Is Tony Soprano dead?

[meesterperfect]

Hi everybody.


SPOILERS HERE:

I just finished watching The Sopranos series in its entirety.
I had seen many random episodes back when it was a current series but never the whole thing and none of the last 2 seasons.

Now that last scene is bugging me.
Did he get whacked?
Any theories, explanation or proof of what happened after the scene cut to black?

And while were at it why did he **** Christopher?

 

[BlueBalls]

What is your interpretation of the last scene?

 

[PirateKing]

All will be explained in Sopranos: the movie

....in 3D

 

[Straight Shooter]

I don't know because it's a FUCKING TV show, it's not real.

 

[slamuwell]

if you watched it in its entirety, you would know that he did **** christopher - *spoiler* after the car crash.

as for the ending or non existing ending, i don't see any alternatives other than he got whacked.

 

[meesterperfect]

What is your interpretation of the last scene?

well they made it look like the guy at the bar was up to something, he was paying attention to tony but then again maybe thats just because he knew who he was.
also he went into the mens room which is exactly what michael corleone did before he blasted solozzo and mcclusky.

either the guy came out blasting or he didnt and they all lived happily ever after.
I just dont know

as far as ******* christopher, that was cold.
a new *** and all.
it seemed seeing the babyseat smashed up triggered him.
maybe that just demonstrates that he really was a sociopath or maybe he thought he was doing chris's ******** a favor.
and not long before he was thinking about stabbing paulie on the boat for no good reason too.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Yes, he was shot by the guy in the members only jacket, that was sitting at the bar, in the diner he, Carmella and AJ went into at the end of the last episode. The guy in the jacket, was related to Philly Leotardo, and was seen in previous episodes. In previous episodes Tony and Bobby Bukalla were seen discussing what happens when you die. Tony stated he thought it would be total silence, and blackness, and considering in the last episode, he looked up at the guy in the members only jacket, the scene went black, and there was no music playing as the credits rolled....something that every previous episode had, I would say yes, he's dead.

In regards to Christopher. In a previous episode, he expressed concern to Dr. Milfi about Chris being a junkie, that could flip on him, if he got pinched with junk. I think Tony saw an opportunity, and took it. He knew **** was hitting the fan, and he made a preemptive strike, at a weak link in the chain.

 

[meesterperfect]

Yes, he was shot by the guy in the members only jacket, that was sitting at the bar, in the diner he, Carmella and AJ went into at the end of the last episode. The guy in the jacket, was related to Philly Leotardo, and was seen in previous episodes. In previous episodes Tony and Bobby Bukalla were seen discussing what happens when you die. Tony stated he thought it would be total silence, and blackness, and considering in the last episode, he looked up at the guy in the members only jacket, the scene went black, and there was no music playing as the credits rolled....something that every previous episode had, I would say yes, he's dead.

good explanation.
if that guy was seen with the shaw of iran, phil, prior to that scene then i would say thats pretty strong proof.
but i'm not sure if he was, are you sure?
i didnt read that anywhere.

oh and i thought he looked up at meadow entering the diner right as the scene cut.

Dr Milfi? hahaha

the music stopping is also a good clue as is the conversation with bobby dried cod.

 

[BlueBalls]

The reason I ask what your interpretation of the scene is because that's exactly what you're supposed to do.

I remember reading an interview with the shows creator (I can't remember his name), and he stated that the reason they ended it in that way was because if they were to show the after effects of whatever happened after the scene cut to black, whether it be Tony getting shot to fuck or the whole ****** going home and living happily ever after it would be a huge anti-climax because who really wants to see Tony on the floor dead or dying or indeed the exact opposite. It gives the series a finality that the way the actually ended doesn't - it allows the viewer to make up their own mind as to what happened.

 

[Rey C.]

Yes, he was shot by the guy in the members only jacket, that was sitting at the bar, in the diner he, Carmella and AJ went into at the end of the last episode. The guy in the jacket, was related to Philly Leotardo, and was seen in previous episodes. In previous episodes Tony and Bobby Bukalla were seen discussing what happens when you die. Tony stated he thought it would be total silence, and blackness, and considering in the last episode, he looked up at the guy in the members only jacket, the scene went black, and there was no music playing as the credits rolled....something that every previous episode had, I would say yes, he's dead.

I've read similar takes on the ending. And I agree. I think he was ****** by one of the restaurant patrons. If not the guy in the jacket, then one of the other suspicious looking characters they ran through the scene to wind our senses up.

It took me several days to get over not getting the final big answer. At first, I was REALLY angry about the way they just left us hanging. But then, after I thought about it, that's probably the way the series should have ended. I guess I'd gotten used to being spoon fed story endings too. But there's nothing wrong with letting viewers use their imaginations... at least every once in awhile.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

have The Beatles split up?

