Have you served???

Philbert

Banned
Just to point out an obvious fact...many military hate war...they are many of our best people.
It's the uninitiated that have such one sided and complete judgement on the subject, often using Hollywood movie scenarios, and opinions from selected people (Einstein? He was a math whiz, not a philosopher!), to slander those who have gone there and come back. Many didn't come back, but they left a legacy for those who did of ultimate sacrifice. No one can be forced to stand in combat, it's a gut decision how you react. If soldiers never complained the sun would fall from the sky and Hell would freeze in July...but when the shit happens people find the inner self and do what seems impossible to the outsider.
Political reality is far away from the battlefield.
Namreq is full of judgemental extremism, but has he served? You know that immediately from his words, and extremist philosophy.
I am a lazy fuck, no doubt about that...but when I need to get something important done over a period of hours or months or years I do it without reservation...like caring for my dogs when I was a breeder, or my daughter when she was a newborn, or losing everything and starting over.
If I needed to deal with something as hard as a year or more of military engagement I wouldn't want to, believe me...but I'd do it when it was time, and make it to the other side if I could...the other side being home, family, and I can't believe I'm still alive!
I salute anyone who did their time dealing with idiots, nasty places to be, govenment BS and regulations, and mean folks who wanted to see your "inner self" blown to the four directions, and still kept it together.
Warriors make it possible for philosophers to exist and philosophize; just don't expect non-military to get the whole experience and be the least bit grateful.
 
Current serving uk armed forces. not directly shot at but been under rocket bombardment countless times. Not fun and massive respect to any soldier, allie or enemy in any war before and current that did.

Namreg you will earn contempt from everywhere. very narrow minded (do not take offense here americans!!) Like alot of your breathern you obviously think yours is the only country in the world. I have worked with troops, technicians from plenty of other countries including your own, and infantry men deserve nothing but respect for doing what they do, it is a very dangerous jobs with no rewards if it all goes wrong. unlike all the people incharge of the banks , well done you fucked up have a million quid bonus. unlike troops well done you were unlucky here's your coffin or fake leg.

You are entiltledto your opinions. But the fact you cant respect forces personel is just plain sad after all you voted to elect your old government.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I did - but not in an Army.

Worked for peanuts in a center for people with disabilities for 7 years.
 
NO
Dont mind having to if called upon.
 
Namreg you will earn contempt from everywhere. very narrow minded (do not take offense here americans!!) Like alot of your breathern you obviously think yours is the only country in the world. I have worked with troops, technicians from plenty of other countries including your own, and infantry men deserve nothing but respect for doing what they do, it is a very dangerous jobs with no rewards if it all goes wrong. unlike all the people incharge of the banks , well done you fucked up have a million quid bonus. unlike troops well done you were unlucky here's your coffin or fake leg.

I'm about American as you can get brother, and I've worked with "Desert Rats" over in Iraq. One thing you got correct with that is that American Mindset my friend. I will agree a majority of us, across the seas (yup talking about us "yanks") will always have that small vision concept. Only a select few will even go out and say you are right, but brother, I fully agree with what you said. I've read some of the UK tactics, and man you guys have some of the tightest shot groups in the world, my hat's off to you man. UK has taught me a lot being in the US Army, I just want to say thanks, and tell all your mates that you found one "yank" who's global minded.

Also for the banks, can't help you much there, finance isn't my thing. All I know is that this economy is a global issue, since all of us are slowly spiraling down. I just hope it doesn't go like late 1920's, because that would seriously break down a lot of people... also it would probably take another global war to get us out of that too. Just my :2 cents:
 
We used to have mandatory service,so I have done ten month back when we had a real army.
The current government has changed it to a professional army which is practically nonexisting because almost everybody is in Afghanistan.
I fear we are going to join Nato during the next four years if we don't get a new government on sunday.
 
Never served....
not fit for it actually
great respect for the people who do/did serve...cutting across borders..

on the matter of RoEs....i'd just say some people have different ones..thats all
Do i agree with the invasion of iraq......well reading news about intelligence that was more fabricated than gathered ....hell no...thats another thread i suppose....
 
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