Is that written by Will E.?
Historic Bible pages put online
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Is that written by Will E.?
It just not seem like a legitimate argument to me that: God created our modern bible and it is absolute truth; therefore anything that contradicts that truth is inherently false.
You are forgetting that religious arguments dont need to be legitimate, rational or even make sense because god moves in mysterious ways.
I also hear he is an excellent figure skater...
... what can you say; he's a hell of a guy. :thumbsup:
He was one hell of a naval bad ass. "I have not yet begun to fight!"
What I want to know is if Jesus lived pre-first century and the Gospels were written by his disciples, then why is the earliest bible (New Testament) from the third century?
I think that it's fake, or just inaccurately dated. I think that the first New Testament bible (including most of the Gospels) was written around 500 years after Jesus lived... if he lived at all (it seems likely that there was such an individual cult leader at the time). I'm sure that there were many Christian groups before that time, but they either believed that Christ had not yet came, or that "he" had not been Jesus/ Jesus had just been one manifestation of "him" to which there have been others before and since then. The bible (both versions) is a combination of real history and fictionalized historical revision along with whole fantasy.
I think the reason that Jesus of Nazareth was written as the Christ was so that the contemporary figure that created the New Testament could proclaim that he was a descendant of the holy bloodine and/or the Messiah himself- which many other people have also done since.
I think that it's fake, or just inaccurately dated. I think that the first New Testament bible (including most of the Gospels) was written around 500 years after Jesus lived... if he lived at all (it seems likely that there was such an individual cult leader at the time). I'm sure that there were many Christian groups before that time, but they either believed that Christ had not yet came, or that "he" had not been Jesus/ Jesus had just been one manifestation of "him" to which there have been others before and since then. The bible (both versions) is a combination of real history and fictionalized historical revision along with whole fantasy.
I think the reason that Jesus of Nazareth was written as the Christ was so that the contemporary figure that created the New Testament could proclaim that he was a descendant of the holy bloodine and/or the Messiah himself- which many other people have also done since.
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You have to realize that the entire bible is a collection of books, stories, testamonies and whatnot. So it took awhile for all the writings of the New Testament to be gathered and put into the collection of what we have today.
Plus, if you look at different versions of the bible, each one while basically the same might have something another one left out. For the life of me I can't remember which version it is, but it has what is basically a love story between a human and an angel.
Plus, if you look at different versions of the bible, each one while basically the same might have something another one left out. For the life of me I can't remember which version it is, but it has what is basically a love story between a human and an angel.
An interesting series of shows to watch is the History Channel's "Banned From The Bible" which is about scripture that was not deemed includable into the current tome.
For examples:
The Gnostic Gospels
The Testament of Solomon
The Zohar (The Book of Splendor)
The Alphabet of Ben-Sira
Joseph and Aseneth
The Septuagint
Bel and the Dragon
The Acts of Peter
The Acts of Paul and Thecla
Mar Saba letter and The Secret Gospel of Mark
The Gospel of Judas
For examples:
The Gnostic Gospels
The Testament of Solomon
The Zohar (The Book of Splendor)
The Alphabet of Ben-Sira
Joseph and Aseneth
The Septuagint
Bel and the Dragon
The Acts of Peter
The Acts of Paul and Thecla
Mar Saba letter and The Secret Gospel of Mark
The Gospel of Judas
I'm not talking about the "bible" we all know that it didn't exist in it's complete form until much later, but I mean the original texts that make up the bible... they just aren't there.
Except for the letters of Paul, none of the apostles actually wrote anything in the bible and even the church admits that they are not the authors of the so-called "gospels" that are attributed to them. Conveniently the early church teachings were passed on only by word of mouth and not written down until centuries later. Supposedly the accounts of the apostles were written by people who knew them, but the "original" documents don't exist for these either.
All of those books that DW stated that are rejected by the church have the same historical validity as the ones in the bible, the difference is that they just picked and choose which ones they wanted to believe in.
The same goes for the "old" Testament, which I doubt predates at most 500 BC.
Except for the letters of Paul, none of the apostles actually wrote anything in the bible and even the church admits that they are not the authors of the so-called "gospels" that are attributed to them. Conveniently the early church teachings were passed on only by word of mouth and not written down until centuries later. Supposedly the accounts of the apostles were written by people who knew them, but the "original" documents don't exist for these either.
All of those books that DW stated that are rejected by the church have the same historical validity as the ones in the bible, the difference is that they just picked and choose which ones they wanted to believe in.
The same goes for the "old" Testament, which I doubt predates at most 500 BC.
It's weird that people who have studied Christian history know that there was no organized Christian religion before the foundation of the Catholic Church (Holy Roman Empire), a fact that the church makes no secret of... yet for some reason they don't have any problem accepting the view of history that it lays down back to the time of Jesus. Is it really such a stretch to think that it is just made up?
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