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dont tell me you believe that theory. tell me 1 Phoenic musician or scientist or philosopher. they were sailors.do you believe that they invent alphabet?
 

om3ga

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spidy said:
dont tell me you believe that theory. tell me 1 Phoenic musician or scientist or philosopher. they were sailors.do you believe that they invent alphabet?

I didn't want to get into a slanging match, but here goes:

DID YOU KNOW THAT:

Western/Latin and other alphabets come from the Phoenician alphabet?

Beritus or Berytus (modern Beirut, Lebanon) had a very important School of Law in the Roman Empire?

The Bible is called thus because it refers to the Phoenician city of Byblos?

King Solomon's great Temple was built in the style of Tyre's Melqart Temple by Phoenician artisans using the Cedars of Lebanon?

The Egyptian Pharoahs employed Phoenician cedar for their wood needs?

King Solomon, in his old age, became a worshipper of the Phoenician goddess Ashtarte?

Melchizedek, the King of Salem (King of Jerusalem) and Priest of the Most High God (El Elion), who offered bread and **** to Abraham, was Phoenician?

The Pentateuch (Moses' first five books, if not more, of the the Old Testament Bible, the Torah) was/were written down (transliterated) in Phoenician script?

Jesus Christ visited Phoenicia and among the first to believe in him was a Phoenician woman?

The bishops of all Phoenician cities were consecrated as bishops by the Apostles or their immediate successors?

Tyre, Sidon and other Phoenician Christian cities and towns provided rest-stops and shelters for the Apostles on their way to convert the world?

St. Jerome referred to Tyre as the place where St. Paul once knelt; and called Zarephath, Elijah's town?

Phoenicians circumnavigated Africa?

Phoenicians were the first to use the Pole Star for navigation?

Phoenicians were able traders throughout the Mediterranean?

Phoenicians colonized the far corners of the Mediterranean from the Island of Cyprus in the East to Spain and Gibraltar including the outer Atlantic coast and North Africa in the West?

The Phoenicians reached North America BC and Punic inscriptions in Massachusetts and Iowa confirm this fact?

In the Iliad and the Odyssey, Homer mentions Phoenicia, Phoenicians and Phoenician cities.

The Phoenician possessed the science or art of dentistry as evident by the fine braces on a lower jaw of a scull?

The Phoenician language is still spoken today in Malta (or Maltese is a mixture of Phoenician/Punic and other Mediterranean languages) ?

The Phoenicians raised elephants on farms?

The first parliament ever to convene in the Middle East met in the Phoenician confederate city of Tripoli?

Roman Emperor Septimius Severus (193 - 211 AD) descended from early Phoenician settlers and spoke with a Phoenician accent?

Pythagoras was Phoenician and was initiated into the 'Ancient Mysteries' of the Phoenicians c. 548 B.C. and studied for about 3 years in the temples of Tyre, Sidon, and Byblos and that his ****** was a Phoenician merchant from Tyre?

Thales of Miletus (who was half Phoenician), one of the first great scientists, is said to have forecast the solar eclipse of the year 585 BC.

Popes Anicetus (155 - 166 AD), John V (685-686 AD), Sergius I (687-701 AD) and Gregory III (741-752 AD) and Constantius were Phoenicians?

Aristotle held up the constitution of Carthage as a model.

St. Augustine was Phoenician. He wrote "...there was a great deal of virtue and wisdom in the Punic books".

St. Jerome believed Punic erotic poetry to be pernicious and described it as "lewd".

Many parts of the Old Testament were plagiarized from Phoenician literature, poetry, and religion, similar to plagiarizing of the Book of Job (for example ) from Babylonian tales?

Phoenician sacrifice of ******** to the gods was copied/practiced by many Semites such as Abraham's attempt to sacrifice his ***?

The Phoenicians had a rough knowledge about pi (3.1416) at the time of Hiram and the building of Solomon's Temple?

St. Frumentius, Phoenician from Tyre, converted Ethiopia to Christianity?

Mochus, a Sidonian, wrote a work on the atomic theory.

PS - by the way, you owe us a:

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cities like iliupoli in egups have greek names.they have found prohistoric villages about 7000bc.dont forget gramical A its have sumbols like B on it and it was older than this periods you mention.and im not slanging and platonas said something about Phoenicians wits you will find very interesting and the root of west languges are greek the 90% of scientistic words are greek.now what do you thing about atlantis
 
cities like iliupoli in egups have greek names.they have found prohistoric villages about 7000bc.dont forget gramical A its have sumbols like B on it and it was older than this periods you mention.and im not slanging and platonas said something about Phoenicians wits you will find very interesting and the root of west languges are greek the 90% of scientistic words are greek.now what do you thing about atlantis?
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...
spidy said:
cities like iliupoli in egups have greek names.they have found prohistoric villages about 7000bc.dont forget gramical A its have sumbols like B on it and it was older than this periods you mention.and im not slanging and platonas said something about Phoenicians wits you will find very interesting and the root of west languges are greek the 90% of scientistic words are greek.now what do you thing about atlantis?

:wtf:

Can you rephrase your last comment?
 
spidy said:
what do you thing about atlantis

What do you "thing" about reading the facts others provided (great work there om3ga), accepting you've been wrong, and trying to enhance your education. And while you're at it You Might just read up on spelling and grammar, since you seem to be quite interested in languages and their use.

No, I still don't think she's hot either ;)
 
i thing she's good looking woman,but i like more discutions on this thread :)
greek people means something for civilization,for the world we living in,so sometimes is good to remember where your roots are!
 
