Former Shell boss predicts $5/gal gas in 2012 in America

There are undoubtedly conspiracies and secrets in the world, but some things just...are. I think you just need to find the right balance of skepticism and belief. ;)
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
excellent points Rey C. ,the US government won't make Hemp legal because the CIA is making too much money off of it being illegal IMO, think about it, you make Hemp legal over night in the US and petty drug dealers cannot profit and this limits some of the CIA money (hemp being shipped into the country) which they use to fund their illegal operations, this is one of the reasons prohibition was tried and failed because the CIA could not control it and make huge profit from it, no heaven forbid that we made Hemp legal in the US and started massive manufacturing of it right here in our own country, heaven forbid that we create sustainable jobs as as result of a natural resource right here in the US, heaven forbid that we create these US Hemp farming operations and ship our product out to the rest of the world and make them dependent on us for something, no no no that's crazy talk ;)

Just to be clear, I'm actually talking about commercial hemp here - not cannabis/pot. I'm talking about the very same plant, that was used up until the Reefer Madness craze of the 1930's, which was the basis for "paper" and fabrics. Hemp is a superior base material vs. cotton because the strands are longer.

What I'm suggesting has nothing to do with the drug problems around the world or in the U.S. You would have to smoke a joint the size of a baseball bat to get even a minor high from commercial hemp. But this would help to restore the textile industry in the southern United States. On the downside (if we want to call it a downside), big oil, paper and the chemical industry would take a hit from what I am suggesting... which is the reason that it won't happen. And the opponents (Dupont, Exxon, Mead, etc.) would pay their stooges in Congress to make the nonexistent link between commercial hemp and marijuana, just to make sure that the chattering masses and Bible thumpers would fall right in line, just as they have for the past 80 years.

BTW, it's rather ironic that Hofmeister is on Bloomberg News right now doing an interview. As far as I can tell (although he claims he is for alternative energy), he's basically just another mouthpiece for Big Oil and the "drill, baby drill" crowd.
 
From the article:

2010: Another record breaking winter. So what happened to global warming?

Tonight Britain braces itself for a further 10 inches of snow and more sub-zero temperatures to come- with no let-up, top forecasters have warned. These unusual Arctic conditions are set to last through the Christmas and New Year bank holidays and beyond and as temperatures plummeted to -10c (14f), prompting the UK’s Met Office to state that this December 2010 was ‘almost certain’ to become the coldest since records began in 1910.

So is it not safe to say that we are witnessing a real, tangible and physical trend here? Unlike the million dollar computer-generated climate model projections produced by the UN’s elite circle of research grantees and bursury award-winning climate scientists, this new trend is actually a real one- one we can feel, touch, and most importantly… empirically measure.

In response to this, I'll quote myself:
Weather =/= Climate.

Should I also underline it and change the font size?

Global climate temperatures have been steadily increasing for over a 100 years, this is a fact. Of which there is considerable evidence to show that man made pollutants are indeed the main cause. You can quote as many Infowars articles as you want (because God knows they're such a trustworthy source of scientific information), that fail to quote the learned opinion of even one Climatologist working in the field, this will not change the fact that the evidence is there and it's accepted by the majority of climate scientists.
 
actually Climate gate just passed and from what I gather the researchers that have scientific proof that global warming is a fraud were not even allowed inside to present their facts because they were told that "you people are not wanted there" and as far as media is concerned, god knows the mainstream media is such a top notch excellent source of investigative journalism in regards to world affairs, so the question you must ask is how trust worthy are these bought and paid for climate scientists and how trust worthy is there research, keep asking questions, don't just accept one answer
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I would advise to not get your info from 'Infowars'. I provide a tuorial clip from the Nasa. We can assume they are a bit more professional and factual on the topic :2 cents:

Climate & Weather

NASAconnect



You are welcome.
 
actually Climate gate just passed and from what I gather the researchers that have scientific proof that global warming is a fraud were not even allowed inside to present their facts because they were told that "you people are not wanted there" and as far as media is concerned, god knows the mainstream media is such a top notch excellent source of investigative journalism in regards to world affairs, so the question you must ask is how trust worthy are these bought and paid for climate scientists and how trust worthy is there research, keep asking questions, don't just accept one answer

Climate gate? Are you fucking serious? Did you even read what was said in those emails in the context they were written? There is no conspiracy here, this was entirely spun by the media to create a story and then seized upon by know nothings who either cannot understand or will not even look at the vast array of evidence out there. If you had kept up to date with the story rather than getting all of your news from Infowars, you would know that none of the scientists involved were charged with malpractice and the scientific community, especially those working within Climatology condemned the actions of the hackers and the conclusions those who decided to run these emails without explaining the correct context or what the meanings of the things said within them actually alluded to. This was a non-story. It's a pity people can't let it go.

You tell me to keep asking questions and not to accept one answer and yet, you seem to have entirely failed to live up to your own standards here.

I'm sure Alex Jones is very proud of you.
 
