I was arrested for DUI

[Hot Mega]

I see someone doesn't understand what an example used to illustrate a point is.

And altho you have indeed said you don't drink and drive you've also stated many times you think drinking and driving isn't that dangerous even tho there are plenty of tests to show otherwise so it could happen.

I see someone doesn't understand that a reasonable example requires some reasonable likelihood of happening.

"tests"? Do you know what "tests" I go by on this subject?? The ones that have practically demonstrated mere amounts of alcohol having minimal effects on the ability to perform a task like driving to the degree that it's virtually inconsequential.

Do mere amounts have an effect?? Yes!! No different than mere amounts of alcohol having an effect on one's ability to perform a task like writing their name. But will mere amounts cause a person to inadvertently substitute letters in their name for incorrect ones or write it so illegibly as not to be recognizable? Most likely not. In other words, even though they are affected...it still has little bearing on their ability to adequately perform that task.

I said, mere amounts of alcohol has an effect that is virtually inconsequential when it comes to adequately performing a task like (normal) driving.

THAT IS BACKED UP by the fact that people do it on the magnitude of some exponential amount of times which don't result in accident as compared to when it is the cause. EVEN WHEN accidents do occur and they are attributable to alcohol the numbers are comparatively low. That is despite those numbers being loaded with incidents where alcohol clearly had no causal relationship to the accident but merely a person involved had alcohol in their system. I mean, pretty soon they'll labeling accidents which happen in front of liquor stores as alcohol related.

The number of times people drink, drive then cause accidents is more than likely less than 1 percent. Does that mean anything to you in this discussion?

There are some in this thread who have claimed that when they drink they do so in small amounts and when they drive they drive more conscientiously because of it. I think you lambasted them for being delusional. Setting aside for a moment that the suggestion is utterly reasonable, practical and possible...how would you even be in a position to refute such a claim?? I'm under the assumption you have little to no experience with doing it, so from where would your perspective be derived? I don't do it but I've done it. I know that mere amounts of alcohol don't cause a person to mistake a green light for a red light, or not look both ways before proceeding, or prevent you from turning a steering wheel or keeping a car in a straight line, etc.

If it did, fuck drinking then driving....I would be against people even drinking then go out walking.

 

[Hot Mega]

The reality is there are more fatality of traffic due to




fatigue,

lack of sleep,

use of prescription drugs and

distraction including watching porn on DVD while driving,

arguing with your wife/gf/ex-gf or talking to your gf on your cell or your fat Mama

even your children.


The cost of DUI is so high. The best way is never have a drop of alcohol except at home !

Call a cab, have a friend to drive or just sleep in your car !

My limited experience is there are two fatal accidents involved midnight shift workers just getting off work at 7 a.m. and fell to sleep at the wheel.


But the deadliest accident is street racing and not knowing what to do when your car suddenly stop at the middle lane of the highway.


Get out of the highway and call a tow truck and the cop.



DO NOT STAND BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF YOUR CAR IN THE MIDDLE LANE OF THE HIGHWAY, YOU PROBABLY WILL BE KILLED BY A SEMI !!

Various studies have tended to indicate the following;

Speed is the no. 1 factor in fatal accidents.

Fatigued driving is the riskiest and is 7 times more dangerous than driving with some degree of alcohol in your system.

Distracted driving causes the most accidents.

 

[Honky Hindu]

Just an update: I got the charged reduced down to a wet & reckless, which is good news but believe me, I have learned my lesson.

 

[Hot Mega]

Just an update: I got the charged reduced down to a wet & reckless, which is good news but believe me, I have learned my lesson.

Good.

 

[camplo72]

had a friend that was kill by a drunk drive,and a cousin...so its hard for me to feel bad for you.

 

[Donkey Boy]

Before I was caught and arrested for my DUI, I drove drunk hundreds and hundreds of times. I'm not proud of that, but it's true. Not once, not one single time before my DUI, did I get into any accidents or even come close to being in a wreck and/or breaking the law.

:wtf:
I'd say you broke the law 100% of those hundreds and hundreds of times you "drove drunk."

LOL.

 

[Elwood70]

There is another alternative to driving after having drank alcohol......sleep it off or wait it off in your car then drive home.:2 cents:

..and if a cop happens to come upon you sleeping or waiting it off in your parked car,what'll happen? You'll still get a DWI,at least in Maryland.

 

[Donkey Boy]

But do you honestly attribute "a couple of beers" to being the sole or determinative culprit in causing an individual to cross into oncoming lanes of traffic?

Do you honestly think an individual who is completely clear of any mood or mind-altering substance is more likely to cross into oncoming lanes of traffic?

Of course alcohol may not be the determinant factor in an accident, but it most assuredly is a contributing factor.

Illness, medication, stress, fatigue, emotion could all also be contributing factors to an accident, but an individual who may otherwise be able to cope both in faculties and reaction time most likely has their senses dulled by the addition of alcohol and thus is less likely to find themselves in a situation that leads to an accident.

