like the tone it had taken because of their presence. I'm not taking pot shots at her, maybe you need to to familiarize yourself with the the definition of obsession. But hey! Thanks for the cheap shot.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
The only obsession I have is, with a poster that has supposedly left this board but comes back under a different incarnation (and it has been confirmed) to take pot shots at me. The same poster that we understand caused you to take a leave of absence from this board because you didn't like the tone it had taken because of their presence. I'm not taking pot shots at her, maybe you need to to familiarize yourself with the the definition of obsession. But hey! Thanks for the cheap shot.

See your private message folder.
 

georges

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He wants to start over with a "clean slate" a clean slate of what exactly? Puritanical white power rich folks who run the US like an African nation perhaps? "We fortunate ones at the top watch down upon you little people with speculation and judgment and squash you when you forget your place"

Obama has proven his incompetence since 2008. Sharing the equal distribution of misery, this is so typical, so fucking socialist, that it has absolutely nothing to do in America. See the losers mentality, they say let's be lazy and live of food coupons, leech off healthcare and social free security paid by the others hardworking and law abiding citizens and people who think like this are always living in the ghetto/shitty neighborhoods and dreaming of easy money without working or putting a single effort. One's wealth or money is not yours. You have to bust your ass off to earn a good salary and stop blaming everything because of the rich's fault. I kinda miss the times when the witch hunt against any form of socialism/communism was present.
 
Idiots like mongo and MariahLovesJesus want to do away with a system that works for 85 percent of the people to appease 15 percent. If they and their party possessed one scintilla of grey matter they would tackle the problem addressing those 15 percenters (which is possible) without wrecking what works for the majority. But that is the mentality of socialist/marxists.
 
Idiots like mongo and MariahLovesJesus want to do away with a system that works for 85 percent of the people to appease 15 percent. If they and their party possessed one scintilla of grey matter they would tackle the problem addressing those 15 percenters (which is possible) without wrecking what works for the majority. But that is the mentality of socialist/marxists.

Wow, I get a mention without even being in the thread. You're as stupid as you are a coward. Oh, 45 million Americans are living in poverty? Well, I'm not one of them, so why should we try to change anything? You're a fuck up, plain and simple.
If you had a clue how an economy is supposed to work (and we all know that no republican does) you would know that it is driven by the working class, not the upper class. If you give breaks to the working class they spend more money (clue: spending more money GROWS the economy - growing economy = GOOD). If you give breaks to the richest part of the population and nothing to the middle and lower class they do nothing with it that creates jobs, because why expand your business when demand isn't changing?
If we raise minimum wage, everybody has more money to spend, people who have full time jobs don't need to supplement with food stamps just to hit the poverty level, demand for goods and services increases, and the rich people that republicans are looking out for have a reason to expand their operations, hire more people, which leads to more people with more money and that's how a fucking economy works.
My nephew in Australia is 16 and makes 16 dollars an hour working at Mcdonalds. My sister is a barista and makes over 20 dollars an hour. But there's no way such a system could possibly work, because republicans said so.
 
Wow, I get a mention without even being in the thread. You're as stupid as you are a coward. Oh, 45 million Americans are living in poverty? Well, I'm not one of them, so why should we try to change anything? You're a fuck up, plain and simple.

Is that the only response you can come up.. you're stupid, you're a coward. Sounds like you need to forget the thesis and take a remedial course in English and enhance that lexicon.

Look oh wise one there will always be poverty this war has been waged ever since I was an infant and The Great Society. It hasn't put a dent in it and another thing Einstein Democrats were in control of congressional purse strings consistently until 1994 and off and on since then. Your failed ideas aren't working.




If you had a clue how an economy is supposed to work (and we all know that no republican does) you would know that it is driven by the working class, not the upper class. If you give breaks to the working class they spend more money (clue: spending more money GROWS the economy - growing economy = GOOD). If you give breaks to the richest part of the population and nothing to the middle and lower class they do nothing with it that creates jobs, because why expand your business when demand isn't changing?
If we raise minimum wage, everybody has more money to spend, people who have full time jobs don't need to supplement with food stamps just to hit the poverty level, demand for goods and services increases, and the rich people that republicans are looking out for have a reason to expand their operations, hire more people, which leads to more people with more money and that's how a fucking economy works.

