http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-running-for-president-says-campaign-chairmanHillary Clinton: I'm running for president
Former secretary of state and first lady begins campaign for 2016 White House with launch of new website, ending years of speculation about whether she would make a second attempt at the highest office in the United States
Hillary Clinton announced on Sunday that she was running for president of the United States, promising to be a champion of middle-class Americans if she made it to the White House as the country’s first female commander in chief.
“Everyday Americans need a champion, and I’m going to be that champion,” the former secretary of state and first lady said in a video posted to her website, as she warned “the deck is still stacked in favour of those at the top” despite an economic recovery.
Speaking to camera at the end of a three-minute clip featuring personal stories from Americans of different ages, ethnicities and sexualities, Clinton pledged to ensure people could “get ahead and stay ahead” rather than “just get by”.
In an email minutes earlier, John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, told people involved in her 2008 presidential campaign she was “hitting the road to Iowa to start talking directly with voters” before an official launch event next month.
She followed up the launch with a tweet:
Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
I'm running for president. Everyday Americans need a champion, and I want to be that champion. –H https://www.hillaryclinton.com
The announcement brought an end to years of speculation over whether Clinton would make a second bid to become the first female US president and secure a place in history by interrupting a line of 44 male commanders in chief.
It marked the official commencement of her final attempt to crack what she called the “the hardest, highest glass ceiling” after being defeated by Barack Obama in their bitterly fought contest for the Democratic nomination in 2008.
Clinton, 67, is seeking a fourth chapter in what is already an unprecedented career in American politics. She previously served as secretary of state and US senator for New York, as well as first lady when her husband, Bill, served two terms at the White House in the 1990s.
It is a record that makes Clinton one of the most enduring – and polarising – figures in American politics.
Clinton’s campaign aides concede that that her familiarity to voters and decades of experience on the frontline of politics are both an asset in her bid for the White House and a potential weakness, allowing her to be portrayed as a candidate from the past.
Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, who is brother and son to recent White House occupants George W and George HW Bush, is currently among the frontrunners in the crowded field of aspiring Republican candidates. His nomination could turn the 2016 presidential election into a battle between two of the most familiar – and controversial – family names in modern US history.
Moving immediately to counter suggestions that she expects a so-called coronation from her party this time, Clinton stressed in her video that she was returning to the campaign trail to “earn your vote”.
Clinton immediately began appealing for campaign volunteers in the important primary states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as well as in New York, where her campaign is to be headquartered in the Brooklyn Heights neighbourhood.
A campaign strategy document written by Clinton’s 35-year-old campaign manager, Robby Mook, and leaked to the press on the eve of her announcement instructed her staff to “take nothing for granted”.
“We are humble,” the memo said. “We are never afraid to lose, we always out-compete and fight for every vote we can win. We know this campaign will be won on the ground, in states.”
Clinton’s first trip as an official candidate will be to Iowa, the first-in-the-nation caucus state where she was pushed into third place by Obama and Senator John Edwards seven years ago, a humiliating setback from which she was unable to recover. One source familiar with Clinton’s campaign plans told the Guardian she could arrive in Iowa as early as Sunday afternoon.
Democrats in Iowa have reservations about Clinton, and are hostile to the idea that their role is simply to anoint the candidate-in-waiting whom they rejected eight years ago. But the lack of any credible Democratic challengers to Clinton, who will draw on a supremely well-organised and well-funded campaign structure, make an upset extremely unlikely.
Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts senator beloved by liberals in the party – and perhaps the only Democrat with the kind of enthused support that could defeat the Clinton juggernaut – has said she will not enter the race.
Ready For Warren, a campaign group which has urged the senator to run, said after Clinton’s announcement on Sunday that the party needed “vigorous debate” on subjects such as entitlements, banking reform and workers’ rights.
“Without Warren herself in the race, we may not get that chance,” the group said, pledging to step up its efforts to convince her.
Four men, none of whom have large followings in the party, have said they are exploring possible runs for the Democratic nomination: Martin O’Malley and Lincoln Chafee, the former governors of Maryland and Rhode Island; Jim Webb, the former senator from Virginia; and Bernie Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont and self-described socialist.
If any of them run, they would probably campaign to the left of Clinton, a centrist figure whose hawkish foreign policy is resented by some in the party.
A spokeswoman for O’Malley said in a statement that he had heard from Democrats “looking for someone who offers strong progressive values”, and would ensure a debate on policy if he entered the race.
Chafee on Sunday dismissed Clinton’s record at the State Department and sharply criticised her support as a senator for the Iraq war. “If you show lack of judgment, lack of doing your homework, then what can we expect in the future?” he said on CNN.
But Clinton enters the race with a formidable advantage and a wealth of support built up by the Ready for Hillary campaign network. She will immediately begin a fundraising push, drawing support from both small-money donors and Wall Street plutocrats, amassing what is likely to be the largest campaign war chest in presidential history. Her total haul is expected to exceed the billion-dollar campaigns in 2012 of Obama and his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney.
