How do pornstars make it through those brutal gangbangs shoots?

There is a massive market of men who enjoy exactly the opposite. Why else would there be people like Max Hardcore you think.

Not my cup of tea either, as I prefer not to see girls in pain, but if its all between consenting adults I dont really have a problem with it and just avoid it.

I agree about the market thing and demand.There is supply, because there is demand.I do avoid such thing like you, but I think might be some way out(besides drugs) by which public demand could be met, as well as the girl would be safe.Thank you for your feedback, Roald!!
 
I agree about the market thing and demand.There is supply, because there is demand.I do avoid such thing like you, but I think might be some way out(besides drugs) by which public demand could be met, as well as the girl would be safe.Thank you for your feedback, Roald!!

But who says the girls are not safe in the scenes you describe? And if the public demand is to see girls in pain (this doesnt equal not beging safe) or degraded then the issue is with the public. Not the producers or the girls.
 
It's always the same people shooting in this industry. I've met those people whom all the other girls meet and have met. It's not about being lucky: it's about not compromising with yourself in favor of more money.
If you do, like in ANY OTHER JOB in life, you might end up regretting it. Nothing to do with porn in particular.
What you don't understand is that many of those girls that you feel sorry for earn 200k $ a year and yet they do escort by choice because they want to earn more. Do they like it? Probably mostly not. But were they forced to do so? Absolutely not.

For a gangbang job there are on average 20 applications and gangbangs represent probably just a 1% of what's produced in porn valley: there's no pressure in having a girl doing gb "otherwise you're out of biz", believe me. It's a pure and mere personal choice. Some girls choose it because they like it, some others because they pretend to be whom they are not; this might not be good, but they can just blame themselves for it.

If you don't like porn you shouldn't be in it. Poor education and lack of degree are just an excuse and NEVER justify inflicting self humiliation or whining for no way out. I don't see justifications for poor ppl with no degree and education who
choose to go and rob and commit crimes.

You should see the attitude on set and off set of many of the girls that you sympathize for and then you would probably review your whole opinion about poor girls who got caught in porn.

Sabrina, first of all I want to say something I missed in my other post caught between numerous comments.I love you and your work.Have been a great fan of yours.
Thank you for taking your time and drafting the above post.Whatever I said, I didn't make it up.I've though interviews of some retired porno babes.They shared their gang bang experiences in a really scary way.No they don't belong to 80s or 90s.They are the ones who have retired early.Nadia Styles in one of them.There are some rumors that she's back, but not sure if that's true.
She clearly stated that some part of the industry was really horrible for her and she quit for a reason.
Below is a description of her experience in the industry
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11241232/Nadia-Styles-shares-her-story

The girl is just 30.If she liked she could have continued, but unavoidable situations didn't allow her to continue.It's not only her, many other girls have the same plight.What I mean to say is, things can't be alike everywhere.I'm not against porn industry.I am against abuse in disguised form and abuse can be seen even IT corporates, steel sector or even in Oval office.
If it exists anywhere, it should be protested.Corporate laws doesn't allow people to work beyond 8 hours or late nights, but you will see people slogging till 00:00 hours in many sectors , just because they are asked to meet the target in a particular time frame.Law defines it as abuse and against human rights, but the employers most of the time get away with it, because the employees are too insecure regarding losing their job and livelihood.Its sad, but its true.
 
But who says the girls are not safe in the scenes you describe? And if the public demand is to see girls in pain (this doesnt equal not beging safe) or degraded then the issue is with the public. Not the producers or the girls.

Some of the girls themselves admit it.I have refereed to an article buy Nadia Styles and even I had an you tube video(will find it out) of her where she had described how terrible her experience was in some cases. It might be the issue with the public, or the producer, but when it comes to the shoot, the girl is the one who's gonna do it.

