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i heard his too
 
In other news, Brian Kendrick was released by WWE Feb 1, jumped ship to AEW that same day and announced for a match on Feb 2, and just got cancelled due to past comments (Holocaust, conspiracy theories etc)
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The stuff he said was stupid, but that's gotta be a whirlwind of emotions in a very short period of time.
 
He is still a part owner, right? Seems like any "firing" is purely cosmetic.

Weird, isn't it? You think it's a work? Maybe Shane is kayfabe fired only to come back for an invasion of his dad's show(RAW). HHH also joins him still being sore after his neutering by Vince fronting a Conga Line of Future Endeavored NXT 1.0 Vanilla Midget Indy Darlings that are mad that they are now Baristas at Starbucks.
 
Weird, isn't it? You think it's a work? Maybe Shane is kayfabe fired only to come back for an invasion of his dad's show(RAW). HHH also joins him still being sore after his neutering by Vince fronting a Conga Line of Future Endeavored NXT 1.0 Vanilla Midget Indy Darlings that are mad that they are now Baristas at Starbucks.
Yes.

I mean it's possible that he stepped on some toes and they want a scapegoat for how the RR did, but to say he's "gone" from a family business? They're fooling no one. Show me the sale of stock and the minutes of the shareholder meeting showing his legal ouster from the company, and maybe I'll believe it.

What would be kind of neat though is if after a decade or so, WWE buys AEW or TNA, and they can try running the Invasion angle again, only doing it properly.
 
Yes.

I mean it's possible that he stepped on some toes and they want a scapegoat for how the RR did, but to say he's "gone" from a family business? They're fooling no one. Show me the sale of stock and the minutes of the shareholder meeting showing his legal ouster from the company, and maybe I'll believe it.

What would be kind of neat though is if after a decade or so, WWE buys AEW or TNA, and they can try running the Invasion angle again, only doing it properly.

We shall see. As Gorilla Monsoon used to say, "Anything can happen in the world of professional wrestling.

I found this on a board I belong to. Interesting read. Complicated. Family issues.

Wade Keller of PWTorch shed some more light on this story.

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"Wade Keller posted an audio update on Shane McMahon on PWTorch.com. Keller noted that things got really bad between Shane and his father Vince McMahon at the Royal Rumble but there were issues before the pay-per-view.

"Things really unraveled with him and his dad on Saturday," Keller said. "Things were not good, according to what I heard."

Keller continued, "If you've been listening carefully to me in the last month or two, you would have gotten the impression there was little chance Shane would have been at the Royal Rumble this weekend, or in WWE's plans. I was pretty surprised when he showed up and then there were reports that he was going to be in a storyline that would weave itself all the way to Wrestlemania because of what I've been hearing about Shane's status in the company, and his relationship with his dad in particular."

Keller said, "This was almost a last straw for a lot of people in WWE when it comes to Shane [and] his dad, of course, being the final decision maker on that front. So the story is for the third year in a row he was brought in to help produce the Royal Rumble. It's sort of a dad doing a favor to his son...Shane's creative ideas over the decades have been laughed at behind his back. I've reported that for decades. He was never seen as having a good creative wrestling mind. That has carried over even into his 50s when trying to help produce the Royal Rumble."

"This was an ... unexpected, sharp increase in disruptiveness in bad ideas on Saturday," Keller said. "From what I'm told directly from people there, he was really self-centered. It was all about him [and] his ideas, and he didn't get caught up on what the plans were for the match. He didn't know was going on TV that was building to certain moments. And he just pulled the McMahon card with the match producers wanting things to be done his way because why else would Shane-O-Mac be brought in, if not to basically dictate something, a major chapter involving him in the match. And so he did. And it got to the point where there were heated arguments with people who felt that they could push back and a lot of stress and strife and distractions with everybody else because it was just chaos. There was a plan for the match. Shane was pushing back against producers who were simply trying to follow through on what Vince McMahon told them should be done in the match. And Shane just went way overboard. If you look at the people that Shane was fighting in the ring during the Rumble, that was his doing. That's who he wanted to be in the ring with looking good against. I mean two of the legit kind of badass guys in WWE -- Otis with his background and Riddle with his background, and Shane punched away at them. Then Kevin Owens super kicked him twice and tried to toss him out but Shane reversed him and tossed him out over the top row to eliminate him."