Clinton consistently polls higher than her potential Republican presidential rivals, sometimes reaching a 50% support threshold that fuels hopes among Democrats that she may prove impossible for the GOP to beat.
However, her support among voters has declined sharply since her departure from the State Department. While 67% of Americans then viewed her favourably as a possible presidential candidate, according to an ABC/Washington Post survey, now 49% do. She has suffered a marked drop in the number of people viewing her as “honest and trustworthy”.
Clinton faced a furore last month over the disclosure that as secretary of state she conducted government business over a personal email server. The decision allowed Clinton’s personal aides to sift through her messages and erase those they deemed irrelevant before handing over her archive to US officials for release as public records.
Republicans made clear in a statement on Sunday that they intend to paint Clinton as untrustworthy and dogged by controversy. “Over decades as a Washington insider, Clinton has left a trail of secrecy, scandal, and failed policies that can’t be erased from voters’ minds,” said Reince Priebus, the party’s chairman.
She has also been accused of leaving herself open to serious conflicts of interest by accepting millions of dollars in donations from foreign governments to her family’s philanthropic foundation while serving as America’s most senior diplomat.
The Democratic party establishment, however, is expected to unite behind Clinton as their presumptive nominee. The US electoral college will give Democrats an in-built advantage over Republicans in 2016, although it is extremely rare for a party to hold the White House for three consecutive terms.
Clinton’s frontrunner status means she will have to absorb relentless attacks in the 577 days remaining before the election. On Saturday, Obama gave Clinton a strongly worded endorsement. “She was an outstanding secretary of state,” the president said on a visit to Panama, when asked about her imminent announcement. “She is my friend. I think she would be an excellent president.”
Bush and other Republicans vying for their party’s presidential nomination attacked Clinton even before her campaign’s official unveiling. The former Florida governor’s online video, which was posted to Twitter, warned voters against a continuation of “the Obama-Clinton foreign policy”.
He also moved to challenge Clinton’s claim to be a champion of the middle class, arguing that his “conservative ideas” would be those that ensured all Americans had “the right to rise and the opportunity to achieve the American dream”.
Rand Paul said on Sunday morning he intended to draw attention to what he called “a history of the Clintons thinking that they’re above the law” in light of the controversy over her email server. Aligning Clinton with the “neocons in my party”, the Republican Kentucky senator also criticised her support for US intervention in Libya in 2011 and her push to arm rebels in the Syrian civil war.
Speaking to CNN, he argued that Clinton’s claims to fight for women’s equality were undermined by the acceptance of donations by the Clinton Foundation from authoritarian regimes in the Middle East with “abysmal human rights records”.
Rick Santorum, the former Pennsylvania senator who finished second in the 2012 Republican primary, said in a statement: “Hillary Clinton does not have the right vision to lead America.”
Hillary's official presidential bid announcement
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Therein lies the problem with the average American voter; we know it's bullshit, but we vote for it anyway. Republicans lap up promises made by their would-be and actual presidents to shrink the government - one Republican president in living memory has delivered on that* (Eisenhower, and he wouldn't even make it in today's Republican party - this would be a great opportunity for a link, but one can just Google any variation of government size/spending/budget/etc by president and see countless graphs). Democrats lap up promises made by their would-be and actual presidents of exactly the sort Hillary is dishing out - working for the little guy. Meanwhile income equality has ever increased under Democratic presidents*, especially Obama (even MSNBC admits it).
But people keep voting for their team all the same, like hamsters expecting to reach the end of that wheel some day.
* Both my critiques of the two parties are equally shared by the other; my distinction is only in their rhetoric against their own predictable behavior.
Hillary Clinton will not get my vote.
I suppose I'll just have to wait a while longer to see who the Libertarian and Green parties are putting up.
Do you know why ? Because both parties are financed by the big guy, the billionaires and the huge multinational companies. And 90% of the time, on federal election, the candidate that raises the most money wins. So they have to raise as much money as possible. And to raise that money, they have to please their donors.
I have to fight to not be apathetic
True, but on several occasions senate democrats have voted unanimously to overturn citizens united and get big money out of politics, while republican senators have voted unanimously to keep it. So while it's true that all are beholden to the big money contributors, only 1 side is actively working to keep it that way.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
This and the SCOTUS decision is what keeps big money in control of our government. I need to quit getting excited about any candidate because they are already bought and paid for by the time they reach this stage of the game.
Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
Had to update the mighty, mighty Chipotle thread. Hillary is really getting out there obviously more comfortable and natural around normal folks not wearing the luchador mask in front of potential voters anymore.
http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...e-A-Little-Overrated/page2&highlight=Chipotle
http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...e-A-Little-Overrated/page2&highlight=Chipotle
People die when they live in her village...like all these poor sapps... 1- James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement.