NASA is amazing to say the least, its too bad they were pretty much founded by Nazis and if you think that is not true you should research Operation Paperclip and the Vatican ratline that was setup right before the fall of Hitler
 
I don't know enough about it to give an informed opinion.

I believe the UK has had a tax somewhat similar to a "Carbon tax" for more than a decade now, so it really doesn't make my much difference to me one way or the other.
 
no no I mean the new carbon taxes that will be coming down the pipe not the one that you already pay, well when you find out more info, I want your take on the "new" carbon taxes that will added to the one you already pay
 
Walk. Ride a bike. Use public transit. It might help the seppos lose some weight for once.

If you live in the city, that's easy. Most people don't have that luxury. Luckily for me my university was within three miles distance for the last three years. Even though I've had access to MTC and even my Giant (bike) I've still driven my car (I know :o). But still, my former point remains.
 
If you live in the city, that's easy. Most people don't have that luxury. Luckily for me my university was within three miles distance for the last three years. Even though I've had access to MTC and even my Giant (bike) I've still driven my car (I know :o). But still, my former point remains.


you gotta love the irony in all this, elites like Prince William tell us all to stop driving our cars and stop taking so many showers but he and his elite bride to be can parade around in high priced cars, yachts and airplanes and live in and use bathrooms the size of dining halls But us peasants must conserve energy, sorry man but I ain't buying it:clap:
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I spent 18 years of my life there brother and I don't plan on going back, school cannot teach common sense

There we are 100% on the same side. My dad studied law and was working in several ministries here in the state of Schleswig-Holstein, the most northern german federal state. Last leg of this was in the Ministry of Culture.

He was A : Completely unable to fix a flat tire, even on a bycicle and B : So out of touch of what you do on a bazar that on a trip to Egypt he paid every price the guys on the Kasbah asked from him, the other people on that trip tild us later he asked, 'Hey, how much is this?' and when those buggers said, 'Well, it's 15 pound, he paid that, even when it was painfully obvious that shit was maybe worth half a pound' ^^

But hey, he had a rather large salary, so it was okay :1orglaugh

So I would say, this proves your point

But still, weather ain't climate. Climate causes weather.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Gas is 7,69 dollars a gallon right now in the Netherlands and it has been hovering around that price for months now so I don't feel sorry for you poor Americans. But here's an idea and it's also good for you.
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Hydrogen. It's the most abundant element in the universe and we never run out of it.

Walk. Ride a bike. Use public transit. It might help the seppos lose some weight for once.

I'm sorry, but comments like these are fucking ignorant. Get off your bike-riding high horses and realize that there are differences between North America and Europe that make it a lot harder to ride a bike every day to get around to places. A lot of the people here do not live in cities with public transit and proper bike lanes; especially here in Canada, where there are a total of six LRT/metro trains in the country (and only four of them are what I would call convinient and useful to commuters). Everywhere else has to rely on poor bus services that are often twenty minutes late on their routes. And plenty of people bike in North America, but it is a little harder to do here than it is in almighty Europe where there are bike lanes all around the cities and bikes on the side of the road that you can rent. My city has bike lanes on major streets, but there is absolutely no kind of places downtown where you would feel safe locking your bike up, let alone any places that you wouldn't be breaking the law in by leaving your bike there. Of course, I shouldn't also have to tell you it is kind of hard to ride a bike when you spend the majority of the months under snow.

And, also, in case you didn't notice, uh... Canada and the States are a lot bigger than Europe. A lot. Quite frankly, you cannot work and live in North America without making driving your main mode of transportation. There is no bullet train to take you from Chicago to St. Louis in an hour. The only way we can get from A to B in a timely manner is by driving or flying because there is no other practical mode of transportation. I live twenty minutes outside of the biggest city in the province, I drive in there nearly every day for work, not to mention I have to go their to do my shopping, go eat, visit friends, get a haircut, slap my bitch up, etc. There is no way I could ride a bike to Saskatoon; there is no safe way to do it on the highway and I would probably get ran off the shoulder if I could make it through the minus -24 degree weather and the snow. Saskatoon is also the only major city for three hours (south) and six hours in any other direction and there is no connections to these cities aside from the highway and airports. No trains, no way to bike and the bus services in my part of the country are severely limited. I often drive a hundred kilometers or more in an average workday. Biking would simply be impractical to my needs and to many other people who live in North America, as well.

Ignorance. It's the most abundant element in the universe and we never run out of it. :thumbsup:
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
I'm sorry, but comments like these are fucking ignorant. Get off your bike-riding high horses and realize that there are differences between North America and Europe that make it a lot harder to ride a bike every day to get around to places. A lot of the people here do not live in cities with public transit and proper bike lanes; especially here in Canada, where there are a total of six LRT/metro trains in the country (and only four of them are what I would call convinient and useful to commuters). Everywhere else has to rely on poor bus services that are often twenty minutes late on their routes. And plenty of people bike in North America, but it is a little harder to do here than it is in almighty Europe where there are bike lanes all around the cities and bikes on the side of the road that you can rent. My city has bike lanes on major streets, but there is absolutely no kind of places downtown where you would feel safe locking your bike up, let alone any places that you wouldn't be breaking the law in by leaving your bike there. Of course, I shouldn't also have to tell you it is kind of hard to ride a bike when you spend the majority of the months under snow.

