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Erica Campbell quits

xxaru

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Mental issues or not; she is telling it how she sees it. That is her right. She may be wrong or right. But she has the right to describe how she see's her former profession.
That’s fine, so long as she includes herself (and other girls like her) as part of the problem. You can’t keep blaming everyone else for what you did out of your own free will.
 
That’s fine, so long as she includes herself (and other girls like her) as part of the problem. You can’t keep blaming everyone else for what you did out of your own free will.

I don't remember her blaming anyone per se; just the industry as a whole as it presently exists.

I do agree that she should take some of the blame. She was a willing participant in an industry that she thinks was destructive then she should bare some of that blame.
Surely she must have thought of SOME of this before the day she wrote the letter. And as soon as she had reservations she should have shared them then; not now when she no longer has a financial stake in the industry.
And if she did suddenly wake up and realize it then she must accept the fact that she is emotionally capable of being EXTREMELY naive or allowing her self to live in EXTREME denial.

I am NOT saying she is a saint. I simply am glad she said what she did and as long as there is no hard evidence that she is lying then I see nothing wrong with her sharing her feelings on her former profession.
 

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I don't remember her blaming anyone per se; just the industry as a whole as it presently exists.
And that is my problem with this whole thing.

I do agree that she should take some of the blame. She was a willing participant in an industry that she thinks was destructive then she should bare some of that blame.
Surely she must have thought of SOME of this before the day she wrote the letter. And as soon as she had reservations she should have shared them then; not now when she no longer has a financial stake in the industry.
And if she did suddenly wake up and realize it then she must accept the fact that she is emotionally capable of being EXTREMELY naive or allowing her self to live in EXTREME denial.
Agreed.
 
Although she does make some nebulous references to such, Erica isn't griping about her own bad experiences. Rather, she's pointing out that many other women have very bad experiences (mostly doing hardcore, I believe) in the porn biz and she claims that she wants to help them. I personally don't have a problem with that goal.

Of course, what exactly such "help" should consist of is very much open to debate. Being an atheist, I'm certainly not in favor of religious evangelism. Nor do I like censorship (which is "helpful" in that it discourages production of anything which can't be distributed). Neither of those are effective solutions in the long run, since they only address the symptoms and not the causes.


No, the reality is that they are ALL part of the problem. There are many serious issues which exist within the realm of the hardcore porn industry that need to be addressed. Many people (mainly women) are being taken advantage of and harmed, both physically and mentally[1]. The driving forces behind all of this include drug use/abuse/addiction, mental illnesses, coercion, inadequate/unenforced regulations, etc.

Since porn does influence many impressionable viewers (including children)[2], these abuses are all the more concerning. They are also giving plenty of people the wrong ideas about sex and about women.


I do not doubt that her views of the industry are valid. If you want more evidence (especially from non-religious sources), then just let me know.


1. A collection of porn star anecdotes from former porn star Shelley Lubben, now religious (PDF)
2. http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=2014489

That was a very good post and that 1st link from Shelley Lubben was a real eye opener.Great post as usual,Blink.That link to the blog blew Me away.:(
 
If you take away the problems in the porn industry for a sec and focuss on the sex side of it, the porn industry represents the things that Erica and lots (not all) religious people hate when it comes to sex since sex is more disturbing to them then people who are not religious. The things that they hate is this:

1. Nudity
2. Pre-Marital Sex
3. Contraceptives since all religions forbid all kinds including condoms
4. Gay/Lesbian and Bisexual porn cause let's face it religous people have sheer hatred for gay men and women and bisexual men and women even though you do get gay and bi people who religious.
 
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=42789016&blogID=384466000

I think this link by Blink should be recommended reading for everyone that posts regularily here on FreeOnes. It's information that people should be made aware of.

I read that and I say that something needs to be done to get rid of the problems in porn. All the problems that is in porn is the right ammo that the anti-porn groups need to try to ban it, if something can/will be done to get rid of the problems than the anti-porn groups wouldn't have something to try to get rid of porn.
 

xxaru

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http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=42789016&blogID=384466000

I think this link by Blink should be recommended reading for everyone that posts regularily here on FreeOnes. It's information that people should be made aware of.
I think we're all aware of it. This is not some new revelation. There are things that go on in porn (such as drugs), just as there are things that go on in the music industry, Hollywood, athletics, etc. I'm not saying good or bad... it just is what it is. I say lets move on.
 

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I read that and I say that something needs to be done to get rid of the problems in porn. All the problems that is in porn is the right ammo that the anti-porn groups need to try to ban it, if something can/will be done to get rid of the problems than the anti-porn groups wouldn't have something to try to get rid of porn.
You will never have a perfect utopia in any facet of life. If there were no drugs in porn, the anti-porn people would search for something else to whine about. I say lets stop trying to play God and be everyones savior, and accept things for what they are.
 
I think we're all aware of it. This is not some new revelation. There are things that go on in porn (such as drugs), just as there are things that go on in the music industry, Hollywood, athletics, etc. I'm not saying good or bad... it just is what it is. I say lets move on.

I disagree. If people are suffering, one should never just 'move on'.
 

xxaru

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I disagree. If people are suffering, one should never just 'move on'.
At some point you have to learn that you cannot save people from themselves. You can't get rid of all the drugs in society. You can't get rid of all the crime. You're not gonna stop professional athletes from using steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. And you're not going to take drug abuse out of the porn industry. You can have 100 Erica Campbells preach their sermons to young girls like themselves, but it's not going to stop them from going in the industry.

