Episcopal Church approves same-sex marriage

[lurkingdirk]

Controversial topic, so everyone keep your heads about you. Don't be a dick.

They don't condone an actual "marriage," but a blessing ceremony. I think this is a big step in the right decision, though I know that many church goers will be horrified by this news. What are your thoughts? Not just your thoughts on same-sex relationships, but on the Christian church taking this relatively progressive step.

Here is the complete article:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/10/us/episcopal-same-sex-unions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Episcopal priests will be allowed to conduct services blessing same-sex relationships under a policy approved Tuesday at the church's national convention in Indianapolis.

The convention's House of Bishops approved the provisional policy 111-41 with three abstentions Monday, clearing it for consideration by the House of Deputies, which approved it Tuesday evening.

The policy was approved in the House of Deputies, following more than an hour of debate, by 78% of the voting lay members and by 76% of clergy.

With the vote, the Episcopal Church becomes the largest U.S. denomination to officially sanction same-sex relationships. The Episcopal Church has about 1.95 million members in the United States, down 16% over the last decade, according to the church.

 

[squallumz]

dont be a dick! dont be a dick!

 

[Mayhem]

Good for them. It's time that people realized the difference between what God wants and what the priests want.

It's also time to realize that if the GOP hates it, it must be good for America. (That's not me being a dick. That's my response to people who are)

 

[lurkingdirk]

Good for them. It's time that people realized the difference between what God wants and what the priests want.

It's also time to realize that if the GOP hates it, it must be good for America. (That's not me being a dick. That's my response to people who are)

I'm wondering if moves like this by the church will force the GOP to realign itself a little bit. Perhaps the church is not the place to base a political party.

 

[Mayhem]

Let's be clear about something. The stance of the Catholic church regarding gays and abortion have nothing to do with morality. These policies were enacted at a time when infant mortality was much higher and life expectancy was much, much lower. Therefore, making anything that risked less little Catholics being born was to be considered a bad thing. That's where all this hubub comes from. It was not a moral issue. It was a practicality issue disguised as morality (as such things are). Ya gotta have plenty of recruits if you're going to go off to the Holy Land and rape/murder/pillage the infidels who dare to not pray like you.

 

[seeprice]

The methodist religion really dosen't have much of a stance with or against gay marriage...I really don't think SOME religions are as oppossed as some think...maybe not for it, but not totally against it...does that make any sense?

 

[Will E Worm]

There are not a church anyway. Especially now. :hatsoff:

 

[Mayhem]

And your definition of a church is what exactly?

 

[ralph furley]

Controversial topic, so everyone keep your heads about you. Don't be a dick.

They don't condone an actual "marriage," but a blessing ceremony. I think this is a big step in the right decision, though I know that many church goers will be horrified by this news. What are your thoughts? Not just your thoughts on same-sex relationships, but on the Christian church taking this relatively progressive step.

Here is the complete article:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/10/us/episcopal-same-sex-unions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

now u can marry DJ Cowboy

 

[Petra]

I'm wondering if moves like this by the church will force the GOP to realign itself a little bit. Perhaps the church is not the place to base a political party.

I'm not sure how much this will force the GOP to realign. I don't think until the major denominations (Catholic & Baptist mostly) do something like this, that the GOP will be swayed much.

But I also think being married in the eyes of the law (along with all the benefits of being legally married) should be a civil matter and not religious. THEN if people want to be married in the eyes of God, Allah, the greek pantheon, the golden cow or the flying spaghetti monster they can do so AFTER the civil marriage.

 

[carpetofleaves]

In Spain there are certain medical centers to heal homosexuality, financed by a bishop (who hosted a pedofile in his house).

 

[vodkazvictim]

Heterosexuality is wrong.

 

[Petra]

In Spain there are certain medical centers to heal homosexuality, financed by a bishop (who hosted a pedofile in his house).

Hell, up until recently health insurance in the Netherlands PAID for people to attend these medical centers.o-O

 

[lurkingdirk]

now u can marry DJ Cowboy

Seriously, what is wrong with you?

 

[lurkingdirk]

I'm not sure how much this will force the GOP to realign. I don't think until the major denominations (Catholic & Baptist mostly) do something like this, that the GOP will be swayed much.

I don't know. It seems to me that I've been feeling the GOP harbouring some resentment toward their right-wing base. I also don't believe that if the GOP were to swing a little more to the centre, they would lose the right-wingers. It isn't like they are going to suddenly vote for the Democrats. I think this is an opportune time for the GOP to disassociate themselves from the fanatical, fundamental, Christian party base they currently have. If they did it right, they would win the next four elections.

But I also think being married in the eyes of the law (along with all the benefits of being legally married) should be a civil matter and not religious. THEN if people want to be married in the eyes of God, Allah, the greek pantheon, the golden cow or the flying spaghetti monster they can do so AFTER the civil marriage.

I agree with this. Amazing how everyone who is against same-sex civil union are the same people who scream in protest if the State tries to impose any limitations on their religion. It has to work both ways, folks.

 

[squallumz]

dammit, this is politics. its stinking up the talk section!

 

[PirateKing]

There are not a church anyway. Especially now. :hatsoff:

Better than one that molests kids. :hatsoff:

 

[Deepcover]

Idk...I still don't see the point in all this...

 

[wottle]

Better than one that molests kids. :hatsoff:

I was raised in this denomination. My sister, believe it or not, is an ordained priest in this denomination.
That's right Bitches, we started ordaining women in 1987. This, and the Ordination of an openly gay women as
Presiding Bishop of the USA, have cause a "Schism" worldwide. Fuck the rest of the Anglican comunity. We call it as
we see it. Equal rights for all!!! We let our priest marry rather than become pedophilles.