Group Plans To Picket Va. Tech Funerals

[nylo]

Has anyone heard about this lunatic group? These people are out of their fucking minds, they are anti-gay group and they are going to picket the funerals from the VT massarce. How sick can you be? Don't they have any respect for anyone? Other than their lunatic ideals?

"The organization, founded and led by Fred Phelps, believes the United States has condemned itself to destruction by accepting homosexuality and other “sins of the flesh.” Phelps’ daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, said the Virginia Tech teachers and students who died on Monday brought their fate upon themselves by not being true Christians. "

Who the fuck are they to condemn these people this way? They are probably a bunch of hypocrites themselves and sound to me like they need to beaten the shit out of. And if you read about their leader Fred Phelps, he's a real nut job. Personally I don't care what homosexuals do and actually I have a few as friends, and who cares what they do? But this just fired me up so much, i can't stand people like this that condemn people because they aren't just like them or act like them and etc etc etc

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/18/national/main2699800.shtml


Fred Phelps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

 

[Imagine]

So, could everyone who is surprised Mr. Phelps is doing something like this raise a hand? Hell, could everyone who didn't know he was the guy this thread was going to be about just from the thread title raise their hands?

How sick can you be? Don't they have any respect for anyone?

Short answer; no. Incidentally, that's also the long answer. Their site is a fascinating read to be sure. I feel dumber for having read it, they are complete nuts, but fascinating nontheless.

 

[blakey]

Couldn't agree more nylo - those people are totally out of their minds, they also protest at US soldiers' funerals

they basically hate everyone who is not in their group and say we're all going straight to hell - the most scary thing is they have a lot of kids who they bring up with their intolerant views and take to their pickets

any UK members may have caught an interesting recent TV documentary by Louis Theroux about Phelps & Co - it was a good programme but sad, scary, upsetting etc. too

 

[McRocket]

He's 77. He is either senile or deluded with idiot followers or both.

Just politely ignore him until he dies.

IMO, mentally unbalanced people hate to be ignored.

 

[member2013]

Many heterosexual men seem to have such an abnormal obsession with homosexuality, which I sometimes say what would they do with themselves: if homosexuality didn’t exist? I asseverate: that a firm-conviction in a religion, displays a lack of emotional, and intellectual-maturity: in those that are-convicted.

It is solemnly-excusable, for example, for a thirteen-year-old boy to mimic, and parrot the dogma in which he has been brainwashed in, and pseudo-convinced, with.

It is not excusable for adult-men that have had a chance to, ‘go-around-the-block,’ in this existence: and mature, and broaden themselves, intellectually – to act in this manner.

 

[BNF]

Just politely ignore him until he dies.

IMO, mentally unbalanced people hate to be ignored.

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[Philbert]

Nylo, I must admit...I am dissappointed.
Emotion aside, do you really feel this way, or are you annoyed with the image of these people upsetting mourners, and need to vent?
'Cause these people may be wrong, and they may be really rude, and they may infuriate me as much as they do you...but I have no doubt they believe what they are saying.
I think they really do see the punishment of a vengeful God being visited on Sodom, and they are trying to warn us and, by definition, to save us from God's wrath.
Whether they are saintly or assholes only matters for the sake of discussion; once they show up at anyones funeral and begin to inflict the pain and disrespect on the mourners, they need to be dealt with.
I like the Riders who line up between them and the funeral, using their physical presence along with the rumble of their idling engines to insulate the mourners from their hateful spew.
However...you basically say in your post that they don't do and think like you, so they deserve to have the shit beat out of them; and "i can't stand people like this that condemn people because they aren't just like them or act like them and etc etc etc ".
You are basically doing the same thing you say they do that makes it ok to beat them.
Why do you think no one has attacked them so far? 'Cause it would be wrong, and they would be the good guys, not the attackers.
And that is too repugnant to accept.
Believe it, they are radicals and so far out there, they seem nuts...but they do believe they have a duty to suffer and risk their lives to get the word out, and that is their power...faith.
We, as opponents of this form of thought, need to combat it truthfully and effectively...but continuing on our path of ignoring them and paying them as little attention as possible, while protecting our vulnerable survivors, is the only way to be right and effective.
Assholes I can smack down, but these people really believe what they say.
2 cents: )

Righteous Holy Brother Reverend Philbert
Little Lost Sheep Congregation/ Pastor and Pornography Revivalist
FreeOnes Chapter

 

[blakey]

Righteous Holy Brother Reverend Philbert
Little Lost Sheep Congregation/ Pastor and Pornography Revivalist
FreeOnes Chapter

quality :1orglaugh

 

[BNF]

It's got little to do with religion.

It's hate.

It's hate disguised as an ideology.

Ignoring hate doesn't make it go away. Confronting it with the goal of stopping it from being spread and reducing its infection IS the way to end it.

 

[HeartBroker]

It's got little to do with religion.

It's hate.

It's hate disguised as an ideology.

Ignoring hate doesn't make it go away. Confronting it with the goal of stopping it from being spread and reducing its infection IS the way to end it.

:glugglug::thumbsup:

 

[McRocket]

It's got little to do with religion.

It's hate.

