Has lacey duvalle gone crazy???
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She has gone desperate & fallen prey to the producers of violent porn.The same thing is happening to Teagan.Abuse is abuse.-White on Black & Black on White seems to be the avenue these producers are taking for added shock value.-And gangbangs are not sexy.--All producers & directors should be like Peter North...Videos with more FFM or FFFM !!.........action--I am in interested in seeing the Women,,,not several knotheads jerking off while one guy chokes the Girl...You are right Thugz...fucked up.thugz_passion said:
Everyone is talking about Lacey, but what about these guys that are doing these types of things and then publishing it for the public to view? Lacey may have made the decision to do the scene having an idea of what was going to happen. But I assume she didn't truly know. Now, there is a term in psychology that describes this situation IMO. I forget the exact term, but it basically refers to a situation where you get a person to perform a simple task. Once they comply, you get them to do another one which is slightly more involved. This keeps going at a gradual pace until the person is doing things they would never normally do. Apparently it is very hard to pull out of this situation once you are caught up in it. I believe that once Lacey realised what she had done (after it was over) she felt the true extent of what happened and felt ashamed and humiliated.
Now back to my original point, these guys are the true blame for this scene, as well as many others. There should be standards for women in porn which look out for their benefit, even if they don't care about themselves. Society's view of hookers may be that they are prostitutes and that they are worthless anyway. But they are somebody's daughter, or even somebody's mother. Who knows what they get themselves into and then have porn as an only means of income. They are human and they have the same rights as the rest of us. There should be standards set into place by the porn industry and for the porn industry, and I understand that some people like this type of "rough" sex. But I think this goes beyond rough. This is abuse and it should not be allowed into the mainstream porn market. This type of scene gives porn a bad name, forces tighter restrictions on all studios and performers. The 2257 act is one example where pornstars no longer have any privacy as to their true identity. This is all because of a few bad apples that have spoiled the bunch. I think that this "rough" porn will only tighten the noose around the porn industry and give the government even more incentive to butt in. Rough puke/gag porn is about one step above a fake snuff video. I would also like to add, that any stimulation the brain recieves during an orgasm is permanently engraved. That stimulation will always be required and will always cause arousal. It actually changes the chemistry of your brain.
(If I remember the psychological term I'll post it. For now you'll just have to settle with my shabby description.)
Now back to my original point, these guys are the true blame for this scene, as well as many others. There should be standards for women in porn which look out for their benefit, even if they don't care about themselves. Society's view of hookers may be that they are prostitutes and that they are worthless anyway. But they are somebody's daughter, or even somebody's mother. Who knows what they get themselves into and then have porn as an only means of income. They are human and they have the same rights as the rest of us. There should be standards set into place by the porn industry and for the porn industry, and I understand that some people like this type of "rough" sex. But I think this goes beyond rough. This is abuse and it should not be allowed into the mainstream porn market. This type of scene gives porn a bad name, forces tighter restrictions on all studios and performers. The 2257 act is one example where pornstars no longer have any privacy as to their true identity. This is all because of a few bad apples that have spoiled the bunch. I think that this "rough" porn will only tighten the noose around the porn industry and give the government even more incentive to butt in. Rough puke/gag porn is about one step above a fake snuff video. I would also like to add, that any stimulation the brain recieves during an orgasm is permanently engraved. That stimulation will always be required and will always cause arousal. It actually changes the chemistry of your brain.
(If I remember the psychological term I'll post it. For now you'll just have to settle with my shabby description.)
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Incredibly well thought out, well presented, and extremely well said, superfly2!
:bowdown: :hatsoff: :bowdown:
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Oh... and just from my limited knowledge of the field, it almost sounds like you're talking about "conditioning" (e.g., the Pavlovian experiment; i.e., Pavlov's dog...)
Could that be it... or is it something entirely different that you're thinking of?
Incredibly well thought out, well presented, and extremely well said, superfly2!
:bowdown: :hatsoff: :bowdown:
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Oh... and just from my limited knowledge of the field, it almost sounds like you're talking about "conditioning" (e.g., the Pavlovian experiment; i.e., Pavlov's dog...)
Could that be it... or is it something entirely different that you're thinking of?
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It's not only affecting white or black women. Hispanic and Asian women are subjected to this disgusting mess as well. Not long ago we came across a Site that had quite a few popular Asian actresses (Jade Martin-Hsu, Mika Tan, Cris Taliana... to name only a few) who were subjected to the same stuff as well.