He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney- A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown ..
The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former White House Councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm.
Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. (He was about to testify against Hillary related to the records she refused to turn over to congress)
4 - Ron Brown- Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.
A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound.
At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley- Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992.
Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
7 - Ed Willey- Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head.
Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day His wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks- Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock …Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch- Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book"
of people which contained names of influential people who visited Prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.
He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11 - Kathy Ferguson -Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones Lawsuit, Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.
13 - Gandy Baugh- Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin- Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mean, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot Wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman- Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General.
Died Of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a Suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992.
She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mean Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority.
He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mean Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in His Washington DC apartment.
Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 - Jon Parnell Walker- Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 - Charles Meissner- Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and Brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr.- Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop.
He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins- Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 - Hershel Friday- Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry-Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation.
A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks.
Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks.
Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 - Keith McMaskle- Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 - James Milan- Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes"?
33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD. ALL DIED OF MYSTERIOUS CAUSES OR SUICIDE
36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Bret Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberger
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT? SURELY YOUR DELUSIONAL!
He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney- A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown ..
The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former White House Councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm.
Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. (He was about to testify against Hillary related to the records she refused to turn over to congress)
4 - Ron Brown- Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.
A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound.
At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley- Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992.
Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
7 - Ed Willey- Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head.
Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day His wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks- Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock …Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch- Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book"
of people which contained names of influential people who visited Prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.
He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11 - Kathy Ferguson -Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones Lawsuit, Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.
13 - Gandy Baugh- Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin- Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mean, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot Wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman- Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General.
Died Of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a Suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992.
She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mean Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority.
He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mean Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in His Washington DC apartment.
Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 - Jon Parnell Walker- Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 - Charles Meissner- Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and Brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr.- Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop.
He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins- Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 - Hershel Friday- Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry-Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation.
A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks.
Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks.
Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 - Keith McMaskle- Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 - James Milan- Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes"?
33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD. ALL DIED OF MYSTERIOUS CAUSES OR SUICIDE
36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Bret Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberger
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT? SURELY YOUR DELUSIONAL!
Supafly
Retired Mod
Don't forget your source, georges.
http://www.nachumlist.com/
I am sure they will manage to even paint your parents deceased Fido on Hillary eating a Hot Dog in 2014.
http://www.nachumlist.com/
I am sure they will manage to even paint your parents deceased Fido on Hillary eating a Hot Dog in 2014.
georges do you really believe she had something to do with that list of people dying? if you do then you need to have your head examined by an entire team of people.
I am no big fan of Hillary I think she is too much of a political animal and has too many debts that will be called upon if she wins. She isn't progressive anymore and won't be any big upgrade. She hasn't mentioned turning Obamacare into a single payer program like it should be, and she has too much money coming from defense contractors for me to trust she'd keep her nose out of conflicts that we need to stay out of. But just as I know GW Bush didn't orchestrate 9/11 even though he is a buffoon I hardly think she had anything to do with those deaths. Use your brain
I am no big fan of Hillary I think she is too much of a political animal and has too many debts that will be called upon if she wins. She isn't progressive anymore and won't be any big upgrade. She hasn't mentioned turning Obamacare into a single payer program like it should be, and she has too much money coming from defense contractors for me to trust she'd keep her nose out of conflicts that we need to stay out of. But just as I know GW Bush didn't orchestrate 9/11 even though he is a buffoon I hardly think she had anything to do with those deaths. Use your brain
xfire
New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
What, no Benghazi? You're slacking, Whore Heys. Lots of Iraqis and American soldiers died in the cluster fuck of Iraq, a country invaded after 3,000 Americans died when the Twin Towers fell, all on Bush's watch and I don't recall any fucking conservatives or the Fox Retard Channel trying to shove them all up his ass and blame him for their deaths. And here I thought the right wing derangement syndrome would simmer down after Obama, but all indications are to the contrary, Hillary Hate will make the Obama attacks seem mild.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Ha ha....GOTCHA!!! Some "source" huh? (and I'm no Hillary fan by any means). Nice one, supa! :thumbsup:
The best thing for the republican'ts was Obama getting elected. The corporations and wealthiest Americans have made more money than ever, he didn't touch gun laws and he's black so that alone got them all fired up! They call him a socialist but they can't name one socialist thing the man has done.
Hillary would probably do more things that they agree with than their own candidate would but they'll never admit it. They know their chances of another president are getting very slim so they'll rally around the negro and all of his failures, even if they have to make them up.
Hillary would probably do more things that they agree with than their own candidate would but they'll never admit it. They know their chances of another president are getting very slim so they'll rally around the negro and all of his failures, even if they have to make them up.
Bizzarely I have actually met Hilary Clinton in New York. I remember shaking her hand and thinking I wonder where that's been.
ApolloBalboa
Was King of the Board for a Day
I can tell you where it hasn't been (for some time); near Bill.
