'GlobalObama Poverty Act' to cost each citizen $2,500 or more

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His first "REAL" piece of shit legislation, ever!
Obama's $845 billion U.N. plan
forwarded to U.S. Senate floor


The U.S. Senate soon could debate whether you, your spouse and each of your children – as well as your in-laws, parents, grandparents, neighbors and everyone else in America – each will spend $2,500 or more to reduce poverty around the world.

The plan sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is estimated to cost the U.S. some $845 billion over the coming few years in an effort to raise the standard of living around the globe.

Barack Obama . . presumeably an engaging guy to have a beer with . . before the almighty self important arrogance set in. I don't understand the mindset or lack of testosterone in the "men" who look up to "the creation" in the remedy of their pains. That was part of being a man . . solving your own issues and not looking for others to blame or for remedy.

Let me guess . .Either Obama is the father figure that you never had . . Or you're so warped and consumed with hatred of this nation, you'll elect obamma hoping that he can deliver a marxian stlye of govt that you think you know something about. :rolleyes:


As for this international aid . .It's a slick way to enrich yourself :thefinger
I mean how naive do you have to be to not see the ease of fraudulent activity within this scheme. Apparently obama is no different than Bushit with his Aid for Aids in Afrika scam fraud farce.





" . . .from complacency to apathy . . from apathy to dependency . . from dependency back into bondage"
 
We could and would argue over that number as to the cost of the plan which I might point out has at least one republican supporting it.It is part of the effort by the UN to try to eliminate extreme poverty in the world.Namely the 1.1 billion who live on a dollar a day or less.It is very much in everyones interest to do that IMO.The world will safer and better off for all if we do.If we allow that kind of extreme poverty to go on and grow it will just make more tension ,conflict,war,terrorism etc.
Or are new Hi-def TV's more important to us then doing this?

Here is a link with info on the bill and its sponsers.
http://obama.senate.gov/press/080213-obama_hagel_can_1/
 
Please cite a legit source for this.

Take your pick...http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Obama+Global+Poverty+Act+&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

We could and would argue over that number as to the cost of the plan which I might point out has at least one republican supporting it.It is part of the effort by the UN to try to eliminate extreme poverty in the world.Namely the 1.1 billion who live on a dollar a day or less.It is very much in everyones interest to do that IMO.The world will safer and better off for all if we do.If we allow that kind of extreme poverty to go on and grow it will just make more tension ,conflict,war,terrorism etc.
Or are new Hi-def TV's more important to us then doing this?

Here is a link with info on the bill and its sponsers.
http://obama.senate.gov/press/080213-obama_hagel_can_1/

Well, I would never have children that I couldn't afford to bring into this world...but that's just me. :sleep:
 
Take your pick...http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Obama+Global+Poverty+Act+&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8



Well, I would never have children that I couldn't afford to bring into this world...but that's just me. :sleep:


I am all for promoting population growth control.Govt of China has been doing it for years and it is another vital thing for the world to tackle.One of the ways we can and should do that is to discard all this religious nonsense at least when it comes to making govermental policy, religious concerns have prevented us from giving aid to family planning programs around the world because some of that money might be used for abortions.As well as not making people Like Mother Theresa out to be someone to be admired, who admantly argued against anyone having an abortion no matter what their economic circumstances were.
 
This is an excerpt from the Preliminary Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans (Full Report) From the Urban Institute — a nonpartisan economic and social policy research organization.

The two candidates' plans would have sharply different distributional effects. Senator McCain's tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes, almost all of whom would receive large tax cuts that would, on average, raise their after-tax incomes by more than twice the average for all households. Many fewer households at the bottom of the income distribution would get tax cuts and those whose taxes fall would, on average, see their after-tax income rise much less. In marked contrast, Senator Obama offers much larger tax breaks to low- and middle-income taxpayers and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers. The largest tax cuts, as a share of income, would go to those at the bottom of the income distribution, while taxpayers with the highest income would see their taxes rise.

Clearly, Obama's economic plans are far more beneficial to the middle class and the poor, who make up the majority of this country, than are McCains. McCains economic policies obviously favor the wealthy and place a larger tax burden on the people who can least afford to bare that burdon.

The Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans, a combined effort of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, is a completely independant and nonpartisan report that makes sense of the candidates stated economic plans. Here is the link to it: http://www.urban.org/publications/411693.html

^This source is as "legit" as it gets.

If a person makes less than $250,000 a year then Obama is the best choice of the two economically speaking. If you make more than $250,000 a year then McCain is the best choice economically.
 
This is an excerpt from the Preliminary Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans (Full Report) From the Urban Institute — a nonpartisan economic and social policy research organization.



Clearly, Obama's economic plans are far more beneficial to the middle class and the poor, who make up the majority of this country, than are McCains. McCains economic policies obviously favor the wealthy and place a larger tax burden on the people who can least afford to bare that burdon.

The Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans, a combined effort of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, is a completely independant and nonpartisan report that makes sense of the candidates stated economic plans. Here is the link to it: http://www.urban.org/publications/411693.html

^This source is as "legit" as it gets.

If a person makes less than $250,000 a year then Obama is the best choice of the two economically speaking. If you make more than $250,000 a year then McCain is the best choice economically.

Thasts been true of the differences in the parties for a long time and many elections.If you were rich it was in your interest to vote republican,everybody else the dems were more in there interest.You know those groups people call "special interests" sometimes although I don't know how when it's the majoritys interests being represented it is all that "special".Nothing wrong with peries representing interests thats what they are suppose to do,what gets me and I think it may finally be changing is how many people have voted against there own interests and were sold a bill of goods.Pubs basically had enough thinking they might get lucky and be making $250,000 and were like yeah lets keep the taxes real low on those people just in case it happens lol.I guess Ishouldn't be surprised they play lotteries too and think the odds of hitting big are reasonable as well there,which they aren't of course.
 
The republicans fool the middle class white voters in this country into voting for them by distracting them with meaningless issues that play on their igorance, racism, homophobia, fear and religiousness which keeps them from noticing that they are being pick-pocketed by unfair economic policies and a regressive tax system that favor the rich and keep the poor and middle class in their place.
 
Ninety--leave it to you to post a source which takes me to "sources" that can best be described as specious or, at worst, completely useless! Hell, the 4th link takes me to a Britney boob vid! :1orglaugh (I did read the obama.com source which seems like the only "legit" link in the first 5, fwiw).

My analysis of this bill--I was not aware of it--is that it is the kind of the thing that the U.S. SHOULD BE DOING. We should not be warmongering and trying to overturn other countries' governments just so WalMart and McDonalds and Chevron can have beachheads for their globalexploitation empires.

However, we have plenty of poor people here in the U.S. that we need to address FIRST.

Secondly, quality of life can be improved simply by repealing our Farming subsidies and teaching poor countries how to irrigate and farm their own food. We could donate $1billion in Farming tractors..That seems like a smarter approach to growing global wealth rather than throwing $2500 at the problem and hoping 'it will just go away':rolleyes: That's the approach of the Bush Administration...
 

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Why do some people get so outraged over the idea that we might spend some of our wealth in an effort to help eliminate global poverty and yet are so willing to part with that same money in order to kill people:

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Anyone who heard Obama's speech in Berlin can't be surprised that he supports this. Who would argue that it is ultimately not in our (the USA's) best interest to see the other nations with whom, like it or not, we are inextricably stuck on this planet be prosperous and successful?
 
People who will vote for Obama will hope a kind of copy paste social libertarian system hoping it will prevent them from poverty. Thinking that by assisting people you will reduce poverty is wrong. France has assisted with social helps and other helps immigrants during 34 years, now France is bankrupt and thing is that those immigrants are very poorly integrated in our country and so are their sons and their daughters who are not well integrated in our country too. I will tell you one thing, social assisting of people will not work especially in the USA. European governments are mostly shortsighted leftists who don't understand the American mentality, in America people are individualistic and it is a good thing and they are united when they need to be. In European countries, people think that assisting others is a good thing which is not. Problem is that in the USA people live with the credit card, and with the credit card, money is virtual and you always tend to spend more. Plus you even pay your car at credit in the USA, not really the case in Europe. If people were not so much buying at credit and were more careful about their debts, perhaps the USA would have less financial troubles. All comes down to money management also if you think that by implementing a UN dictature in the USA, you will have more than serious troubles. Just tell me why USA should pay and bear all the misery of the world on its shoulders? USA isn't mother Theresa.
 
I am all for promoting population growth control.Govt of China has been doing it for years and it is another vital thing for the world to tackle.One of the ways we can and should do that is to discard all this religious nonsense at least when it comes to making govermental policy, religious concerns have prevented us from giving aid to family planning programs around the world because some of that money might be used for abortions.As well as not making people Like Mother Theresa out to be someone to be admired, who admantly argued against anyone having an abortion no matter what their economic circumstances were.

America and Europe are taking measures to ensure that we continue to grow. Why else would a scumbag like McCain continue on with his agenda about workers we need for our economy to succeed.

Ninety--leave it to you to post a source which takes me to "sources" that can best be described as specious or, at worst, completely useless! Hell, the 4th link takes me to a Britney boob vid! :1orglaugh (I did read the obama.com source which seems like the only "legit" link in the first 5, fwiw).

My analysis of this bill--I was not aware of it--is that it is the kind of the thing that the U.S. SHOULD BE DOING. We should not be warmongering and trying to overturn other countries' governments just so WalMart and McDonalds and Chevron can have beachheads for their globalexploitation empires.

However, we have plenty of poor people here in the U.S. that we need to address FIRST.

