Has PornstarsPunishment gone too far?

[GibbsGrad2002]

I think it has

 

[BBGRob]

I'm not into the whole punishment thing at all. The abusive scenes are a big turn off for me. Personally if you need to control your lover that much you've got other issues that need dealt with LOL!

 

[DJCowboy]

i did a scene with james deen once and he's a cool dude. we both took turns whipping india summers ass and had a great time. however in between scenes we would chill, rub her shoulders, and unwind from the action a bit and be our normal selves. you gotta realize its just a movie guys. and all the talent is sane else they would have been asked to leave without pay. i don't think you guys realize that models are not as fragile as they look. most workout like beasts and could easily kick the average mans ass, they are tougher than you think

:dito:

I don't mind watching rough scenes like that because it's just a fantasy thing. Weird thing is that when I'm having sex, I like for her to be in control and I like to be tied up and stuff like that.

 

[maildude]

I'm tired of this kind of shit.

 

[Cuffin]

hell no

 

[josecisco]

It is only a fantasy i like this site

 

[benihime275]

i love that site

 

[smoknn]

burger king wasnt hiring??:dunno:

 

[Jds23]

In my opinion, if it looks like the girl is uncomfortable or bring treated hatefully, they have gone too far. Even if she agreed to do it.

I mean, rough sex is one thing. But why is the focus so much on hurting, or humiliating the girl? That's going too far. Because, I sincerely doubt that many of these women truly want to be treated that way, judging by many of their reactions. Some maybe do, but many look as though they don't appreciate it. I also don't see why it appeals to guys, to bring discomfort or humiliate them. Your fantasy is to abuse a somewhat unwilling girl? It's like you don't want to call it rape, but you want something with all the same elements and reactions from the girl. That's pretty sick.

 

[Jds23]

It's porn and the people watching it are supposed to be adults with enough restraint & common sense to know it's merely a fantasy. I wanted to give a nice example of hentai & the ages of the characters it involves, but I think that'd be a breach of some board rule, so I'll refrain from doing so.

Supposed to be, yeah. But look at the kind of crap that "adults" end up doing. But I kind of think that's beside the point.

It doesn't relieve me to think this is "only fantasy" in the minds of some, I find that troubling. It's okay to have a fantasy about abusing someone while they suffer a genuine display of discomfort and humiliation. That's the message this sends across, that's the "fantasy" you seem to condone - abusive, hateful, misogynistic sex.

An example I can give (& which has nothing to do with porn) is Terminator (or Predator, or many other action movies). Just like porn, they usually do not send a decent message across & are merely meant to satisfy our darker urges.

Not quite. People don't watch the Terminator because they have some deep desire to kill in cold blood. That story has some substance to it, and in the end, sends the classic message of good triumphing over evil, as almost every story does. However, this porn is about a desire to hurt, humiliate, degrade, to torture and mistreat. To be evil. It's a "fantasy" of that.

This is more in common with something with no substance, like Saw. Most people who watch it, do so because they're drawn to the dark, gory depictions of sadistic murder. It's a tasteless gore film with a weak story. There's nothing scary about me saying there's something a bit wrong with the psychology of a person who's "into" something like that.

Who are we to say what is right & what is wrong & where would we draw the line? If this is too much for some people, then what about BDSM, femdom or many other fetishes? Heck, maybe someone will say that watching videos from peepeebabes is wrong or that girls in latex/spandex suits are wrong...

I'd say our humanity depends on knowing where to draw the line, when our consciences tell us "this is wrong". It's what sets us apart as humans, and what keeps us together as a society. We would never survive in an anarchical state where moral relativity reigned and everything went.

However, as long as a girl agrees to do something, there's nothing wrong with it (as long as it isn't illegal of course).

So by that logic, if she agrees to simply be beat up by a bunch of guys, blackened eyes, bloody nose etc... It should be okay to carry that out, as long as she says she'll do it for the money?

 

[Baill Inneraora]

Yes it's too far. It's border line rape fantasy.

 

[Ghaleon]

The main thing that bothers me are the fans of this genre. As mentioned previously in this topic there are some guys that prefer punishment stuff over normal/mainstream stuff. Clearly they need help.

 

[Ruddiger]

Certain types of porn is a bit too much for me to deal with. I love porn but there certain kinds of porn which is difficult for me to stomach. I clicked on the link and scrolled around the site and I tend to agree with you.

A few days ago when I was checking out Tiffany Mynx's freeones page it showed a link of her doing some light bondage and punishment. I thought I could handle it but I couldn't.