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om3ga

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spidy said:
Alexander the greate ir greek or not?:)

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Since you're being selective with the origins of global history, I guess some more education is in order:

Alexander III (late July, 356 BC–June 10, 323 BC), commonly known in the West as Alexander the Great or Alexander of Macedon, in Greek Megas Alexandros, King of Macedon (336 BC-323 BC). Alexander is known in some Eastern traditions such as Middle Persian literature as Alexander the Cursed due to his burning of the Persian capital and national library (one man's hero is another man's villain - but that would be opening up another can of worms involving differing perceptions in the Middle East and the West, and I don't even want to think about it).

Nebuchadrezzar (sometimes Nebuchadnezzar) II (ca. 605 BC - ca. 562 BC), perhaps the best known ruler of Babylon in the Neo-Babylonian Dynasty. He is (in)famous for his conquests of Judah and Jerusalem, in addition to his monumental building within his capital of Babylon. He is sometimes called "Nebuchadrezzar the Great", but because of his destruction of temples in Jerusalem and the conquest of Judah, he was vilified in the Bible and the appellation of "Great" did not survive in western contexts. In the Arabic world, and especially in Iraq, he is often considered to be the greatest king of Babylon, and was a frequent object of comparison in the self-aggrandizing propaganda of Saddam Hussein.

Menpehtyre Ramesses I (also written Ramses and Rameses) was the founding Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt's 19th dynasty. The dates for his short period on the throne are unclear, but 1320-1318 BC, 1295-1294 BC, or 1292-1290 BC are frequently given.

I don't know about you, but it appears that Ramesses & Nebuchadrezzar were around long before Alexander came on the scene. Still not convinced? Lets look at a few countries then:

China was one of the earliest centers of human civilization. The Chinese language was also one of the few languages to invent writing independently, the other languages being that of ancient Mesopotamia (Sumerians), the Mayans, India(Sanskrit),and Egypt. The first dynasty according to Chinese historical sources was the Xia dynasty; however there is no archaeological evidence definitively attesting a Xia dynasty (although some neolithic sites have been suggested to be such). The first confirmed dynasty is the Shang, who settled along the Huang He river, dating from the 18th to the 12th centuries BC. The Shang were in turn invaded by the Zhou (12th to 5th centuries BC), whose centralized authority was slowly eroded by the ceding of state-like authority to warlords ruling small states; eventually, in the Spring and Autumn period, many strong independent states, in continuous war, paid but nominal deference to the Zhou state as the Imperial centre. They were all unified under one emperor in 221 BC by Qin Shihuangdi, ushering in the Qin Dynasty, the first unified centralized Chinese state.

Archaeological research indicates that the earliest inhabitants of Japan migrated over land bridges from Korea and Siberia at least 30,000 years ago. Some may have also later come by sea from the Philippines and Polynesia. The first signs of civilization appeared around 10,000 BC with the Jomon culture, characterized by a Mesolithic to Neolithic semi-sedentary hunter-gatherer lifestyle of pit-dwelling and a rudimentary form of agriculture. Weaving was still unknown, and archaeological findings indicate that clothes were often made of bark. By 3,000 BC, however, the Jomon people were making clay figures and vessels decorated with patterns made by impressing the wet clay with braided or unbraided cord and sticks (jomon means "patterns of plaited cord"). This led to the manufacture of the earliest known form of pottery in the world.


I'm sorry, but while Greece is known as "the cradle of western civilization", - China and Egypt (to name but a few) had already established civilizations while Greece was nowhere.

Hell, even while Europe was developing in the Middle Ages, other parts of the world were doing likewise:

Mhunhumutapa or Monomotapa Empire was a medieval kingdom (reaching a peak around the 1440s) located in Southern Africa covering mainly the modern states of Zimbabwe and Mozambique. Its capital city was the Great Zimbabwe. Gold from Monomotapa reached the port of Sofala south of the Zambezi delta, where Arab traders waited. The Portuguese brought ***** to bear as early as 1505 to place the trade in Portuguese control, and the trade was well in hand, Fernand Braudel asserts, by 1513. The fabrics of Gujerat drew the gold to the coast. Pressures of trade with outsiders were transformed, Monotapa was riven by rival factions, and the gold panned from the rivers thinned out and disappeared. The trade in gold was replaced by a trade in slaves. Arabs regained the upper hand in Zanzibar and Kilwa, where the slave markets provided slaves for Arabia, Persia and India. The Portuguese were soon confined to a ***** presence in Mozambique.

Satisfied????

[edit] And I still don't think she's hot.....
 
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Once again :hatsoff: to om3ga for his intelligent and well-written posts. Can't rep you right now but will certainly do asap. Too bad your posts fall on deaf ears anyway...

The more often you look, the hotter she gets.
 

om3ga

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Vegas Yankee said:
Once again :hatsoff: to om3ga for his intelligent and well-written posts. Can't rep you right now but will certainly do asap. Too bad your posts fall on deaf ears anyway...

Thanks - to be honest, I'm glad I did the research. I didn't know that the Phoenicians apparently reached North America. I'm aware that the first Europeans to locate North America were the Vikings, who reached Newfoundland and called it Vinland.
 
Oh wise Hotrod ..bless us with some more of your wisened thoughts...


On a more serious note, it's great that I can finally learn about ancient history....I never thought it would happen here of all places.

BTW
Can someone start an argument about Algebra...I'm desperate for some revision on it. :hatsoff:
 
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