I personally find it completely sickening... but then again, it's just my opinion in a world of many various voices. I do completely agree with superfly2's reasoning. Granted, the almighty dollar may be the occasional motivating factor, but I honestly feel that no self-respecting woman (my apologies to those women who do enjoy extremely brutal treatment such as this...) would willingly subject herself to this type of treament unless she was coerced, threatened in some way (and not just the "physical" type of threat, either... I'm talking things like, 'career', financial', 'emotional', etc.), or somehow otherwise conditioned to accept a role such as this.
And then again... there could be quite a few mitigating factors that none of us are aware of or privvy to. Maybe she did it for money or career enhancement... or maybe she didn't. Maybe she did it because she was somehow forced or threatened... or maybe she wasn't. I doubt we'll ever truly know.
I, for one, think porn of this dubious "quality" should be shit-canned and the people who make it should be strung up by their balls and have a hot poker rammed up their ass, honestly. Let them see how it feels to be humiliated, raped, or otherwise abused. Again, only my personal opinion...
Needless to say, I'm not going to offer any further comments about this subject. It's way too inflammatory and tempers can heat up rather quickly.
Just suffice it to say that if enough people quit buying it or viewing it, the demand will eventually disappear. Unfortunately, it's now become somewhat popular to see women mistreated in some way. Just look at how often the subject comes up on here...
I personally find it completely sickening... but then again, it's just my opinion in a world of many various voices. I do completely agree with superfly2's reasoning. Granted, the almighty dollar may be the occasional motivating factor, but I honestly feel that no self-respecting woman (my apologies to those women who do enjoy extremely brutal treatment such as this...) would willingly subject herself to this type of treament unless she was coerced, threatened in some way (and not just the "physical" type of threat, either... I'm talking things like, 'career', financial', 'emotional', etc.), or somehow otherwise conditioned to accept a role such as this.
And then again... there could be quite a few mitigating factors that none of us are aware of or privvy to. Maybe she did it for money or career enhancement... or maybe she didn't. Maybe she did it because she was somehow forced or threatened... or maybe she wasn't. I doubt we'll ever truly know.
I, for one, think porn of this dubious "quality" should be shit-canned and the people who make it should be strung up by their balls and have a hot poker rammed up their ass, honestly. Let them see how it feels to be humiliated, raped, or otherwise abused. Again, only my personal opinion...
Needless to say, I'm not going to offer any further comments about this subject. It's way too inflammatory and tempers can heat up rather quickly.
Just suffice it to say that if enough people quit buying it or viewing it, the demand will eventually disappear. Unfortunately, it's now become somewhat popular to see women mistreated in some way. Just look at how often the subject comes up on here...
The phenomenon superfly2 mentioned is a problem with hardcore in general. If a girl flashes her boobies, it's not a big deal. If a girl flashes her cooch, it becomes very difficult to get into mainstream modeling. But if a girl does hardcore, she can forget about mainstream because she's been typecast and nobody wants that kind of model. Given that many models don't have many other skills, once you've gone hardcore, you never get out. That's why I get ticked off when people say "<insert name> should bend over and do hardcore!!!" about centerfolds. It's a dead end (and disrespectful, IMO).
The typecasting above is the reason why asianchick's suggestion of having standards for porno isn't going to happen for a very long time. Such standards would need some sort of government input, otherwise there won't be uniform adoption and the scum filmographers persist. But with things like healthcare, education, etc. dominating the scene, the welfare of pornstars is rather low on their list of priorities. Not to mention the fact that most people of the baby boomer generation have rather low regard for adult models of any kind.
Makes me wonder what will happen to most of today's models, hardcore or otherwise, once they get too old to perform. Jenna Jameson made a million and was smart enough to invest it. Few are as prolific, and nobody has ever had her star power.
Now I feel bad.
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The typecasting above is the reason why asianchick's suggestion of having standards for porno isn't going to happen for a very long time. Such standards would need some sort of government input, otherwise there won't be uniform adoption and the scum filmographers persist. But with things like healthcare, education, etc. dominating the scene, the welfare of pornstars is rather low on their list of priorities. Not to mention the fact that most people of the baby boomer generation have rather low regard for adult models of any kind.
Makes me wonder what will happen to most of today's models, hardcore or otherwise, once they get too old to perform. Jenna Jameson made a million and was smart enough to invest it. Few are as prolific, and nobody has ever had her star power.
Now I feel bad.
:crying:
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dragonturtle said:
I'm not trying to be nit-picky, but where in my post did you read anything about me suggesting "standards in porn"? I was making a commentary on how I felt about and viewed certain production companies such as "Throat Gaggers" and their ilk. As a whole, I truly believe the porn industry affords a healthy environment. However, as with life in general, there are certain elements that we can most assuredly do without.
Stating an opinion of a certain facet of the porn industry and calling for standards / reformations across the industry are two different issues... to wit: the former of which I was referring and the latter being something I have no interest in or could care less about.