 

[Deepcover]

I never liked that show to begin with.

 

[The Grasshopper]

Another take was Meadow was ****** by the dude in the jacket much like the bosses ******** played by Sofia Coppolo) in The Godfather 3. I can't remember where I read that or how they came to that conclusion but I found it interesting at the time and seemed logical.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

good explanation.
if that guy was seen with the shaw of iran, phil, prior to that scene then i would say thats pretty strong proof.
but i'm not sure if he was, are you sure?
i didnt read that anywhere.

oh and i thought he looked up at meadow entering the diner right as the scene cut.

Dr Milfi? hahaha

the music stopping is also a good clue as is the conversation with bobby dried cod.

Sure enough that I don't expect to ever see a movie, unless it's a prequel. He was looking up at the guy walking back from the toilet... if I'm not mistaken, Meadow was still parking the car when he looked up, and she entered the restaurant ******.

In fact, AJ was ****** too. At that point he was a made man...it was a war, so he was a target. I don't know if Carm was ****** though, Tony had told her in another episode that families were going to war, and when she started to freak, he told her to relax, wives and ****** members were off limits...it's a rule of honor.

 

[D-rock]

The reason I ask what your interpretation of the scene is because that's exactly what you're supposed to do.

I remember reading an interview with the shows creator (I can't remember his name), and he stated that the reason they ended it in that way was because if they were to show the after effects of whatever happened after the scene cut to black, whether it be Tony getting shot to fuck or the whole ****** going home and living happily ever after it would be a huge anti-climax because who really wants to see Tony on the floor dead or dying or indeed the exact opposite. It gives the series a finality that the way the actually ended doesn't - it allows the viewer to make up their own mind as to what happened.

In any type of story I'm always a big closure guy. I want to definitively know what happen. I would rather have more anti-climatic aftereffect where I know what happens than leave it up for interpretation. That's probably just me though. :dunno: At the very least I want meta-story explanation that reveals it from the writers about it even if it the plot doesn't reveal it.

With that said I think he's dead.

 

[BlueBalls]

In any type of story I'm always a big closure guy. I want to definitively know what happen. I would rather have more anti-climatic aftereffect where I know what happens than leave it up for interpretation. That's probably just me though. :dunno:

I enjoy ambiguity if it's properly conducted and it goes some way to support the overall narrative. I definitely wouldn't say I'd enjoy all movies to have some sense of ambiguity about them because that's just not palatable to either the audience or to certain types of story. But on that odd occasion where the writer or film maker has chosen to give the final word to the audience can (for me at least) be far more powerful than for them to have just wrapped it all up for you to go home with and forget about.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I agree, I wasn't happy about the ending at first, but it was the best way to go, and the audience DID need to come to their on conclusions. It also probably didn't hurt DVD sales, and future syndication of the show. Another reason I feel he was ****** was simply because, Gandolfini, and David Chase both stated they were just tired of the whole show, and would be happy to never see it again.

 

[D-rock]

I enjoy ambiguity if it's properly conducted and it goes some way to support the overall narrative. I definitely wouldn't say I'd enjoy all movies to have some sense of ambiguity about them because that's just not palatable to either the audience or to certain types of story. But on that odd occasion where the writer or film maker has chosen to give the final word to the audience can (for me at least) be far more powerful than for them to have just wrapped it all up for you to go home with and forget about.

I guess my biggest problem with it is that it's too often used and is with the exception of deus ex machina the biggest copout tool authors use in their narratives when they don't write things well, back themselves into a corner, or just need a contrived way to make a story seem artificially interesting (the show Lost is a great example of of the last one). Often it just covers for somebody running out of ideas. You end up with the audience doing their job for them, with nothing being official. I just feel if I invest that amount of time in a story I need some closure at the end.

 

[alexpnz]

Hi everybody.


SPOILERS HERE:

I just finished watching The Sopranos series in its entirety.
I had seen many random episodes back when it was a current series but never the whole thing and none of the last 2 seasons.

Now that last scene is bugging me.
Did he get whacked?
Any theories, explanation or proof of what happened after the scene cut to black?

And while were at it why did he **** Christopher?

You sure you are from Jersey, MP? :1orglaugh

JUST watched the finale?
Yes, he got whacked....AJ Soprano becomes the new MORE RUTHLESS Capo in the Sopranos movie coming in 2013, after being a pussy much of his life!

He ****** Chrissy for 2 reasons:
1) He was a Junkie
2) Junkies roll over when pinched!

Cmom MP....

 

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