In Alabama, you need a voter ID to vote. And blacks are gonna have a hard time getting one...

How to suppress black votes ? Very simple :

1) Require people to get a photo ID to vote
2) Close voter ID office in overwhelmingly black populated counties


Voter ID and driver's license office closures black-out Alabama's Black Belt


I still remember when the lady in the uniform giving me my driver's test asked me to do a three-point turn.
Instead, I gave her a blank stare. I had no idea what a three-point turn was. It was a couple of days after my sixteenth birthday, and I knew right then that I wouldn't be getting a license that day, but the lady was nice about it. Politely, she explained what I was supposed to do. Next we drove back to the Clarke County courthouse, and she failed me.
A couple weeks later, I took the test again. That time, I passed, but my parents weren't all that happy that we had to make a second trip.
And that trip was only 10 miles, each way. When you live in a rural area, 10 miles seems a lot farther there.

However, today a lot of folks will have to drive a lot farther just to be able to drive.
The Alabama Law Enforcement Agency's website says their office at the Clarke County Courthouse is still open, but soon a lot of others nearby won't be. On Wednesday, the agency announced that it would close 31 offices throughout the state, leaving 28 counties without a place where 16-year-olds can take a driver's test, whether they pass on the first try or not.
That's an inconvenience.

But there's something bigger happening here.
In 2011, Alabama lawmakers approved the state's voter ID law, making it illegal to vote in Alabama without a government-issued photo ID.
For most folks, that's a driver's license.
In those 28 counties you might be able to register at the courthouse, but you won't be able to cast a ballot there unless you have that ID.
That's not just an inconvenience. That's a problem.
But it gets worse.

Look at the list of counties now where you can't get a driver's license. There's Choctaw, Sumter, Hale, Greene, Perry, Wilcox, Lowndes, Butler, Crenshaw, Macon, Bullock ...
If you had to memorize all the Alabama Counties in 9th grade, like I did -- and even if you forgot most of them, like I have -- you can probably guess where we're going with this.
Depending on which counties you count as being in Alabama's Black Belt, either twelve or fifteen Black Belt counties soon won't have a place to get a driver's license.
Counties where some of the state's poorest live.
Counties that are majority African-American.

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Combine that with the federally mandated Star ID taking effect next year, and we're looking at a nightmare.
Or a trial lawyer's dream.

When the state passed Voter ID, Republican lawmakers argued that it was supposed to prevent voter fraud. Democrats said the law was written to disenfranchise black voters and suppress the voice of the poor.
Maybe, maybe not.
But put these two things together -- Voter ID and 28 counties without a place where you can get a driver's license -- and Voter ID becomes what the Democrats always said it was.

A civil rights lawsuit isn't a probability. It's a certainty.
You don't have to know what a three-point turn is to see where this truck is going.
It's only a matter of time before some lawyer takes the state where that test administrator took me -- back to the courthouse.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/voter_id_and_drivers_license_o.html

This is ho GOP plans to win future elections despite having the democratics against them : deny the right to vote from people who most probably won't vote Republican...
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Only a racist dickhead would assume an entire race of people would have trouble getting an ID card. It's not expensive or difficult to get a state issued ID. Poor people need identification to cash unemployment and welfare checks, apply for food stamps, drive their hoopdy cars, purchase alcohol, get on an airplane, etc. etc.

I always knew you were a racist asshole.
 
well there might be a some racist dickheads & assholes on here, but i don't think johan is one


statistically less ethic minority people have photo ID in the US



so by introducing these new rules, it is to try to limit minority voters exercising their democratic right - and this is because these people are more likely to vote democrat


all the above is true - and calling me, or anybody else, racist for pointing this out doesn't change this reality
 
There is only one reason why left wing kooks are opposed to voter ID. It limits their ability to commit voter fraud. I have an idea, let's fingerprint registered voters and scan their fingerprints before they vote. No ID, no problem. Right?
 
I have an idea, let's fingerprint registered voters and scan their fingerprints before they vote. No ID, no problem. Right?
You want government officials to take fingerprints of every registered voter, right ? I thought the Right was opposed to big government...
 
anyone want to provide info on actual voter fraud thats taken place or been attempted in last 10 years?

something that may effect more than 0.01% of the vote even - you know, that might be worth limiting innocent citizens' democratic rights for?



i'll wait for these facts, but i think i might get distracted by the tumbleweed while waiting....
 
anyone want to provide info on actual voter fraud thats taken place or been attempted in last 10 years?

something that may effect more than 0.01% of the vote even - you know, that might be worth limiting innocent citizens' democratic rights for?



i'll wait for these facts, but i think i might get distracted by the tumbleweed while waiting....
I see more liberal intelligentsia has joined the board. Most voter fraud occurs in the metropolitan areas that are controlled by Democratic registrars. Fraud deniers have been playing this game of it doesn't exist since Joe Kennedy bought his son's presidency in 1960. The rolls, data bases and everything else are controlled by the cheating scum. So of course the evidence is not presented. Fingerprint everyone that wants to vote if you don't want to use ID. Nothing unconstitutional or disenfranchising about it but of course you don't want to do that either. Republicans: Winning elections the hard way since 1968.
 