Speaking of someone that is clueless about economics. Government spending does not grow the economy. The private sector grows the economy and when asshats like you get the fuck out of the way and let entrepreneurs do what they do best (take risks, and pursue rugged individualism) capitalism works. Not top down government hand outs and wealth redistribution like you espouse. *yawn*

The middle class get plenty of breaks especially tax breaks, from the bevy of credits for children, mortgages and investments.

Raising the minimum wage doesn't accomplish anything but resulting in businesses to offset those increases through higher prices which in turn decreases the demand or in a worse case scenario cause work forces to be cut. Business never pays for increases, we do, oh master of economics.


My nephew in Australia is 16 and makes 16 dollars an hour working at Mcdonalds.




So how exactly do McDonald's and other chains manage to turn a profit abroad while paying an hourly wage their American workers can only fantasize about while picketing? Part of the answer, as you might expect, boils down to higher prices. Academic estimates have suggested that, worldwide, worker pay accounts for at least 45 percent of a Big Mac's cost. In the United States, industry analysts tend to peg the figure a bit lower -- labor might make up anywhere from about a quarter of all expenses at your average franchise to about a third.* But generally speaking, in countries where pay is higher, so is the cost of two all beef patties, as shown in the chart below by Princeton economist Orley Ashenfelter. Note Western Europe way up there in the upper-right hand corner, with its high McWages and high Big Mac prices.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...donalds-pays-15-an-hour-its-australia/278313/


My sister is a barista
:rofl2: How did I not know you and your family were part of the Starbucks crowd.

and makes over 20 dollars an hour. But there's no way such a system could possibly work, because republicans said so.

No dumbfuck. Economics says so.


There are a lot smarter liberal and Democrat posters on this board than you and they can actually make their points without fabrication, talking points and starting every response with insults because they actually have a vocabulary that conveys some sort of cognizant skills.

Get your thesis done son. And your sheepskin and take it back to Australia. You are not needed or wanted here by the vast majority of Americans.

And I am wasting my time even addressing a low information mouth breathing drone such as yourself.
 
So, basically your response is, "nuh-uh"? Because that's pretty much all you've said. The private sector doesn't grow shit if the middle class is starving. Businesses don't grow if nobody is buying their shit, but you're too stupid to get any of this.

And before you go around claiming to know what economics "says" about anything and making yourself look even stupider than you are, consider that either you are right, or the laws of economics don't apply in any of the many countries with a higher standard of living than the USA. I wonder which is more likely??? But those places all have universal health care too, which we know doesn't work. Shit man, you better go to all these countries that are doing better than the USA and tell them they've got their shit all wrong and they need to straighten up, because their solid economies and quality, affordable healthcare are not possible!

Don't you get sick of being wrong about everything? All this stupidity about higher wages killing jobs and sending employers overseas is total bullshit.

And don't think that you represent the vast majority of anything, let alone Americans. You're not worth a pinch of shit, all you represent is the absolute worst and most shameful side of American culture.
 
So, basically your response is, "nuh-uh"? Because that's pretty much all you've said. The private sector doesn't grow shit if the middle class is starving. Businesses don't grow if nobody is buying their shit, but you're too stupid to get any of this.

And before you go around claiming to know what economics "says" about anything and making yourself look even stupider than you are, consider that either you are right, or the laws of economics don't apply in any of the many countries with a higher standard of living than the USA. I wonder which is more likely??? But those places all have universal health care too, which we know doesn't work. Shit man, you better go to all these countries that are doing better than the USA and tell them they've got their shit all wrong and they need to straighten up, because their solid economies and quality, affordable healthcare are not possible!

Don't you get sick of being wrong about everything? All this stupidity about higher wages killing jobs and sending employers overseas is total bullshit.

And don't think that you represent the vast majority of anything, let alone Americans. You're not worth a pinch of shit, all you represent is the absolute worst and most shameful side of American culture.

No I just destroyed your whole premise of higher mandated minimum wage being good for the economy and I used a liberal publication to do it.