And, also, in case you didn't notice, uh... Canada and the States are a lot bigger than Europe. A lot. Quite frankly, you cannot work and live in North America without making driving your main mode of transportation. There is no bullet train to take you from Chicago to St. Louis in an hour. The only way we can get from A to B in a timely manner is by driving or flying because there is no other practical mode of transportation. I live twenty minutes outside of the biggest city in the province, I drive in there nearly every day for work, not to mention I have to go their to do my shopping, go eat, visit friends, get a haircut, slap my bitch up, etc. There is no way I could ride a bike to Saskatoon; there is no safe way to do it on the highway and I would probably get ran off the shoulder if I could make it through the minus -24 degree weather and the snow. Saskatoon is also the only major city for three hours (south) and six hours in any other direction and there is no connections to these cities aside from the highway and airports. No trains, no way to bike and the bus services in my part of the country are severely limited. I often drive a hundred kilometers or more in an average workday. Biking would simply be impractical to my needs and to many other people who live in North America, as well.

Ignorance. It's the most abundant element in the universe and we never run out of it. :thumbsup:

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Yup, try living somewhere that is a bit bigger than Hobbiton, somewhere where the weather regularly veers into the DEATH realms of cold .... I'd pay good money to see those tulip munching flatlanders bike through Quebec in January .......
 
I'm sorry, but comments like these are fucking ignorant. Get off your bike-riding high horses and realize that there are differences between North America and Europe that make it a lot harder to ride a bike every day to get around to places. A lot of the people here do not live in cities with public transit and proper bike lanes; especially here in Canada, where there are a total of six LRT/metro trains in the country (and only four of them are what I would call convinient and useful to commuters). Everywhere else has to rely on poor bus services that are often twenty minutes late on their routes. And plenty of people bike in North America, but it is a little harder to do here than it is in almighty Europe where there are bike lanes all around the cities and bikes on the side of the road that you can rent. My city has bike lanes on major streets, but there is absolutely no kind of places downtown where you would feel safe locking your bike up, let alone any places that you wouldn't be breaking the law in by leaving your bike there. Of course, I shouldn't also have to tell you it is kind of hard to ride a bike when you spend the majority of the months under snow.

And, also, in case you didn't notice, uh... Canada and the States are a lot bigger than Europe. A lot. Quite frankly, you cannot work and live in North America without making driving your main mode of transportation. There is no bullet train to take you from Chicago to St. Louis in an hour. The only way we can get from A to B in a timely manner is by driving or flying because there is no other practical mode of transportation. I live twenty minutes outside of the biggest city in the province, I drive in there nearly every day for work, not to mention I have to go their to do my shopping, go eat, visit friends, get a haircut, slap my bitch up, etc. There is no way I could ride a bike to Saskatoon; there is no safe way to do it on the highway and I would probably get ran off the shoulder if I could make it through the minus -24 degree weather and the snow. Saskatoon is also the only major city for three hours (south) and six hours in any other direction and there is no connections to these cities aside from the highway and airports. No trains, no way to bike and the bus services in my part of the country are severely limited. I often drive a hundred kilometers or more in an average workday. Biking would simply be impractical to my needs and to many other people who live in North America, as well.

Ignorance. It's the most abundant element in the universe and we never run out of it. :thumbsup:

PT2 you see what I mean about the elitist progressives.

Between the profiteering oilers and the progressive elitists cheering them on, the assholes of average people don't stand a chance when it comes to gas prices.

Not that there needs to be some grand scheme per se. However, who's interest is it in now to ferret out corruption, jiggering and manipulation in the stead of the consumer amid this unholy alliance?
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Yup, try living somewhere that is a bit bigger than Hobbiton, somewhere where the weather regularly veers into the DEATH realms of cold ....

It's funny you say that, because that is one of my favourite things about Europeans (and people from Vancouver). They like telling us everything that is wrong about our countries and ways of life, but when it gets to be -20 outside and there's a lot of snow, they all end up dying. :tongue:
 
How many years have we been hearing about $5/gallon gas now?

Personally,I think it's only going to happen only when we are down to our last drops.The whole thing right now is nothing more than a scare tactic to get people prepared for something else that the "powers that be" have cooking in the future.
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
It's funny you say that, because that is one of my favourite things about Europeans (and people from Vancouver). They like telling us everything that is wrong about our countries and ways of life, but when it gets to be -20 outside and there's a lot of snow, they all end up dying. :tongue:

I know ... it's save the elk, save the sheep, save the ant, stop polluting .....until they realize that, actually, this planet is rather savage and in the places where we still live nose to nose with it, rather than inside a sterile urban bubble (although, She's coming back to take those place too! heheheheh) , a car is often the difference between arriving alive and not arriving alive.

I like the latter option better. Elk can suck on my tailpipe.
 
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