Dream Gun

[squallumz]

 

[Red Spyder]

^ Awesome gun! :thumbsup:

 

[larss]

 

[cementhead]

Favorite guns:

Bolt-Action Rifles - Mauser K98, any Pre-64 Winchester Model 70, L.A.R. Grizzly Big Boar, and any Remington Model 700

Semi-Auto Rifles - Springfield Armory M1A, Heckler & Koch 91 (G3), FN FAL

Shotguns - Ithaca Model 37, Browning BPS, Winchester Model 12

Revolvers - all S&W N-Frames, Colt Python, Dan Wesson Model 15-2

Pistols - M1911A1, Glock 21, L.A.R. Grizzly Win Mag

 

[xfire]

I don't have to dream about one. It's on a rack in my bedroom. I like any bolt-action or semi-auto battle rifle.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/m1garand.htm

Anything that I'd like to someday own, but never will, likely is anything but practical. For about 20 years I've drooled over the H&K MP5 every time I've seen one at gun shows or the range (always nice to have cop friends ). But I'll never buy one because of the red tape... and it would just be a VERY expensive toy that I'd probably shoot once or twice and then lock away. My other fantasy firearm would be an original 1847 Colt Walker (the original magnum revolver). Last, but certainly not least, would be a Lange Pistole 08 (P08 Luger Artillery model) and/or an 1896 Mauser C96 "Broomhandle".

I don't have to dream about one. It's on a rack in my bedroom. I like any bolt-action or semi-auto battle rifle.

The liberals here are going to have to tread lightly that they don't have to forfeit their Lib card, you know, because of their affinity for these evil things called firearms.

 

[assari]

they don't have to forfeit their Lib card, you know, because of their affinity for these evil things called firearms.

Brave men and women do not carry guns with them.

They have knifes.

My favorite is the Marttiini-knife.


http://www.marttiini.fi

 

[Rey C.]

The liberals here are going to have to tread lightly that they don't have to forfeit their Lib card, you know, because of their affinity for these evil things called firearms.

Interesting that I'm now a liberal. :dunno: The people who know me in real life would probably find that characterization rather amusing. But it doesn't bother me at all... inaccurate, though it is. On some issues I probably do have views that would be considered liberal. On other issues and topics, my views are pretty conservative. And then, there are those issues (more often than not, in fact) where my views are libertarian - especially those concerning civil liberties. But I guess some think that I'm a liberal because I spend a fair amount of time beating up on so-called conservatives, like Sam Fisher. I don't do that because he claims to be a conservative. I do it because he's kinda... well... stupid. He's like Michele Bachmann, but with a penis.

My girlfriend, who is quite liberal, tells me that I'm too hard-hearted to be a liberal Democrat and too smart to be a conservative Republican. Take from that what you will...

 

[vodkazvictim]

Only when it's filled with sperm right you homo? :tongue:

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Interesting that I'm now a liberal. :dunno: The people who know me in real life would probably find that characterization rather amusing. But it doesn't bother me at all... inaccurate, though it is. On some issues I probably do have views that would be considered liberal. On other issues and topics, my views are pretty conservative. And then, there are those issues (more often than not, in fact) where my views are libertarian - especially those concerning civil liberties. But I guess some think that I'm a liberal because I spend a fair amount of time beating up on so-called conservatives, like Sam Fisher. I don't do that because he claims to be a conservative. I do it because he's kinda... well... stupid. He's like Michele Bachmann, but with a penis.

My girlfriend, who is quite liberal, tells me that I'm too hard-hearted to be a liberal Democrat and too smart to be a conservative Republican. Take from that what you will...

Correct me if I'm wrong, Rey, but aren't you incredibly adamant about getting Obama back in office and glowing about the man and his administration/performance? And of course I don't think I've ever read anything you've posted that gave credit to a conservative - mostly just bashing.

Of course that wouldn't mean you're "liberal," per se, but it sure raises a ton of flags.

As far as Mayhem, I think he and I were equally adamant about Dr. Paul, but of course the way he glows about Obama is also puzzling.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Brave men and women do not carry guns with them.

They have knifes.

Maybe not...but we're smart enough not to bring a knife, to a gun fight!

 

[assari]

Maybe not...but we're smart enough not to bring a knife, to a gun fight!

What country is so unsafe that people need to carry a gun?

 

[Rey C.]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Rey, but aren't you incredibly adamant about getting Obama back in office and glowing about the man and his administration/performance? And of course I don't think I've ever read anything you've posted that gave credit to a conservative - mostly just bashing.

Of course that wouldn't mean you're "liberal," per se, but it sure raises a ton of flags.