You want government officials to take fingerprints of every registered voter, right ? I thought the Right was opposed to big government...
No more big government intrusion than the registration process itself , dipshit.
 
anyone want to provide info on actual voter fraud thats taken place or been attempted in last 10 years?

something that may effect more than 0.01% of the vote even - you know, that might be worth limiting innocent citizens' democratic rights for?

Not sure where you live blakey, but there's a magical bus that appears on election day in America that only republicans can see. It shows up at polling places full of black people (they're always black) dressed in the attire of some out of state sports team, and they go in there and register and vote on the spot, before getting back on the bus and disappearing before anyone can snap a cell phone pic. I heard about one bus that had 200 of them in it. Wished I could have seen it, because I don't think there's a bus in existence that holds that many people. I think it would have been invisible to me anyway, not being a republican and all...
Anyway that's how Obama keeps winning presidential elections. Without that magic bus Romney would have gotten 100% of the vote in 2012.
 
I don't buy the premise but even so, is this really an issue when it comes to a presidential election in Alabama of all places?

Can you get anymore crims.... red than Alabama? It'd be like complaining that republicans are being disenfranchised in seattle - sure it'd be wrong, but among a population who would vote 90% for Mao Tse-Tung if he were running, what difference would it make?
 

BlkHawk

Closed Account
Got to have a birth certificate for that bub. Everyone knows that a birth certificate is essentially profiling.

It is not profiling but it can be very difficult to obtain at times. My grandfather never had one, he died in 1982 so he avoided some of the things it would be required for.

My father didn't have access to one for years, the original was lost in a house fire, the one the state had got lost. According to him it took a fair amount of time and effort to have one reissued. So yes I could see that being a burden for some in exercising their constitutional rights.

How do you support not adding restrictions to the 2nd amendment, but support adding restrictions to the right to vote? I feel I should add that is not an attack at anyone on the board, and is a general question to everyone, not only Just BC. I am curious as to peoples thoughts on the matter.
 
How do you support not adding restrictions to the 2nd amendment, but support adding restrictions to the right to vote? I feel I should add that is not an attack at anyone on the board, and is a general question to everyone, not only Just BC. I am curious as to peoples thoughts on the matter.

Is it restricting or verifying? They just want to make sure you're not dead.
 

BlkHawk

Closed Account
Is it restricting or verifying? They just want to make sure you're not dead.

I'm not sure actually, I have known two people that law would have prevented from voting in at least one election. If you do not know the requirement beforehand and don't find out until you go to vote, the chances of getting that paperwork in time are slim.

I would view it as more verification if each state that implements laws similar to this makes a proactive effort to get every eligible citizen the proper identification in plenty of time for the election. Including waiving all costs associated with getting the proper ID, otherwise it reminds me of a poll tax.

How does this work with absentee ballots? I have volunteered in senior centers/assisted living places where virtually everyone votes with an absentee ballot. They most likely have no drivers license, and may have similar issues with birth certificates as my father had. Most had physical impairments that would hinder travel to the location that provides the photo ID, or no one to take them there in the first place. Plus how do you verify the photo ID when a ballot is mailed in?

I am not very informed on these types of laws as my state hasn't implemented them, so I would hope these issues have been addressed.
 
I see more liberal intelligentsia has joined the board. Most voter fraud occurs in the metropolitan areas that are controlled by Democratic registrars. Fraud deniers have been playing this game of it doesn't exist since Joe Kennedy bought his son's presidency in 1960. The rolls, data bases and everything else are controlled by the cheating scum. So of course the evidence is not presented. Fingerprint everyone that wants to vote if you don't want to use ID. Nothing unconstitutional or disenfranchising about it but of course you don't want to do that either. Republicans: Winning elections the hard way since 1968.

fyi, i joined 2 1/2 years before you :facepalm:

Not sure where you live blakey, but there's a magical bus that appears on election day in America that only republicans can see. It shows up at polling places full of black people (they're always black) dressed in the attire of some out of state sports team, and they go in there and register and vote on the spot, before getting back on the bus and disappearing before anyone can snap a cell phone pic. I heard about one bus that had 200 of them in it. Wished I could have seen it, because I don't think there's a bus in existence that holds that many people. I think it would have been invisible to me anyway, not being a republican and all...
Anyway that's how Obama keeps winning presidential elections. Without that magic bus Romney would have gotten 100% of the vote in 2012.

thanks for clearing that up pal

i guess being one of them "liberal intelligentsia" i'm not very good at seeing magical things
(that might not exist)

;)

good to see no -one providing any actual voter fraud stats though ...
 
remind me what happened to billy batts?


(and any voter fraud stats from a reputable source would be nice too :D )
 
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