Keller added, "While all this is going on, Shane is sweating, profusely [and] this has been a thing for him recently, more than recently where there's a concerning level of perspiration. It's almost like just droplets are shooting out of his head and face."

Keller added that Shane was willing to put over Brock Lesnar but things between Shane and Vince got really bad backstage.

"So when it came time to put someone over, Shane was willing to put over Brock Lesnar," Keller said. "But the issue with Shane really got to the next level with Vince when it came to what was planned for Raw and that Shane had real problems with how he was going to be framed as he was going to be in the Elimination Chamber. And so, Shane disagreed with what Vince wanted to do and how he wanted to do it. It was laid out to Shane what the plans were and he did like it, and he pushed back and that led to Vince just finally having enough and canceling all plans with Shane, everything that they have planned with him."

At this point, it's not clear if he was released from his talent contract or if he was simply sent home. Keller said, "I haven't been able to confirm that it's an actual firing because I'm not quite sure what Shane's status is with the company in the sense that if there's an employee or relationship that could be canceled in a traditional way firing happens. But the idea now is from what I'm hearing is he is not going to be part of WWE in any way on or off camera for the foreseeable future, which could span a long, long time. Like years. It's father, son, it's a family situation, who knows, right? But...because this has been festering for a while and it's been an issue for a while, this isn't something that just surprised everybody and it came out of nowhere on Saturday. The feeling is that this really could be the last straw. And there could be a level of professional estrangement between Vince and Shane...I haven't found anybody who will defend Shane, in terms of how he acted on Saturday."
 
As blasphemous as it might sound, I'm not much of a Bret fan. He had moved on to WCW before I really started following wrestling, and my parent's tv plan didn't get WCW. Or maybe it was on after my curfew. Either way, I never saw much of it. I did catch the tail end of Owen's career, and in fact it was the very real reactions on TV from both commentary and wrestlers which kind of got me interested. Then I really got interested when I saw the business side of things, from labour/union laws, competition laws, litigation, trademarks and all the stuff you didn't see on tv. That's a discussion for another time, but tl;dr is that I love the real stories & real life drama in the WWE more than the kayfabe storylines.

So yeah, I'm like you in that I'm skeptical of stories like this being a work, but at the same time, I'm interesting in finding out if they are real, and the implications of them.

How about you? Are you a Hart fan?
In terms of Canadian wrestlers, I have a soft spot for those who I met in real life and were nice to me. I worked at a hotel which was popular with wrestlers when they were in the area, and on the job I met wrestlers like Edge, Benoit, Trish, Gail and Stacy. All were really good people except Stacy who was a diva in every sense of the word.
And Omega. A video game/anime/Japanese culture maniac like that... what's not to like?

I didn't like Christian at first, but he started to grow on me after he split from E&C. I still think this is one of the best promos in the WWE:
 
Good. I'm not a Bret Hart fan either. He's too much of a mark for himself. I was actually a bigger fan of the Hart Foundation and I am old enough to have seen them against the British Bulldogs at the LA Sports Arena.

The Cody Rhodes situation; as the hours pass by I believe it may be legit. I could be getting hustled again. Who knows? Where would Cody go? What happens to his Reality TV and Game Shows?

Any stories growing up watching Stampede Wrestling?

Here's Randy Orton's uncle... The Zodiak (Barry Orton AKA Barry O)



 
Anybody see Elimination Chamber from Saudi Arabia yesterday? Brock won and will face Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania in a Title Unification Bout. Bobby Lashley (kayfabe storyline) was injured and eliminated in his pod. In reality Bobby Lashley was injured prior to the match and will be out for 4 months after having shoulder surgery.
 
I was watching the women's matches. It was only a couple years ago they wouldn't allow women to wrestle on the show AT ALL, and now we have 3 matches in a single PPV!
I'm also happy they ditched the baggy t-shirts which really felt unnecessary since they were fully covered underneath. I liked how they incorporated Rhonda's judo background into her gear.
 
The questions are:
How much was Ridge to blame (there seems to be some debate on that) and
Is he important enough that he won't be mothballed or future endeavored?
 
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