*Is Free Speech Dead ?*

[member5726]

We should at least know what he have done wrong... i've been rereading his last few posts and i can't see anything wrong... :dunno:

Anyway... this board have lost a lot of credibility in my book, i for one will become member on his board and start posting, i think that everybody who feel for him should do the same. :2 cents:

 

[Aces&Jacks]

We should at least know what he have done wrong... i've been rereading his last few posts and i can't see anything wrong... :dunno:

If you get ****** I'm sure you'll be notified why. Does everyone else on the board have the right to know the reason's why you got ****** if it were to happen? No! It's an issue between Administration and the person who got ******. You and every other member may not be aware of the total situation, so why speculate about it.

 

[QBall1970]

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Bitching and ****** wont help anything either. Go find your cause somewhere else.

I'm going to respond to this quote with as much dignity and decorum as befits a respected Moderator and acquaintance. I could be ****** for it... so hey, if I am ****** by the time I next log-in: It was good being a part of this Board. I enjoyed it.

No one's questioning whether or not the rules are fair, FamousBabes. I, for one, follow every single rule each and every day that I post on this Board. I've YET to here ANYONE complain about the quality of what I submit on this Board. Sure... I shoot my mouth off quite occasionally and I DO get called on it quite frequently.... BUT, the big difference is that I can pretty much always back up my posts with solid, factual evidence.

Now... in regards to everything else, I can only speak for myself when I say that I think all MY posts were pretty much on the nose: If those rules ARE in place for those specific reasons, then they should apply to EVERYONE... not just wily-nily whenever it suits someone.

You just said yourself... and I quote, "By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws and/or copyright laws."

My response to that is this:

Why not take a moment and look up LisaSparxxx's posted replies to those I've named in most of these threads today? Verify the truth in all of my posts. Why not ask THEM if THEY thought the rules were applied fairly and equally? I can guarantee you that each person - including myself - will look you dead square in the eye and give you a resounding, "Hell fucking no" for an answer.

I, for one, don't cotton to being called a prick or being talked down to as if I were some piece of sorry **** on a sidewalk... ESPECIALLY by some illiterate loser with minimal education at best. I was polite to her... incredibly polite and deferential. And yet... I was also called a prick and was pretty much condescended to just like all the rest whom dared to disagree with her so-called career decisions.

And so I ask you as a Moderator: Where were the rules then? How come I sent in FOUR Bad Post Reports on her... and not a thing was done?

And yet, the one member who has made the most dramatic of all turn-arounds is ****** simply because... (reasons unknown)

As for bitching, moaning, and ******... I personally do none of those, so I know that statement doesn't apply to me. As for your statement about causes? I can speak only for me, but I personally will defend ANYONE whom I see fit to defend; even if that person HAS in that past been something of an ass. EVERYBODY deserves a second chance for redemption.

I simply call it as I see it.

What happened yesterday and today was a complete FUBAR'ed travesty in my eyes and opinion. No more, no less. It shouldn't have been allowed to happen. Period.

Originally Posted by FREEONES
Some people think they can post everything what popsup in their head. Those people are wrong ! They should read the rules:
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Respect:
Treat other users how you wish to be treated. Respect others opinions and when there is a disagreement do not take it any further then necessary. Show respect to the board members/admins/newbies and you will receive it back.

If you don't follow these simple rules you will get ****** for life like LordRaven. We no longer tolerate any impolite behaviour. Not in posts, not in reputation messages. The Freeones board is not a **** playground with some baby-sitters. If you can't behave like an adult and showing respect it's better that you go somewhere else.

*All cool people on the board, sorry that I had to post this and took 2 minutes of your time.

*Freeones*

 

[Famousbabes]

What some of you don't get.. it's up the mods and admins to handle the board.. not the members. Sheesh people.

Do you know we aren't talking about what to do about Lisa or anyone else? You don't know.

I wasn't even talking to Qball in my first post.

 

[QBall1970]

Oh, I know you weren't talking to me personally, FamousBabes. It's just sometimes you gotta stand up and voice your opinions, man. I'm not taking you to task, either.... just my own opinions from both sides of the equation.

:hatsoff: :thumbsup:

And I agree wholeheartedly, FamousBabes. I've never said differently, now have I? What I HAVE said, though, is that the rules should apply equally and fairly to EVERYONE across the Board.

As for 001? No, I can't claim personal knowledge of why he was ******. I can only speculate much like the rest of the Board constituencey. It just seems a little odd, though, that all of this came about just right after that debacle with LisaSparxxx.