I can't believe you are actually still trying to "justify" driving while intoxicated.

 

[Hot Mega]

..and if a cop happens to come upon you sleeping or waiting it off in your parked car,what'll happen? You'll still get a DWI,at least in Maryland.

Cops can arrest and charge you with anything. I'm not sure how they prove you were over the legal limit at the time you were driving if the you are park and the keys are not in the ignition.

Do you honestly think an individual who is completely clear of any mood or mind-altering substance is more likely to cross into oncoming lanes of traffic?

Absolutely! You are FARRRRR more likely to cause an accident like that if you are completely sober but doing something else distracting. The statistics bear that out overwhelmingly. Mere amounts of alcohol WILL NOT cause a person to cross into opposing lanes of traffic all things being equal.

Of course alcohol may not be the determinant factor in an accident, but it most assuredly is a contributing factor.

How can you know that??? The only clear thing apparent is in the cases where people have mere amounts of alcohol in their system there is some other contributory factor (and likely the primary cause)not just the alcohol.

I can't believe you are actually still trying to "justify" driving while intoxicated.

I can't believe you still think I'm trying to justify anything. I'm simply telling you what it is and what it isn't based on the statistics....You have a problem with that, take it up with the statistics.:dunno:

 

[Elwood70]

Cops can arrest and charge you with anything. I'm not sure how they prove you were over the legal limit at the time you were driving if the you are park and the keys are not in the ignition.

I don't know,it must be in the wording of the law in MD,but if you're drunk in this state,don't get behind the wheel for any reason.

 

[DJCowboy]

Where I go to school we actually just had a pretty bad accident where one girl was too drunk going down the highway on the wrong side of the road and ran head on into another girl. Of course the drunk girl lived and the sober girl died so that sucks and it was completely unnecessary. One girl lost a life and the other girl's is basically ruined. She'll most likely get manslaughter charges and have to live with the guilt of the stupid choices she made that night. Just thought I'd put that in here as well

 

[Hot Mega]

I don't know,it must be in the wording of the law in MD,but if you're drunk in this state,don't get behind the wheel for any reason.

I don't believe MD has a zero tolerance, meaning you may not operate a vehicle with any appreciable amounts of alcohol in your bloodstream. I think the limit is .10. Your BAC is not static...it is either rising or falling depending on certain conditions which affect your metabolism rate of alcohol.

Now how does this matter? In most jurisdictions law enforcement has to demonstrate you were at or above the legal limit and operating a vehicle at the time you were over said limit. Pretty difficult to determine beyond a reasonable doubt if you don't catch the person driving. Operating a vehicle includes circumstances where the vehicle is turn off but the keys are in the ignition...even more draconian jurisdictions include that to mean the keys being within the driver's reach.

I can't believe MD is so backwards that you can be charged and convicted for DUI if you're over the limit, parked legally and asleep in your car with the keys in your pocket.

Since they don't ban establishments from serving alcohol...that type of enforcement would actually seem to encourage people who are over the limit to drive in that condition.

 

[Elwood70]

I don't believe MD has a zero tolerance, meaning you may not operate a vehicle with any appreciable amounts of alcohol in your bloodstream. I think the limit is .10.
I can't believe MD is so backwards that you can be charged and convicted for DUI if you're over the limit, parked legally and asleep in your car with the keys in your pocket.

1.-The limit is .08

2-They are.

 

[Hot Mega]

2-They are.

1-Thankfully that stupidity hasn't spread beyond the borders of MD.

2-Save yourself enough money to catch a cab home.

 

[Elwood70]

1-Thankfully that stupidity hasn't spread beyond the borders of MD.

2-Save yourself enough money to catch a cab home.

1.-Yet

2.-Not an issue anymore.If I'm going to drink,I don't drive...simple.

 

[DJCowboy]

1-Thankfully that stupidity hasn't spread beyond the borders of MD.

It has already, it's the same law here in South Dakota. I think even if you throw the keys in the trunk and they search your car and find them you can still get it. Which I think I can see being an intent to drive but a DUI means "DRIVING Under the Influence" so seeing how the car isn't in motion it really doesn't make much sense to me either. One of my friends got his one and only DUI that way though. He was passed out in his car because he realized he was too drunk to drive so he just slept in his car with the keys on the floor, a cop saw someone in there and he got hit up with a DUI

We finally recently got rid of a law where if you were riding a bike you were able to get one and also if you were riding a horse you could get one. The only harm you could really do on a bike is to yourself and even then it's just a scrape and a horse will generally be able to avoid any obstacles in the way (not to mention nobody in this state rides horses anymore!!!). When they got rid of that law, my friends and I wanted to see if we could rent horses, dress as cowboys and go to the bars. We never got around to it.

 

[Honky Hindu]

In case you were all wondering, I blew a .09. And someone asked about the cop's word against mine, I read the police report and it was complete copy & paste typical bullshit.

 

[Elwood70]

We finally recently got rid of a law where if you were riding a bike you were able to get one .....

MD still has that one,too......I once knew a guy that got a BWI.