It's hate disguised as an ideology.

Ignoring hate doesn't make it go away. Confronting it with the goal of stopping it from being spread and reducing its infection IS the way to end it.

I have known psycho's like that. They just love attention. And they will keep nattering until they get it or they give up. They are like insane children.

And as long as they are not threatening anyone or doing anything illegal, it doesn't bother me that much. They can believe whatever they want.

And if they ask me what I think? I barely make eye contact with them, yawn and tell them 'I don't wish to seem rude, but I do not listen to person's that I feel are mentally unbalanced. Have a nice day.'

That usually drives them nuts. And that is when their true level of insanity starts to come to the surface for all to see.

Whacko's need to be uncovered. They usually do damage only when they remain concealed or misunderstood - imo, anyway.

 

[Philbert]

It's got little to do with religion.

It's hate.

It's hate disguised as an ideology.

Ignoring hate doesn't make it go away. Confronting it with the goal of stopping it from being spread and reducing its infection IS the way to end it.

So...you seem to be disagreeing with my plan of action; are you saying confrontation is the way to go ? Kick their asses, break their bones, what?
I don't see religious fervor and hate as being incompatable or seperate, still seems like radical faith to me; and I can see no difference from these fanatics and any other fanatics I have seen, in essence.
Hate the Devil, hate fags, hate Infidels...it's all radical faith and religious belief; not like your Mama's old time religion, maybe, but a really old story nonetheless.
So...correct me, please. Explain what you would do to confront these fanatics, different than what folks are doing now.:dunno:

 

[thebird]

there was a documentary on tv in the UK about this family it was called 'the most hated family in america'...they are are crazy they picket anything and everything.they teach hatred about anything that isnt to do with their church.They take their kids.1 of the kids was asked what the words on the placards ment and he couldnt answer.all he knew was he hated the people they were picketing cause his mom told him too...how very sad

 

[McRocket]

there was a documentary on tv in the UK about this family it was called 'the most hated family in america'...they are are crazy they picket anything and everything.they teach hatred about anything that isnt to do with their church.They take their kids.1 of the kids was asked what the words on the placards ment and he couldnt answer.all he knew was he hated the people they were picketing cause his mom told him too...how very sad

I agree. That IS sad.

 

[icerfan]

It's got little to do with religion.

It's hate.

It's hate disguised as an ideology.

Ignoring hate doesn't make it go away. Confronting it with the goal of stopping it from being spread and reducing its infection IS the way to end it.

There's a POTW nominee! :thumbsup:

 

[ckjedi66]

Righteous Holy Brother Reverend Philbert
Little Lost Sheep Congregation/ Pastor and Pornography Revivalist
FreeOnes Chapter

:bowdown: can i get an AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:

 

[BNF]

Confrontation is not physical violence and no where did I allude to it.

It is bringing these people into the daylight, into the sunlight: It is teaching kids specifically about how hate groups recruit using broad, sweeping rhetoric to get their hooks in to them. It is informed and responsible reporting on TV, radio and print, not to bring the reporters ratings, but to show the ignorance and even evil of groups like this. It is taking the "lone gunman" seriously because even he can recruit followers. It is talking about it. It is keeping them scrambling by not giving them the podium because "our voices" are louder, united and ultimately, correct.

Hate groups flourish when good people do nothing.

 

[calpoon]

pretty interesting seeing how people like to pick and choose what constitutes as hate. So far It seems there has only been one person that has disputed this organization is a hate group.

These people are Christians. They say that God speaks to them and tells them what to do. And it's right there in the bible, all of the things that they are opposed to are condemend by God and anyone that engages in them is going to Hell, and it is thier duty as Christians to spread the word and tell people this and get them to become christians.

So... that means that if this group is a hate group, then all Christianity is a hate group, because it requires people to do the things that these people do. According to the bible if you don't, then you are not really a Christian.

George W Bush Jr, the president of the United States of America is a Christian. He says that God speaks to him and tell him what to do. He says that God told him to go to war with Iraq. So how is it that this man is not a radical exremist? How is it that the US Military that kills thousands of people because they are following Gods orders, are not a hate group alongside the other hate group that merely speaks to people and tells them the same things?

 

[bodie54]

C'mon Cal - Surely you're aware the spectrum of those who call themselves Christians is extremely broad, with differing levels of tolerance and different interpretations of scripture being features of that diversity. The Phelps clan is at the lunatic fringe of that spectrum. Despite the relative rigidity of born-again doctrine, Bush and the Phelps clan are leagues apart.

Also, on what do you base your assertion that the U.S. military is following God's orders????

One thing about Bush that has always troubled me: born-again Christians believe that only born-again Christians are going to heaven, and that all other Christian denominations and all other religions are shit out of luck. It has always concerned me that that kind of rigid, elitist mindset might end up characterizing more than just his religious dogma, and based on events, imo it has.

 

[hily]

isn't this the same group who says the same thing about soldiers and calls them fags while picketing their funeral. Honestly if I went to a funeral of a soldier I was very close to and they were there saying they deserved to die and that they were a fag/lesbo I'd be PISSED. I think most anyone would be and want to hurt them. Most people going to funerals are already upset.