Above all the below links tell some naked truth.
http://earthreview.eu/2012/04/abuse-in-the-porn-industry/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...velaces-tragic-life-modern-morality-tale.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-mcdonald-stagliano3-2008jul03,0,1018875.story

above all have a look if you can,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPDjRA3z3U




Oops, sorry for the multi comment.Should have edited the other post.Will take care in future.
 
Oh for pete's sake, now you're showing Shelly Lubben vids.

Nadia Styles got STDs and started using drugs and booze? No one made her do anything, she did it because she chose to. GMAFB.
 
Oh for pete's sake, now you're showing Shelly Lubben vids.

Nadia Styles got STDs and started using drugs and booze? No one made her do anything, she did it because she chose to. GMAFB.



What's wrong with Shelly Lubben things? Turning face away from reality doesn't make them any lesser real.
The reports are genuine and presented before you.If you still turn your face away from it, then it's nothing but in a state of denial.
It's all about abuse in industry and the footage tells it all.Women screaming and asking for mercy and all.

Will it be okay if I hire you as a construction worker and ask you and others to lift the 100lbs steel blocks one by one to the 20th floor all day, because my lifting mechanism is defunct ?

Come on, give yourself a F break!!
 

Aaliyah Love

Official Checked Star Member
blah blah blah all performers know what they're getting into, we all sign model releases and can stop the shooting at any time. Many times we DO, u just don't see it, it's called editing. Nobody is being forced to do anything. So just because YOU can't understand why someone would do something doesn't mean they don't see anything wrong with it, or maybe even enjoy it. So sit back and relax and enjoy the show and stop worrying about the "poor abused porn girls"
 
Sorry but the links just tell some sad stories. Of course there will be sad stories, it's the porn industry. It's not like we sell stuffed animals here. Sure the facial abuse story sounds painfull but come on, the site is called facial abuse what do you expect.

Btw I have no doubt that there are a lot of idiot abusive actors and producers but still sometimes the girls should do some research before getting into this industry.
 

Aaliyah Love

Official Checked Star Member
Some of the girls themselves admit it.I have refereed to an article buy Nadia Styles and even I had an you tube video(will find it out) of her where she had described how terrible her experience was in some cases. It might be the issue with the public, or the producer, but when it comes to the shoot, the girl is the one who's gonna do it.

Above all the below links tell some naked truth.
http://earthreview.eu/2012/04/abuse-in-the-porn-industry/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...velaces-tragic-life-modern-morality-tale.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-mcdonald-stagliano3-2008jul03,0,1018875.story

above all have a look if you can,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPDjRA3z3U




Oops, sorry for the multi comment.Should have edited the other post.Will take care in future.

Shelly Luben vids? really? this is where we are now? do your research about who this woman is and what her organization is REALLY about before you post this bullshit propaganda, please.
 
Shelly Luben vids? really? this is where we are now? do your research about who this woman is and what her organization is REALLY about before you post this bullshit propaganda, please.


Done it already.The footage tells it all if you can see.If you have anything else to say against her , care to enlighten!!

P.S: Don't take it on any religious terms.I am nothing close to any religion by the way.

It's not only her, there are numerous other instances.

Have a look if you can.

http://earthreview.eu/2012/04/abuse-in-the-porn-industry/


Sorry but the links just tell some sad stories. Of course there will be sad stories, it's the porn industry. It's not like we sell stuffed animals here. Sure the facial abuse story sounds painfull but come on, the site is called facial abuse what do you expect.

Btw I have no doubt that there are a lot of idiot abusive actors and producers but still sometimes the girls should do some research before getting into this industry.

Exactly!!
 
Shelly Luben vids? really? this is where we are now? do your research about who this woman is and what her organization is REALLY about before you post this bullshit propaganda, please.

A few more

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...velaces-tragic-life-modern-morality-tale.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-mcdonald-stagliano3-2008jul03,0,1018875.story

Do they all lie? I don't think so.