My biggest bitch right now is not just about LordRaven/001 being ******... it's about the fact that a so-called "invited guest" can come on here and create such a firestorm of ****, pandemonium, and chaos... and yet, she pretty much got away with it. Not a thing was said to her on a thread... not a thing.

But were it one of US... the regular everyday Board members... hell, we would have been chastised roundly on the thread and be told that our "asses" would be ****** or ****** outright.

I'm sorry if that offends you as a Moderator, but I see it from BOTH sides: being an Administrator of my own Site(s) AND as a member of this Forum. Hell, if I didn't like it here so much, I wouldn't be here. I know the job isn't easy. I know you don't get anything for it. But yet and still... Moderators, Super Moderators, Global Moderators, and Administrators are LEADERS. And they should act as such.

And BEFORE anyone goes off all half-cocked about that last statement.... NO, it was NOT directed at any one specific individual. I'm making a general statement reflecting my own OPINIONS.

 

[jod0565]

What some of you don't get.. it's up the mods and admins to handle the board.. not the members. Sheesh people.

Do you know we aren't talking about what to do about Lisa or anyone else? You don't know.

FB is correct - we don't know all the inner workings of this board, maybe we don't want to.
If someone is ****** for life from a board, it does not matter how that person behaves if they try to resurrect themselves.
I posted, "Who's LR?", lightheartedly, in Digital's thread yesterday - I thought 001 was a good contributer and did not know they were one and the same.
Dislike this if you'd like - What would it be like if members made up the rules as they go along, with no mods or an admin to oversee what is being written?
No wonder 001 had so many posts in a short time - he knew he was on a time limit.

 

[4G63]

What some of you don't get.. it's up the mods and admins to handle the board.. not the members. Sheesh people.

Do you know we aren't talking about what to do about Lisa or anyone else? You don't know.

I wasn't even talking to Qball in my first post.

I think that's what is upsetting everyone, that it's up to the mods. Every system goes through this. Those closest (the high post/rep point members) to the action are angered by those in power (the mods). The longer your in a communal place the more you feel apart of it, and when you feel ignored or in any other way made to feel less important, you fight back.


One side needs to back down, or it'll get nasty.

 

[Famousbabes]

To respond to Q directly.
I didn't even know 001 was LR till yesterday. He's a ****** person. So when I find out someones came back.. they get ****** again.

To speak on Lisa S. I personally think she needs to get a warning pm and or Email since it was her 1st offense. I gave my opionion and left it up to freeones himself on what to do. If another mod steps up and does something towards lisa, well I can't stop them.
I have nothing against Q or his comments here. Never had any ever.

 

[QBall1970]

To respond to Q directly.
I didn't even know 001 was LR till yesterday. He's a ****** person. So when I find out someones came back.. they get ****** again.

To speak on Lisa S. I personally think she needs to get a warning pm and or Email since it was her 1st offense. I gave my opionion and left it up to freeones himself on what to do. If another mod steps up and does something towards lisa, well I can't stop them.
I have nothing against Q or his comments here. Never had any ever.

Cool. Thank you, FB... I really appreciate the fact that you stepped up and acknowledge my concerns, bitches, and gripes. Now THAT is leadership...

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: .

 

[eschnabel]

To respond to Q directly.
I didn't even know 001 was LR till yesterday. He's a ****** person. So when I find out someones came back.. they get ****** again.

To speak on Lisa S. I personally think she needs to get a warning pm and or Email since it was her 1st offense. I gave my opionion and left it up to freeones himself on what to do. If another mod steps up and does something towards lisa, well I can't stop them.
I have nothing against Q or his comments here. Never had any ever.

Thank you as well! We all just wanted a little reasoning as to why this happened. I wish that the board would have addressed this when it occured and then informed us that the threads would be closed. This shouldn't have been allowed to fester and become a major issue. I still don't fully agree with ithe decision, but at least this has been resolved :2 cents:

 

[mr336wmg]

I am so tired of all the whining done on these boards. I truly believe that there are too many people that want to run things here. Members have been getting ****** far too often lately. I therefore will no longer be visiting these boards. I know I have not been the most prolific of posters, but I have been a member for nearly a year. The boards were a blast in the beginning, but have gotten too political and self-righteous over the last several months. The moderators have gotten ***** with “banning power”.

This will be my last post, as an act of demonstrating my distaste for the way the boards have become, I QUIT.

 

[Phil77]

I am so tired of all the whining done on these boards. I truly believe that there are too many people that want to run things here. Members have been getting ****** far too often lately. I therefore will no longer be visiting these boards. I know I have not been the most prolific of posters, but I have been a member for nearly a year. The boards were a blast in the beginning, but have gotten too political and self-righteous over the last several months. The moderators have gotten ***** with “banning power”.

