Fringe
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I liked that show from the start. In my opinion, the main plot (about "the pattern") could have been wrapped and then unfolded in a better, more gripping way, but it's still well made. The main themes behind it all (like the Frankenstein theory or the Faust theory) aren't new, but always fascinated many people and are "revamped" with a modern look. So, I think it's worth watching. Not the best new show of the season (that would be Sons of Anarchy 
) or the best running/existing show (Dexter or Battlestar Galactica for example are still superior to Fringe), but well above average.
And the character of Walter Bishop is not only played excellent (by John Noble), it's hilarious. The way he demonstrated why these people's heads exploded ("To understand what happened at the diner, we'll use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting, because he is the friendliest of fruits.") or the first reason he gave why he wanted out of this mental institution ("They have this horrible pudding here.")... very exhilarating. Kudos to the writers for the creation of this unusual, unorthodox character and John Noble for bringing him to life. Certainly takes a lot of talent and wit to do that.
) or the best running/existing show (Dexter or Battlestar Galactica for example are still superior to Fringe), but well above average.And the character of Walter Bishop is not only played excellent (by John Noble), it's hilarious. The way he demonstrated why these people's heads exploded ("To understand what happened at the diner, we'll use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting, because he is the friendliest of fruits.") or the first reason he gave why he wanted out of this mental institution ("They have this horrible pudding here.")... very exhilarating.
Kudos to the writers for the creation of this unusual, unorthodox character and John Noble for bringing him to life. Certainly takes a lot of talent and wit to do that.
I think the show is outstanding. I don't miss an episode (thank you DVR!!). I have to agree with Shin on the Walter Bishop character, for me he's what makes the show entertaining.
I watched the first two episodes and liked them, but then I missed a couple and figured i'd be too lost and never watched it again. this happens to me a lot. that's what happened in 24 season 1, and deadwood.
maybe i'll catch it on dvd or online one of these days. I loved the x-files and lost, and I was in need of a new sci-fi series, but I think terminator was airing at the same time, or whatever that has kept me occupied and haven't got around to it.
maybe i'll catch it on dvd or online one of these days. I loved the x-files and lost, and I was in need of a new sci-fi series, but I think terminator was airing at the same time, or whatever that has kept me occupied and haven't got around to it.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
I think Fringe is awesome. I think it's great how they tie everything together with "The Pattern", but not a whole lot has been explained yet.
To those who watch the show regularly, as I do (I've seen every episode), what ever happened to The Observer? He appeared once, but has never been seen or heard from again. Interesting...
To those who watch the show regularly, as I do (I've seen every episode), what ever happened to The Observer? He appeared once, but has never been seen or heard from again. Interesting...
That is a good question. I'm sorta wondering why they didn't investigate that more in the show. I mean, theoretically they have a connection because Walter knows The Observer.
On imdb The Observer is listed for almost every episode since his first appearance. But as you know, he didn't appear in any of the episodes. Maybe the character was axed and "written out of" the show. I don't know.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
See, I think that he's just been "hiding" in the background during the episodes. Remember when he was first introduced, they showed all of those pictures with him standing in the background, "observing" what was going on?
I've been looking for him, but haven't seen him. But, I think that he's still "there", just not with a speaking role anymore. I'm anxious to see what they end up doing with him. It would be kind of silly for them to make him such an interesting part of the story and then just write him out after just a few episodes, like we would just forget about him.
I hope you're right. Would make sense. Thing is, you never know. Maybe they had to make budget cuts, maybe the actor fell seriously ill, who knows. But you're probably right.
One thing however bugs me about this show from the beginning: the usage of German or Germany. Germans get portrayed as, I don't know, uncooperative and pig-headed featherbraines or something like that. And the German, that gets spoken, is mostly horrible. For example, what is "Wissenschaft Prison Germany"? That makes absolutely no sense. Why don't they at least employ some actors, that can actually speak German, or some writers, that speak German, and some vocal coaches for the actors?
Or in the last episode, "Ability", when the lawyer (played by James Frain) visits Mr. Jones in this German prison, he says to Mr. Jones, that the German government isn't too happy about the stealing of state secrets and that the best he can hope for is life. What does he mean by "life"? Life sentence? What else would there be? There is no death sentence in Germany. The German government abolished the death sentence almost 60 years ago.
And the scenes playing on the Frankfurter Flughafen (Frankfurt airport) are most certainly either lumped together from old archive materials or not shot there. That airport is huge. Certainly bigger than the airports of Miami, Los Angeles or New York (John F. Kennedy Airport). The area of that airport is larger than the campus of the university I'm at and the district adjacent to the campus (part of town I'm living in) together. More than 70.000 people work there. My guess would be that the director/producer of that epsiode has never seen that airport.
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Great show, great cast.
I was a little bit sceptic at first, because of Joshua Jackson (I kinda have that with Dawson's Creek actors and actresses, but 'Dawson' himself proved me wrong in that Criminal Minds episode) and because of the alleged parallels to The X-Files, but turns out this is a great show. JJ Abrams is a genius in his own right, 'King Denethor' John Noble is awesome, and it doesn't hurt that Anna Torv is hot. I really hope Fringe stays on as long as The X-Files.
I was a little bit sceptic at first, because of Joshua Jackson (I kinda have that with Dawson's Creek actors and actresses, but 'Dawson' himself proved me wrong in that Criminal Minds episode) and because of the alleged parallels to The X-Files, but turns out this is a great show. JJ Abrams is a genius in his own right, 'King Denethor' John Noble is awesome, and it doesn't hurt that Anna Torv is hot. I really hope Fringe stays on as long as The X-Files.
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TV-series... yawn.
I liked it. The FBI chick is a honey.
My only fear for the show is that sinse it is made by one of the clowns that made Lost. It will suffer the same as Lost, and be dragged on and on, and the viewer eventually getting nothing in return for tuning in. No answers, nothing. Trying to stretch the idea out for as long as they can. Lost sucks because of that. I hope Fringe doesn't end up like that show.
My only fear for the show is that sinse it is made by one of the clowns that made Lost. It will suffer the same as Lost, and be dragged on and on, and the viewer eventually getting nothing in return for tuning in. No answers, nothing. Trying to stretch the idea out for as long as they can. Lost sucks because of that. I hope Fringe doesn't end up like that show.
Since I've FINALLY gotten around to watching these episodes from the beginning, I've noticed The Observer quite a few times sneaking around.
Getting off an elevator in episode 5. On the train in episode 3. I looked it up and he has been in every episode, hiding in the background, like you say. Only shown for a split second.
you should really put spoiler alert before you spoil it. thanks though.
"Wissenschaft prison". Doesn't that mean "science prison"? I would NOT want to go there!!
You're right about a lot of things not making sense in this show, but remember, when it comes to american TV or movies, it's made BY americans, FOR americans. They don't really care if what's spoken in german makes any sense to germans, as long as it sounds like german to americans. Or swedish for that matter (did you see "Chuck"?)
It doesn't matter if anyone in europe can tell that what's supposed to be Paris or Amsterdam, is obviously filmed somewhere in Bulgaria.
As long as it sells in the US, it's ok, because let's face it, those TV shows and movies makes most of their revenues in the US, so what people outside america think about them is not that interresting to the folks in charge of production.
There are however exeptions. The Bourne films for example. What do you think?
