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For Obama, stinging gun bill defeat is personal and political

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
I have nothing against prohibition.


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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I have nothing against prohibition.


WHO Study: Alcohol Is International Number One Killer, AIDS Second Link

Keep your fucking hands off of my bottle of Knob Creek!!!
 
Obama is the best fire arms salesman since Chuck Heston.

 

georges

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Staff member
I knew that the bill wouldn't pass, glad that the NRA maintains pressure on Obama
 

Mayhem

Banned
Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/01/pat-toomey-background-checks_n_3192690.html

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) revealed that some members of his party opposed expanding background checks for gun sales recently because they didn't want to "be seen helping the president."

Two weeks ago, only three Republican senators voted for the bipartisan background checks amendment sponsored by Toomey and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), despite overwhelming popular support for such a measure.

"In the end it didn’t pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,” Toomey admitted on Tuesday in an interview with Digital First Media editors in the offices of the Times Herald newspaper in Norristown, Pa.

The Times Herald noted that in "subsequent comments," Toomey "tried to walk that remark part-way back by noting he meant to say Republicans across the nation in general, not just those in the Senate."

Last week, Toomey placed more of the blame on the president himself, telling the Morning Call, "I would suggest the administration brought this on themselves. I think the president ran his re-election campaign in a divisive way. He divided Americans. He was using resentment of some Americans toward others to generate support for himself."

Manchin has argued, however, that the National Rifle Association's decision to score the vote was the main reason the compromise amendment on background checks failed. Without it, he believed, 70 senators -- well above the 60-vote threshold needed for passage -- would have supported it.

Opponents also pushed a significant amount of misinformation before the vote, including the myth that the legislation would lead to a federal gun registry. In fact, the bill would have made the creation of such a registry a felony carrying a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

Toomey was pessimistic on Tuesday about the prospects of gun legislation moving forward, saying it's "not likely to happen any time soon."

"The bill is available right now and Sen. (Majority leader Harry) Reid could bring it up for a vote at any time, but we need five people to change their minds," he said.

Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and other lawmakers who voted against the background checks legislation have seen drops in their poll numbers since opposing the legislation.

Toomey, on the other hand, has seen his poll numbers rise.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
So apparently according to the latest Reason-Rupe poll, the majority of Americans are ready to move on to other issues.

Good.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/gun-poll-senate.php


An effort to pass new gun laws went up in flames last month in the U.S. Senate, and, according to a poll done for a pair of Libertarian groups, so did the public’s desire for the Senate to take up the issue.

A majority, 62 percent, of Americans said that they want senators to move on to other issues, according to the latest Reason-Rupe poll released on Friday. Only 33 percent said they want the Senate to take up gun legislation again. The poll was conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International.

“As you may know, the U.S. Senate recently voted down gun control legislation,” the question said. “Do you think the Senate should debate and vote on gun control legislation again or should the Senate move on to other issues?”

It may be the latest sign that the push for new gun laws is fading five months after the massacre in Newtown, Conn. A survey released earlier this week by Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling found that support for expanded background checks on gun buyers remained strong, but had still dipped significantly.
 

Mayhem

Banned
So apparently according to the latest Reason-Rupe poll, the majority of Americans are ready to move on to other issues.

Good.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/gun-poll-senate.php

This is what I was saying before and during the election. The gun issue is a non-issue. And I maintain it would have been even less of an issue if the NRA, GOP and TP had left it alone before the election. By acting like douchebags, they all but invited Obama to come after them after Newtown. The NRA especially, accomplished nothing but spent a lot of money doing it.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Yeah, but obama, pelosi, and fienstien aren't. THEY are the ones wasting time, and dollars, that belong to the taxpayers.
 
This is what I was saying before and during the election. The gun issue is a non-issue. And I maintain it would have been even less of an issue if the NRA, GOP and TP had left it alone before the election. By acting like douchebags, they all but invited Obama to come after them after Newtown. The NRA especially, accomplished nothing but spent a lot of money doing it.

You seem to know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING. And, I do mean EVERY-FUCKING-THING!

Seems to me someone with your VAST knowledge of EVERY FUCKING TOPIC in here, you would be so much more than a lowly fucking card dealer in a shit-ass casino. A card dealer is MAYBE, just maybe, one step above a used car salesman.

Give it a rest, you fucking blowhard!
 

Mayhem

Banned
You seem to know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING. And, I do mean EVERY-FUCKING-THING!

Seems to me someone with your VAST knowledge of EVERY FUCKING TOPIC in here, you would be so much more than a lowly fucking card dealer in a shit-ass casino. A card dealer is MAYBE, just maybe, one step above a used car salesman.

Give it a rest, you fucking blowhard!

Gee Sampon, you are sooo easy to bait. :hairpull: You get the Hook, Line and Sinker Award. :eek: Here you are, jumping up and down, pounding the keys. :rolleyes: I guess this means you're pwnd. :1orglaugh
 
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