 

[raiden594]

You can point many fingers when it comes to stuff like this. Of course, it's easy to blame the producers of this stuff, but I think the female talent making themselves available for this niche are just as much to blame if you're gonna do it. The dicks will follow the chicks. If the ladies stood together and said "this is too much" and didn't take the work, there'd be no product.

But we know that will never happen. There will always be someone crazy enough or broke enough to keep the wheels turning.

 

[max0rz]

News just in folks (well actually late July, but anywho)

Dear Members,
As you may have noticed, Pornstars Punishment is no longer active. The Brazzers Team feels that the site has run its course, and we have decided to remove the site from our network.

Our focus will be directed more towards providing new content derived from new sites and series in the coming months.
We appreciate your feedback, and always keep it in mind when determining the fate of sites and products, and while developing new ones as well.

The satisfaction of our members is of upmost importance to us, and we are always looking to meet and exceed your expectations. Like always, we will continue to produce the best exclusive adult content available anywhere, and look forward to revealing some incredible projects we’ve been working on.

We apologize for any inconvenience.
The Brazzers Team

http://www.brazzersforum.com/showthread.php?18788-Pornstars-Punishment-Removal&p=420537

 

[Gape_Fan]

Oh well. For the record, the Lylith Lavey scene was one of the best porn scenes ever.

Can't they just put a disclaimer saying "No porn stars were hurt in the making of this porn". Maybe with a pic of one of them smiling as the go to the cash point to get their payments...?

 

[brodkill]

to me pornstar punishment was one of the worst porn sites ever. i never could understand why a female pornstar would want to shoot a scene for that site. i always thought that it was degrading to woman, and told people that ok to do. just because it was a pornsite and was fake, it still was not a good idea for a porn site.

i have heard that some woman are turned on by the fantasy of a man taking advantage of them, and each to there own. but those kind of fantasy's should have never been made into a website. the site basically said r**e was ok and that brazzers condoned it.

i know that brazzers is a crappy porn site, with the same unattractive overused male pornstars, but pornstar punishment brought them down even further. pornstar punishment was the main reason i never liked brazzers and would never get a membership to there site.

plus, james deen, i do not have any respect for him because he was in so many scenes for pornstar punishment, i was never a fan of his, but the little respect that i had for him was lost when i first saw him on the site

so, here is a good question. now that brazzers has shut down pornstar punishment, what about all the other sites on the web, that have photo galleries and host video clips of the scenes from the site? they honestly cant all be shut down, so having brazzers shut the site down is just tip of the ice burg when it comes to solving this problem. even if somehow they were to get every single reference to the site of the web, someone or some people would be bound to find a way to put the shit back up on the web

 

[darthtexan]

Ive only seen a few of thier scenes - the ones with Raylene and Lisa Ann. They dont bother me. I think they do a good job of mixing reality and fantasy in thier acting. Its just real enough that it is exciting, but just fake enough that it doesnt get disturbing. Thier ARE porn sites that go too far for me. Facial Abuse, Max Hardcore, Meatholes, and some of the stuff on the Public Disgrace sites. I espeacially dont like extreme humiliation.

 

[John_8581]

Oh well. For the record, the Lylith Lavey scene was one of the best porn scenes ever.

Can't they just put a disclaimer saying "No porn stars were hurt in the making of this porn". Maybe with a pic of one of them smiling as the go to the cash point to get their payments...?

Gape_Fan -- The Pornstar Punishment site is off the network!! ... And brodkill. REP for you! :thumbsup: You've got exactly right for the reasons you've mentioned.

 

[John_8581]

Here is what I wrote at another forum:

Not surprising. The Brazzers and Mofos forum members have been talking about the potential loss of this site. There is a huge following for this sort of twisted kink. You'd be surprised how many dirtbags there are over there posting. Those who enjoy simulated rape, abuse, and brutality.

Though it is not ccbill or any of the other ISPs. It is actually Visa themselves. They have alot of control over what goes on behind the scenes. Visa has been complaining about this website for months. I'm glad they acted. [If Brazzers loses Visa, then Manwin (the parent company) will be hurt financially.]

I guess that leaves James Deen's calendar free.

Though seriously, as I've said it before. With Pornstar Punishment, Brazzers was wasting his talent over there. James Deen has gone from 157 overall scenes down to a mere 129 scenes.

The other "featured" male star on PP, Nacho Vidal is down to only four scenes. Yes four.