*Is Free Speech Dead ?*

Is free speech dead in the talk forum

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 70.2%
  • No

    Votes: 9 19.1%
  • Unsure or don't care

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Total voters
    47
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I don't think that there ever was the promise of "free speech" on the board, just as there is in practice not in real life.

I remember a **** sympathiser last year that was ******, I remember a ********** too... No one cried "damn mods", or "power hungry mods" when they were ******. There are rules, simple really, that are in place to keep the board productive and civil. When a member continuously ******** these rules, consequences occur. I think that temporary bans can be effective, but not when the behavior keeps occurring.

I am offeneded by "Reptile"'s post two up - so should all of you.

I can speak only for myself when I say that the daily flow of Reported Posts reads very often like a childs report card or game. He called me this, or I don't like this guy... There are plenty of members here that I find offensive and degrading towards women (and more), but so what?!

I think that the board, the interenet in general, has a very bad case of "last word" syndrome. I could not careless if someone calls me an asshole or what ever on the board, I feel no need to respond at all. I cannot even imagine getting so worked up about an issue here that I need to call someone a name.

Ignoring a comment works very well. This is really not a university deabte and the topics to me fall way off of the reasons that I joined the board - the women and models. To each his own, within reason...
 
Question for FB:
You did'nt know about 001 being LR ?
How come the mods don't talk between themselves ? He had a deal with Freeones himself to comeback here, NF and Foxy were fine with it, how come you did'nt know that ?
 
When agreements are made and ratified by the parties involved - and then reneged upon by others utilizing kangaroo court practices - then it becomes less than honourable and turns into tyranny and oppression.

Plain and simple.
 
Reptile said:
Dead long ago. Someone sent me the ribbon, and I encourage everyone to wear it in their signature. They are not moderators, they are **** Stormtroopers.

Reptile

No, they are not and anyone who knows the first thing about the atrocities that have been committed by **** stormtroopers should be offended by such a stupid remark.

Now, as to the topic of this thread: The fact that we can discuss this thing serves as fact that Freeones and the mods appreciate and respect the freedom of speech. I have to say so that I wouldn't have voiced the same opinion yesterday as I found it inappropriate to just close down all the threads dealing with LisaSparxx and 001. Maybe I, as a simple user and member of this board am not entitled to information on why certain members are ****** and others aren't, but I think I am entitled to not being treated like a *****. There were quite a number of members discussing these incidents and it was obvious that most were looking for an explanation, especially since there actually weren't that many here who really knew 001 previously was LR. So shutting down the discussion was bad style in my eyes.

I understand, on the other hand, that sometimes people in charge see the need to cool down heated arguments spreading like wildfires. The threads that were closed the other day were at least on the verge to becoming war scenes between members. But again, I don't think just making them shut up was the best solution. How about next time something like that happens (which hopefully is not too soon), one of the mods posts a comment to the situation somewhere? That also cools down the atmosphere and it can be done in addition to closing threads that are getting out of hand.

Lastly, I thank "Frasier" QBall for his posts in this thread, they were a pleasure to read as always. In the case of 001, which actually is another topic than the one this thread was created about, I second everything QBall said. I am especially intrigued by the fact that apparently some mods and members knew of his previous identity and others didn't. In that light it appears a little unfair to throw him out like that. In his role as 001 he has been a very valuable, good-spirited and helpful member of this board. How about letting him back on in a couple of days? To me, that seems to be an agreeable solution since obviously some mods had no problems about letting him back on before.

(That's gotta be the longest post I ever had here).
 
All I have to say is that I'm not contributing to the board anymore until someone answers exactly why 001 was ****** again after almost everyone forgave him. For those that still want the vids and links I post you can find me and them at the Haven.
 
Reptile said:
Dead long ago. Someone sent me the ribbon, and I encourage everyone to wear it in their signature. They are not moderators, they are **** Stormtroopers.

Reptile
Do you think before you type? How can you call mods like that?
You have guide lines and rules and if you systematically disabide these rules rules or are too much disruptive you know what happens.
If there were no freedom of speech, you wouldn't be entitled to have your opinion.
Back to bigdan's argument, probably fb wasn't informed (all is possible and we will see what fb's reply will be).
I think that some people hardly forget the past and others not, it depends of the individuals.
just my opinion on this subject.

regards

georges
 
Brino said:
All I have to say is that I'm not contributing to the board anymore until someone answers exactly why 001 was ****** again after almost everyone forgave him. For those that still want the vids and links I post you can find me and them at the Haven.


Top post Brino :thumbsup:

We will prolly hear the same old story im afriad though of 001 being a former ****** member.

Fair enough,Thats the truth but after 001 being allowed back onto FO and Super mods knowing about it and giving him a chance...Id like to know why then he is ****** now....just like the many other members of this forum.
 
Aye... I'm new to these parts, but I could'nae help but notice that oppression is still alive and well.

'Tis a shame.

I say it before an' I'll say it agin,

There's a difference between us. You think the people of this land exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.