Secondly, quality of life can be improved simply by repealing our Farming subsidies and teaching poor countries how to irrigate and farm their own food. We could donate $1billion in Farming tractors..That seems like a smarter approach to growing global wealth rather than throwing $2500 at the problem and hoping 'it will just go away':rolleyes: That's the approach of the Bush Administration...

This bill is old news. Blame Yahoo if you don't like the way their search engine works. You are the worst when it comes to selectively blocking something out before even examining if it is remotely "conservative." Even I would have the courtesy to hear out a Huffington source if you posted it here. Don't be so closed minded. :)

Other than that, you had this part right: AMERICA FIRST.
 
This bill is old news. Blame Yahoo if you don't like the way their search engine works. You are the worst when it comes to selectively blocking something out before even examining if it is remotely "conservative." Even I would have the courtesy to hear out a Huffington source if you posted it here. Don't be so closed minded.

Ninety, let's blame you and Yahoo than, eh? You posted a search and I merely pointed out all the "broken links." It's like you loaning me a textbook "If Ninety Ruled the World" only I come to find the pages were ripped out:1orglaugh

I wasn't aware of this bill. I believe Obama is atleast bright enough not to transfer wealth abroad and transfer poverty into America:rolleyes:

There are ways to help grow wealth abroad without directly tapping the Taxpayer pockets...ending food subsidies, teaching countries to grow their own sustainable food, donating tractors/equipment...etc.
 
It would already be a step forward if the US would pay the $ 1.3 billion it owes the UN in annual fees...

Why should the US pay off the 1.3 billion it does not own UN.

UN is run by a third world countries cartel ,Russia and China.

Everything US suggested, Russia and China shot it down. To hell with UN !
 
The Universal Health Care Obama purposed will cost everything to go up but much less than Clinton's proposal. it is less waste and you can opt out NOT to buy in Obama's UHP
 
The Universal Health Care Obama purposed will cost everything to go up but much less than Clinton's proposal. it is less waste and you can opt out NOT to buy in Obama's UHP

Actually Hillarys proposal was much better than Obama's IMO.Nothing universal about a system people can opt out of and it will be the young and healthy who do that of course hurting the funding base for any such system .
 
The republicans fool the middle class white voters in this country into voting for them by distracting them with meaningless issues that play on their igorance, racism, homophobia, fear and religiousness which keeps them from noticing that they are being pick-pocketed by unfair economic policies and a regressive tax system that favor the rich and keep the poor and middle class in their place.

Yeah we'd rather have our pockets cleaned out by and arrogant idiot who hangs out and takes support from RACISTS and CROOKS.

We'd rather have our accounts cleaned out as an excuse to "redistribute wealth" which is code from socialism/communism.

Obama has already SAID he will raise taxes and I already KNOW my taxes have GONE DOWN over the past 8 years. I already know that theses idiot democrap congress people will not lift a finger to make my life any easier, even though they have the tool at their disposal.

Democrats are idiots and they only care about getting their hands in your pockets and taking as many freedoms as they are able.

Have any of you EVER LISTENED to obama SPEAK when he has no teleprompter or rehearsal for the questions???

He talks in circles, talks gibberish, and never makes any sense. He has had approximately 143 service since he was elected to office, and when he "voted" he usually voted "present".

I have YET to hear ONE DAMN thing that this guy has accomplished in is sorry life.

When George Bush was running for office. the democraps kept yelling about him being a "drug addict and drunk" NOW Obama has said that while McCain was serving his (AND OUR) Country, he was sitting around getting high on pot and cocaine. But according to the liberal media he "was just young" :thefinger

This guy gets elected and this country is in SERIOUS TROUBLE, I SINCERELY HOPE people WAKE UP to what a SHAM this guy REALLY IS!!!!!

If he gets elected, heaven help us cause this country will go to hell.
 
Why should the US pay off the 1.3 billion it does not own UN.

UN is run by a third world countries cartel ,Russia and China.

Everything US suggested, Russia and China shot it down. To hell with UN !

Well said, particularly considering that the UN continually wags their fingers in our faces and blame us for EVERYTHING.

Let em find another place for their headquarters, screw em, they have outlived their usefulness ANYWAY.
 
Ninety, let's blame you and Yahoo than, eh? You posted a search and I merely pointed out all the "broken links." It's like you loaning me a textbook "If Ninety Ruled the World" only I come to find the pages were ripped out:1orglaugh

I wasn't aware of this bill. I believe Obama is atleast bright enough not to transfer wealth abroad and transfer poverty into America:rolleyes:

There are ways to help grow wealth abroad without directly tapping the Taxpayer pockets...ending food subsidies, teaching countries to grow their own sustainable food, donating tractors/equipment...etc.


YEAH keep believing that, OR listen to what the goofy SOB actually SAYS.

This is EXACTLY what he is doing. Listen to something besides the alphabet media who are EXTREMELY invested in this twit becoming president!

I keep hoping someone will pop out and say "GOTCHA!!!!" YEah he really IS a JOKE!!!!!! I AIN'T laughing!
 
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