By the way, this thread was all about gang bangs and the brutality involved in porn, not anything against porn as a whole if you have missed the point.
Regarding your point of knowing what you'll be into while signing, is just like knowing the future for sure.You may know certain common things, but there are many other things that would go against your anticipation and the links above address those lucidly.

Not trying to be smart or anything.Just addressing a common issue where people deny that there is absolutely no abuse in porn industry.

Why?

Because I care.
 
because you care?

what's the point of this thread?

You've had two porn stars come on this thread and tell you that you don't know what you're talking about.

It's porn. There are going to be things on video that look worse than they are. It's called "acting."

Some girls can't handle having an 8 inch dick shoved down their gullet. You know what? They can quit at any time they like.

I have never heard of a US producer holding a gun to someone's head and forcing them to suck a dick.

But keep showing Shelly Lubben. Maybe she'll bang you if you ride that white horse into battle.

white-knights-white-knight-misandry-demotivational-posters-1338115723.jpg
 
A few more

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...velaces-tragic-life-modern-morality-tale.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-mcdonald-stagliano3-2008jul03,0,1018875.story

Do they all lie? I don't think so.

By the way, this thread was all about gang bangs and the brutality involved in porn, not anything against porn as a whole if you have missed the point.
Regarding your point of knowing what you'll be into while signing, is just like knowing the future for sure.You may know certain common things, but there are many other things that would go against your anticipation and the links above address those lucidly.

Not trying to be smart or anything.Just addressing a common issue where people deny that there is absolutely no abuse in porn industry.

Why?

Because I care.

Ome girls like it. Some don't. They'll find their way out. If you don't like it, don't watch it. And WTF is Shelly Lubben?
 

Aaliyah Love

Official Checked Star Member
A few more

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...velaces-tragic-life-modern-morality-tale.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-mcdonald-stagliano3-2008jul03,0,1018875.story

Do they all lie? I don't think so.

By the way, this thread was all about gang bangs and the brutality involved in porn, not anything against porn as a whole if you have missed the point.
Regarding your point of knowing what you'll be into while signing, is just like knowing the future for sure.You may know certain common things, but there are many other things that would go against your anticipation and the links above address those lucidly.

Not trying to be smart or anything.Just addressing a common issue where people deny that there is absolutely no abuse in porn industry.

Why?

Because I care.

You're right, you prob know WAY more about this stuff than I do. I've only been in the porn industry for 9 years. And you watched some Shelly Lubben propaganda. so I should prob just STFU now and take your word for it.

and what do you mean by "many other things that go against your anticipation" ..of what a scene is going to be like? um, not really.. If you're shooting for Facial Abuse you can look up a Facial Abuse scene and know exactly what you're getting into. You book a gangbang, you know what's going to happen. Everything is scripted and planned out and discussed before it happens. And like I said, us talent can stop shooting AT ANY TIME, and we often do. We also ACT..porn is ACTING with your clothes off. So if they're making you THINK they're being split wide open and getting abused (if that's the kind of scene it IS) then they've done their job at convincing you. But Sasha Gray did more than 1 gangbang scene in her career, NO? Well then, it must not of been that bad, she went back for more..

Men like you who "care," who are trying to save all of the poor abused porn stars, are referred to as "Captain Save A Hoe." I know your heart is probably in the right place, but come on dude. You're not winning any points with any of us girls. We actly hate it when you judge us and the things we do and act like you know better than us what is going on behind the scenes. you obv do not.
 
because you care?

what's the point of this thread?

You've had two porn stars come on this thread and tell you that you don't know what you're talking about.

It's porn. There are going to be things on video that look worse than they are. It's called "acting."

Some girls can't handle having an 8 inch dick shoved down their gullet. You know what? They can quit at any time they like.

I have never heard of a US producer holding a gun to someone's head and forcing them to suck a dick.