You are not worthy of any serious debate. just contempt and pity.

But I will gladly continue to school you since you seem so eager for punishment and maybe you will lean something in the process. if we can ever through that brain devoid of cell and that thick neanderthal skull of yours.

God knows, you aren't learning anything at that community college you are attending, if in fact you are. Your postings don't indicate anything beyond a 9th grade education.
 
Ah, I see. Those are some solid points you make there, well thought out and cleverly articulated. Clearly your knowledge of economics is far superior to mine. Well played, intellectual giant.
 
Ah, I see. Those are some solid points you make there, well thought out and cleverly articulated. Clearly your knowledge of economics is far superior to mine. Well played, intellectual giant.

Nope I am not an economist. But compared to you I'm Irving Fisher.
 
Meh, once you start shitting in your hands and throwing it this stops being fun and starts being pathetic to the point that I almost feel sorry for you. How about you try and drink yourself into an unrecoverable coma tonight? It'll be the best thing you've ever contributed to the human race!
 
Nope I am not an economist. But compared to you I'm Irving Fisher.

You seem more like Irving Berlin to me, but what do I know?


Oh, damn. I've just had a playful exchange with another member. I guess STDiva had better get in here and shit on this thread now, telling us that we're screwing things up by being familiar with each other. Now, the only way that I can further fuck things up is by posting a gif, I guess.

 
You seem more like Irving Berlin to me, but what do I know?


Oh, damn. I've just had a playful exchange with another member. I guess STDiva had better get in here and shit on this thread now, telling us that we're screwing things up by being familiar with each other. Now, the only way that I can further fuck things up is by posting a gif, I guess.


I miss Diva
 

Philbert

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My nephew in Australia is 16 and makes 16 dollars an hour working at Mcdonalds. My sister is a barista and makes over 20 dollars an hour.

Really? Isn't a barista like a waiter? And she only make $20 an hour? Must be a shitty waitress, really ugly, and probably both.
As for your "nephew", that's either a completely fictitious person, or you're a lying sack 'o' shit...I go for the latter choice.

In Australia the minimum wage is $16 per, with one for sure exemption in the Labour Law allowing Fast food establishments to pay 16 year olds a wage...here it comes...of $7.97 per hour. Coincidently the same as the American MW, more or less.
And here comes automation to reduce not only higher wage older workers, but to reduce the hours worked by same Older Workers.
I've seen some order machines in a few fast food places here to try them out, I guess.
Boy...can you embarrass yourself some more? :facepalm:

BC has been posting a long time, and he actually is interesting to read...and you are so obviously a non-braniac it's embarrassing for Australia.

I'll bet MariahIsGay loves your posts...:rofl2:
 
georges, corporate profit is at an all time high under Obama. The stock market breaks it's own record nearly every day. As far as him being a socialist and anti business you clearly know nothing of what you say. Sure he got majority of the black vote, because he's black. Why wouldn't the blacks vote for him? What have white people done for the blacks? Obama has been far more favorable for corporations than he has the poor and the ghetto people as you call them. And how's that different than white's getting a majority of the white vote? Brown skinned people are growing at a rate of 2 to 1 in the US and in 15 years whites will be the minority. They will still own all of the wealth, but they will be out numbered.
 

georges

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georges, corporate profit is at an all time high under Obama. The stock market breaks it's own record nearly every day. As far as him being a socialist and anti business you clearly know nothing of what you say. Sure he got majority of the black vote, because he's black. Why wouldn't the blacks vote for him? What have white people done for the blacks? Obama has been far more favorable for corporations than he has the poor and the ghetto people as you call them. And how's that different than white's getting a majority of the white vote? Brown skinned people are growing at a rate of 2 to 1 in the US and in 15 years whites will be the minority. They will still own all of the wealth, but they will be out numbered.
Just look at who made of a superpower of the USA during the previous decades. I am sure that one day or another, there will be unavoidably a civil war opposing whites and blacks in the US. Also, you have certainly heard about the speculative stock market bubble, the values of the stock market skyrocket and after that there is a financial Krach, if you don't see that you need to take micro and macro economics courses. Remember what happened in 1929
 
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