Good luck, lads. :hatsoff:
 
Vegas Yankee said:
Lastly, I thank "Frasier" QBall for his posts in this thread, they were a pleasure to read as always. In the case of 001, which actually is another topic than the one this thread was created about, I second everything QBall said.


I now feel strangely compelled to break out into an impromtu jam session featuring the theme song for Frasier!



Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin',
Tossed salad and scrambled eggs

Oh My
Mercy

And maybe I seem a bit confused,
Yeah maybe, but I got you pegged!
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

But I don't know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs.
They're callin' again.

They're callin' again.
Good night, Seattle, we love you.
What is a boy to do. Good night.
Frasier has left the building.
Thank You!
Scambled eggs all over my face. What is a boy to do. Goodnight, everybody.
See you next year, we love ya.

ROTFLMFAO :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
:wave2: Thanks for all the replies so far, many more than I thought this thread would get.

Qball1970 said:
What happened yesterday, last night, this morning, and this afternoon was a complete travesty. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. Period. The WRONG person was ******.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. The wrong person was definitely ******.

bigdan1110 said:
We should at least know what he have done wrong... i've been rereading his last few posts and i can't see anything wrong...

No, and nor can I. It would appear his only transgression was 'openly' admitting he was LR - something that was hardly a secret anyway.

Phil77 said:
It appears to me what is considered bitching and monaing to Famousbabes, I would be willing to call it ***** of power simply because he is a mod. He feels the "power" to say and do anything he wants byt posting the rules, and the agreement when we sign up. We are not idiots FB, so give us some credit whenit is due. Think of it as a job, when employees are not happy about their work enviornment, would just simply say, oh quit your bitching, and moaning, you signed the papers to work with this company so just deal with it. I think not, unless you have no dignity.

Qball1970 said:
When agreements are made and ratified by the parties involved - and then reneged upon by others utilizing kangaroo court practices - then it becomes less than honourable and turns into tyranny and oppression.
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I'll agree with both Phil77 and Qball1970. I don't think it was ***** of power by Famousbabes, but I do disagree with just posting the rules and thinking that's it.
Fine, the rules are there and to be respected. But it is the members that make the board what it is, and I think the members thoughts should count for something.

Famousbabes said:
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws and/or copyright laws (Our Copyright rules).

The owners of FreeOnes Bulletin Board reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.
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Bitching and ****** wont help anything either. Go find your cause somewhere else.

This is the first time I've ever disagreed with a Mod's posting before - might've disagreed with decisions, but never a post. I'll probably be ****** for this, lol, but got to give my honest opinion.
The last line is totally out of order, and shows a total lack of respect:

Freeones said:
Respect:Treat other users how you wish to be treated. Respect others opinions and when there is a disagreement do not take it any further then necessary. Show respect to the board members/admins/newbies and you will receive it back.

(for the full version of rules, check here):
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Showing such a lack of respect for others opinions is wrong, and in this context could be misread as '***** of power'.

Union Jax said:
Fair enough,Thats the truth but after 001 being allowed back onto FO and Super mods knowing about it and giving him a chance...Id like to know why then he is ****** now....just like the many other members of this forum.

I agree UJ, even had other Mod's posting in the 001 threads, and they didn't ban him.
I think it's the inconsistency that people really object to, as different Mod's take different lines.

Just my thoughts anyway.
 
lisasparxxx said:
Not much of a dark day. The thread was removed we all said sorry. I gave out free memberships as a gift of my apology.

Its all squashed.

:glugglug:
can i get one of those free memberships.
 
Stealthy Egg said:
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This site deals with Free Speech on the net. Check it out and display the ribbon!

:( It's a good informative site, but I see someone's ****** you as well. Don't know the history of this one, but it can't be for recent posts surely. :dunno: :helpme:

If we're gonna start getting bans for speaking our minds occasionally, then what's the point of the talk forum anyway ?
 
People that are ****** care coming back...... they still have Ips, and other ways for us to track them. When we find them, they get ******.
 
Dinalt said:
:( It's a good informative site, but I see someone's ****** you as well. Don't know the history of this one, but it can't be for recent posts surely. :dunno: :helpme:

If we're gonna start getting bans for speaking our minds occasionally, then what's the point of the talk forum anyway ?
If a person that is ****** just starts up new accounts and just posts away again... should we just let them back in?

Really people, we have made up our minds about these people, and we don't ban them for nothing. Really, really, really.

This thread about free speech... I respect it. But don't take it too far. We are trying to do our jobs here and of course you don't always agree. But most of the time this isn't such a bad place... is it?
 
Famousbabes said:
People that are ****** care coming back...... they still have Ips, and other ways for us to track them. When we find them, they get ******.


But like i said last night fb in another thread...Phill77 (no offence again Phill ;) )

He has been ****** before also on another name and came back as Phill77...been ****** a couple of times on that name also and he is allowed to stay.

I really cant see the difference with him and 001 :confused:
 
Oh and that ribbon annoys the hell out of me. Go ahead and take the victim role everyone, the mod team are the bad guys!

pffff...
 
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