But keep showing Shelly Lubben. Maybe she'll bang you if you ride that white horse into battle.

white-knights-white-knight-misandry-demotivational-posters-1338115723.jpg

Well , I have given you other links to tell you how horrible things are(ignore Shelly Lubben) .If you don't see it then I'd say it's better be a white knight than not being a human.The point of this thread is, still several have to agree that things have gone down the sink at some point of time. No, they won't hold a gun on your head and ask you to carry on, things can be done in several other ways.Come on dude, stop being a denial.Shelly Lubben, may not bang me, but why are you so scared of her? If you have some evidences proving her point wrong, then show it up rather than beating up a dead horse.I am sure you haven't got any.
 
You're right, you prob know WAY more about this stuff than I do. I've only been in the porn industry for 9 years. And you watched some Shelly Lubben propaganda. so I should prob just STFU now and take your word for it.

and what do you mean by "many other things that go against your anticipation" ..of what a scene is going to be like? um, not really.. If you're shooting for Facial Abuse you can look up a Facial Abuse scene and know exactly what you're getting into. You book a gangbang, you know what's going to happen. Everything is scripted and planned out and discussed before it happens. And like I said, us talent can stop shooting AT ANY TIME, and we often do. We also ACT..porn is ACTING with your clothes off. So if they're making you THINK they're being split wide open and getting abused (if that's the kind of scene it IS) then they've done their job at convincing you. But Sasha Gray did more than 1 gangbang scene in her career, NO? Well then, it must not of been that bad, she went back for more..

Men like you who "care," who are trying to save all of the poor abused porn stars, are referred to as "Captain Save A Hoe." I know your heart is probably in the right place, but come on dude. You're not winning any points with any of us girls. We actly hate it when you judge us and the things we do and act like you know better than us what is going on behind the scenes. you obv do not.

There's a thing called freedom of 'Speech".So, I am no one to ask you to STFU.I am not here to win any point on any of you girls and I'm not judging.Still you didn't address my points, if you had gone through those Los Angeles times and UK mail links.They don't belong to Shelley Lubben org.Can you let me know if there any one workplace on earth which is free of abuse? The porn Industry is considered over here just because, this is a porn board.

I repeat, I'm not against porn, just against the inhuman acts involved, no matter how much you deny it.Just have a look at other links I have shared and for goodness sake, no need to get personal and call me out with names like "Captain save a Hoe" and what so ever.We can keep the discussion neutral.


how about you stop watching porn? since you feel so bad for the performers, that is.

more delicious gangbangs for me!


signed,

the black knight.


Dude, read it again from beginning.I'm not into your delicious gang bangs and this thread is against abuse and not porn itself.So good luck with everything u do.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
how about you stop watching porn? since you feel so bad for the performers, that is.

more delicious gangbangs for me!


signed,

the black knight.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
Dude, read it again from beginning.I'm not into your delicious gang bangs and this thread is against abuse and not porn itself.So good luck with everything u do.

i dont know what you want to hear. you got actual performers giving you the inside look on the truth of the matter.

you made your point. you dont like it. whoopie doo. well, a lot of us do and a lot of us dont. cookie?

if you cant wrap your head around the fact that some chicks actually like doing it, then i dont know what to tell you. right in this thread you have a real female performer who specializes in gangbangs and bukkakes and its usually done with no charge by her whatsoever. if that doesnt show you that she actually LIKES doing it, then im at a loss.

i still find it ironic you think the chicks are being abused yet you're here on a porn board arguing about it.

you're taking the fun out of porn, dammit. be off with you.



love,


the black knight



ps. i dont need your luck. i shit 4-leaf clovers regularly. :hatsoff:
 
Wow, so who's the referee here? Dude, boxers still go one on one.Not 20 on one. Funny how people approved this as an "Anal "-ogy or whatsoever.

The government is the referee via the director/producer of the movie. They can send you to jail. Ask Max hardcore or Rob Black. lol
Dude, it was an analogy. You'll understand when you're a bit older and no longer a white knight. I hope. lol
 
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