This will be my last post, as an act of demonstrating my distaste for the way the boards have become, I QUIT.

and you are? :dunno:

 

[Phil77]

If you get ****** I'm sure you'll be notified why. Does everyone else on the board have the right to know the reason's why you got ****** if it were to happen? No! It's an issue between Administration and the person who got ******. You and every other member may not be aware of the total situation, so why speculate about it.

Well as a person who has been ******, they actually sometimes don't tell you, if its for flaming, they'll say in the board, so and so please respect all board members see you in XXX days.

It appears to me what is considered bitching and monaing to Famousbabes, I would be willing to call it ***** of power simply because he is a mod. He feels the "power" to say and do anything he wants byt posting the rules, and the agreement when we sign up. We are not idiots FB, so give us some credit whenit is due. Think of it as a job, when employees are not happy about their work enviornment, would just simply say, oh quit your bitching, and moaning, you signed the papers to work with this company so just deal with it. I think not, unless you have no dignity. :2 cents:

 

[jdb67]

No!!! Free speech is not dead.... Qball1967 had his say and he hasn't been ****** and that is great!!! Free speech is alive and well at Freeones!!!

001/Raven, whatever you want to refer to him as, is gone.... Why??? The post's by Famousbabes indicated to me that his banning had little or nothing to do with the "Lisa Sparxxx debarcle", but more along the lines of who his real Identity was... He himself came out and announced it!!! I had no idea as to his real id and didnt really care.... And yes, I am aware of "Lord Raven", I am a "long time reader, short time poster". In my early days watching, I would ask for the occasional id of a Favorite girl and LR helped me out a number of times.... I will miss his imput but at the end of the day, he is gone and that is it!!!

Originally Posted by FREEONES
Some people think they can post everything what popsup in their head. Those people are wrong ! They should read the rules:
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Respect:
Treat other users how you wish to be treated. Respect others opinions and when there is a disagreement do not take it any further then necessary. Show respect to the board members/admins/newbies and you will receive it back.


*Freeones*

If these rules had been abided by, "The Lisa Sparxxx Debarcle" would not have occurred!!! All she asked for, was our opinion on the proposed tours for her Site.... The comment made about her having a "loose pussy" might have been made in jest but it obviously taken as an insult!!! And I personally think it was in very poor taste not to mention off topic.... the way in with she replied was just as bad!!! This created a snowball effect....

This is a dark day for Freeones....


My :2 cents:

 

[LisaSparxxx]

No!!! Free speech is not dead.... Qball1967 had his say and he hasn't been ****** and that is great!!! Free speech is alive and well at Freeones!!!

001/Raven, whatever you want to refer to him as, is gone.... Why??? The post's by Famousbabes indicated to me that his banning had little or nothing to do with the "Lisa Sparxxx debarcle", but more along the lines of who his real Identity was... He himself came out and announced it!!! I had no idea as to his real id and didnt really care.... And yes, I am aware of "Lord Raven", I am a "long time reader, short time poster". In my early days watching, I would ask for the occasional id of a Favorite girl and LR helped me out a number of times.... I will miss his imput but at the end of the day, he is gone and that is it!!!



If these rules had been abided by, "The Lisa Sparxxx Debarcle" would not have occurred!!! All she asked for, was our opinion on the proposed tours for her Site.... The comment made about her having a "loose pussy" might have been made in jest but it obviously taken as an insult!!! And I personally think it was in very poor taste not to mention off topic.... the way in with she replied was just as bad!!! This created a snowball effect....

This is a dark day for Freeones....


My :2 cents:

Not much of a dark day. The thread was removed we all said sorry. I gave out free memberships as a gift of my apology.

Its all squashed.

:glugglug:

 

[jdb67]

Not much of a dark day. The thread was removed we all said sorry. I gave out free memberships as a gift of my apology.

Its all squashed.

:glugglug:

Fantastic!!!!..... Where's mine??? :wave2: :thumbsup:

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Anyway... this board have lost a lot of credibility in my book, i for one will become member on his board and start posting, i think that everybody who feel for him should do the same. :2 cents:

BD...what is the address for his board ?

 

[QBall1970]

BD...what is the address for his board ?

Check your private messages, Mr. Miyagi. I'll send you the link.


:hatsoff:

 

[Reptile]

Dead long ago. Someone sent me the ribbon, and I encourage everyone to wear it in their signature. They are not moderators, they are **** Stormtroopers.

Reptile

 

[Stealthy Egg]

I got my ribbon on.