Instead of taking a negative approach to these issues... saying we need to put a stop to them because they are bad, etc., I'd like to see people take a more positive approach and educate people in the industry so they'll have the knowledge about things they're likely to encounter in the business and will be better prepared to deal with them if/when they present themselves. You don't tell young teens that sex is bad and don't do it. You educate them so they can know how to handle certain situations when they arise and leave it on them to make the best decisions for themselves.

If people like Erica Campbell (or other experienced girls in the industry) were telling girls, "hey, let me take you under my wing and show you the ins and outs of this business so you can be prepared to handle what's going to be thrown at you", instead of... "Don't get involved in this because it's morally wrong in the eyes of God, and if you do you will destroy your life, etc..." a lot of the problems girls get caught up in in the industry would start to dissipate. But people are stupid and hard headed, so they keep following the same paths and proceed to bash everyone for their own poor judgment.
 
I think your perspective on this subject is obvious by now.

My point was simply that Blink's link is a great one and should be read by all on here.

It's simply more information. I see nothing wrong with that.

Obviously you do. So be it.
 
Apparently Erica Campbell has called it quits and given herself to God.

www.clubericacampbell.com


I realize this news is on the 'Find your favourite babe' thread. But I thought I'd start a thread here since she was such a popular model.


Ever noticed how so many of these "born-again Christians" have some sort of a history, i.e. porn, drugs, crime, promiscuity, or something of the sorts?

Often times, the reason they got themselves into such situations is because of their inability to moderate their convictions, i.e. their tendency to do things to extremes. Put simply, they go overboard in whatever direction they're pointed. And when the time comes where they've realized they've gone overboard, they point themselves in the opposite direction and go overboard in that direction instead; basically, they go from one extreme to the other.

So here we have Erica Campbell who has been in the porn industry for several years, spread-eagle in front of a camera for who-knows-how-many photos, and now she finds "Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior". Does she simply quit the industry, perhaps acknowledging that there is a God who may lead her to better things? Nope. She has to become a "Christian" who is now "Doing the Lord's work" and "Serving Christ".

Like I said....from one extreme to the other.
 
The next words will be in Spanish...

LO QUE MÁS ME DUELE DE TODO ESTO ES QUE NO HAYA QUERIDO DESPEDIRSE DE NOSOTROS AQUÍ!!!


I don't know... but we could give her a beautiful farewell... like friends and fans... only if she have given us the opportunity before her retirement.

Many of us are identify with her enormous charisma, beauty and naturality...
Many of us have felt a "vacuum" after receiving this notice like a sudden blow in our face.


I feel dark blue.
 
Born Again Christians ...

Ever noticed how so many of these "born-again Christians" have some sort of a history, i.e. porn, drugs, crime, promiscuity, or something of the sorts?
Yes. The great majority of "Born Again Christians" that were not just following their parents into the same church, and are of "radical repentance," are often from just backgrounds they wish to forget.

But not only do I not think that is the case here, but I don't see ERC's "sin" as one needing repentance. But I'm ignorance of her life outside the camera, and those experiences, so I don't know all the details.

Often times, the reason they got themselves into such situations is because of their inability to moderate their convictions, i.e. their tendency to do things to extremes.
Agreed. They lacked moderation, willpower, responsibility, etc... so they need some sort of "discipline" that many "radical repentance" churches bring. So be it.

But I don't see that here.

So here we have Erica Campbell who has been in the porn industry for several years, spread-eagle in front of a camera for who-knows-how-many photos, and now she finds "Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior". Does she simply quit the industry, perhaps acknowledging that there is a God who may lead her to better things? Nope. She has to become a "Christian" who is now "Doing the Lord's work" and "Serving Christ".
Like I said....from one extreme to the other.
I disagree. She made her choices for whatever reasons. I don't see them as "extreme," and I'm not jumping to conclusions if either before or after is! If she's repenting what she's done, she shouldn't. She should just let them be.

In fact, if someone is telling her she's caused too many men to lust for her, and that was her fault and sin, they need to be smacked. It's men who lust and don't moderate that lust that are at fault, not her. I'm tired of churches claiming "she deserved it" when women get hurt. No, no woman ever deserves anything, and men shouldn't blame women for their own inability to control their temptations.

I wish her enlightenment. She deserves it. I don't see her past as being "extreme." And I don't see anything that says she's amid "rabid repentance" either. The only thing I saw her possibly allude to was the number of men who contacted her about "being lonely." I honestly hope she doesn't blame herself for men being unable to find contentment in their own lives.

She has three (3) Playboy titles to her name last time I checked, and it's all because she was a lady. I don't see it any other way. God bless her, however she chooses her life from here on out. But I hope she doesn't dwell on her past or blame herself for men who complained of "being lonely." No woman is to blame for a man's lack of contentment, it's only men themselves.

And that's the even greater tragedy. She was always a lady who had her limits. Now that it sounds like she's moved on, if she still dwells on men being lonely, and blaming herself for that, it's a double-insult when men complain about her leaving. They are so fixated on her leaving, and possibly their belief that she "wants to be respectable," some are complaining her to "bring her back" to the alleged "reality she wasn't respectable before," and "can't escape it now." WTF?

Man, that's what really hurts. I hope she doesn't feel that pain. God doesn't want her to feel that pain. I hope she finds peace, and never, ever inflicts herself with any blame. She is not to blame for anything anyone else does. She was a lady. We were blessed to have her. Her nature, at least on this board, was always of divine representation. And I hope she finds some well-deserved happiness if she hasn't had it in the past.
 
I just hope she continues to do well......and the religion she is a part of doesn't steal all that she earned as a 'tithe' for saving her.
 
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