What I did say, was that it's a shame that the women subject themselves - be it through being coerced in some way or strictly voluntary behaviour - to this sort of treatment. If you're not a woman, then you can't possibly or truly understand what it is to be treated in that fashion.... hence, my statement about stringing them up by the balls and ramming a hot poker up their ass. Nowhere in those few paragraphs I wrote does it mention standards, reformation, or governmenal input.
You wrote a very eloquent post, by the way, dragonturtle... and I take issue with only the one thing I pointed out: Please, don't put words in my mouth that I did not say or imply. I don't like being misquoted or having things attributed to me that were not implied or stated.
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om3ga
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Ignoring the comment from tannerm, AsianxxxChick, superfly2 & dragonturtle have made good points. With characters like Max Hardcore in the porn industry treating women like meat, we shouldn't be suprised that videos like Lacey's will find a market.
Supply meeting demand unfortunately....
Supply meeting demand unfortunately....
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And that, my good friend, was exactly my point. :hatsoff:
When the demand for an item increases by 'x' factor, then obviously the supply will increase exponentially as well. When the popularity dies off and the demand for it decreases, then naturally the supply drops off to nil.
Good one, sir... good one. :thumbsup:
When the demand for an item increases by 'x' factor, then obviously the supply will increase exponentially as well. When the popularity dies off and the demand for it decreases, then naturally the supply drops off to nil.
Good one, sir... good one. :thumbsup:
I don't know Chick, if these guys think there's a market for it then they'll probably do it.
Great points by all who posted, except of course that oxygen thief tannerm who will be dealt with in due time.
But seriously, have y'all ever just considered this might just be a marketing angle. Marketing to neanderthal degenerates but marketing nonetheless.?
Peter Gazinya said:
To a degree, it certainly is (wording, picture choice etc.). Still, there is overly rough, aggressive, and humiliating demeanor and at least some of it can't be staged IMO.
I could go on for quite a while about this but then I couldn't say anything better than what AsianXXXchick and Superfly posted. Brilliant posts from both of you. :hatsoff:
this is what is wrong with black girls in porn. they get treated like shit just to try to make it big, but there really just involved with the wrong people. very sad.
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ilovepornpics said:
Y'know... why does it always have to be about the color of a person's skin?? For once, take it for what it is and remove the color issue.
It's not just about "black" women, or "Latinas" or "Asians" or even white women...
IT'S ABOUT RESPECT. Let me ask you this, Ilovepornpics:
How would you feel - you, personally - if you saw a woman you knew - or even once loved - (regardless of the color of her skin...) on the television screen being treated this way?
Wouldn't it piss you off? Wouldn't you have some measure of sympathy or pity for her? Wouldn't you feel fucking horrible knowing that she's being humiliated, debased, or maybe even forced to do this disgusting shit (even IF she agreed to do it voluntarily doesn't make any less degrading, humiliating, or vile...); wouldn't that make you feel something for her beyond the fact that she's a woman of color?
It happens to all colors and races, Ilovepornpics...
For once, just erase the damned color lines and look at it from a woman's perspective, Just ONCE.
ENOUGH SAID.
@ Gazinya...
You do have a point... unfortunately. And that's the very reason why those who disagree with this vile, disgusting shit should make a stand and refuse to buy it, view it, or otherwise indulge in it. The less demand there is, the greater the likelihood that slimeballs like these will eventually lose their asses and disappear back into the sewers from which they came.
chill out brother. this topic was about her, a black chick. therefore thats why i used black girls as an example. i am on there side, i don't like the way they treat black girls. they do not treat white girls that way unless they like it. that was my point. you obviously have issues with this subject bigger than the topic of this website so you need to deal with it some other way. people like you ruin these forums by taking something small and blowing it up. congradulations, for looking like an ass!
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ilovepornpics said:
Does the name "AsianxxxChick" give you any kind of a clue? I am a FEMALE not a MALE.
And no, I have no issues with racism other than off-topic and ignorant statements like the one you posted. Yes, the topic was about Lacey, however it expanded into a LARGER view - or did ya just not read it carefully? - of the entire situation. And NO... it does not affect just "black women"... women of every color, hue, shape, and size have been the focus of these types of films.
You made a statement that was racially incendiary. I merely stated that such a statement was inappropriate and it wasn't about the COLOR of a person's skin. I respected you - quite politely, too - all the way through my entire response. Obviously, you are the one who's blowing up larger than it needs to be.
You really need to take an extremely deep breath and get out a little bit more and associate with people in the real world. You're the only one acting in a negative manner and slinging back-handed insults at people.
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