As far as Mayhem, I think he and I were equally adamant about Dr. Paul, but of course the way he glows about Obama is also puzzling.

I didn't realize that I was "incredibly adamant" about getting Obama back in office, nor do I remember glowing about the man and his administration. When did these things happen? :dunno: I was VERY much in favor of the auto bailout. And I think I've explained in several posts here why. Do I favor Obama over Romney? Yes - I feel that Romney is an empty suit without original ideas. I'm convinced that he just played the proper part to get the GOP nomination. He's about as much of a "severe conservative" as Donald Duck is. Why wouldn't I give Romney a chance? I've tried that before. W. Bush lied about not being a nation-builder and the first chance he got, he invaded Iraq under false pretenses. So, fool me once... :nono: Did I favor Obama over McCain in 2008? Yes - mainly because McCain was an older man with a witless twit for a running mate, and he admitted that he didn't know very much about economic issues. Not really the sort of thing to admit to when the country is on the verge of economic collapse. But in the 2000 campaign I supported McCain. I still like and respect him - despite the Palin thing. But he was a very different man back in 2000 vs. 2008. I blame that bastard Karl Rove for that. But I went on to vote for W. Bush over Gore. I now (like many others) regret that vote and wish that McCain had gotten the GOP nomination - minus Silly Sarah from Wasilla. I make fun of the people you may hold high as the heroes of conservatism because of the stupid things they say from time to time. But I've made fun of Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in the past too. But recently they seem to have developed volume mute buttons in their mouths that the extreme right wingers haven't developed yet.

I guess it was last year that I wrote a (typically) long post about supply side economics. I like talking about Econ - it makes me think back to see how much I can remember. That was the economic philosophy that I was schooled in. But there are very few (make believe) conservatives these days that can even begin to discuss the finer points of supply side economics... its risks and its rewards.

The issue that I have with modern day (so called) conservatives and many in the GOP is that they have this simplistic little litmus test that they use to decide who is, or can be, in their tree house. You're kind of doing it here. You may be too young to remember this. But when Reagan was President, the GOP was more of a "big tent party". Have you heard the term "Reagan Democrat" before? Let's assume you have. That was what Reagan tried to do: include more people... create a broader base. What the GOP is doing now is trying to figure out who they can exclude (the term RINO is a prime example of this). So I doubt you'll be hearing the term Romney Democrat any time soon.

But if some here think that I'm a liberal because I have NO use for Sar@h Palin and her trailer park brood, Michele "Hoot Smalley" Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh or any other person on the far right that pretends to be a fiscal (or as Sarah spelled it "physical") conservative, but is in fact just a social conservative/Evangelical that spouts the same old same old with respect to tax policy, that's more than OK by me. Before this bifurcated mode of thinking infected the GOP, I was asked by a local Republican to run for the Board of Supervisors as a Republican. And around the same time, I was asked by a local Democrat if I'd run as a Democrat. But now, I suspect that the Republicans would ask me to sign a pledge that I oppose pornography, support prayer in schools, a complete ban on abortions (even in cases of rape or incest), a return to the gold standard, complete opposition to gay marriage and any number of other things in order to be in their tree house. I'm not now and have never been a member of either of the two major political parties. United We Stand is the only party that I've ever supported. But I'm more than comfortable with people seeing me as they choose to see me. I'm an only child, Scott. So being a lone groover has never bothered me. But for people who need the safety of a group/herd, go for it. Do what makes you feel most comfortable. It's just not for me.

As for guns, I've been a Life Member of the NRA for about 30 years now. I've hunted for most of my life, but not so much anymore. I've shot with cops who were/are on SWAT teams. To me guns are just tools or collectible items. And although I'm not a braggart (or an idiot) like Sam, his little collection that he posted pictures of here really doesn't compare to mine. I'm just a big, overgrown kid at heart: I like guns, cars, girls, racing and those sorts of things. But unlike you, Sam (and I guess some others here), I think that a man has to define himself - not be defined by the things he has (guns, cars, etc.) or the people he associates with (while chanting "I'm a conservative! I'm a conservative!" :nanner.

You can call me anything you like. Just don't call me late for supper!

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I didn't realize that I was "incredibly adamant" about getting Obama back in office, nor do I remember glowing about the man and his administration. When did these things happen? as VERY much in favor of the auto bailout. And I think I've explained in several posts here why. Do I favor Obama over Romney? Yes - I feel that Romney is an empty suit without original ideas. I'm convinced that he just played the proper part to get the GOP nomination. He's about as much of a "severe conservative" as Donald Duck is. Why wouldn't I give Romney a chance? I've tried that before. W. Bush lied about n vor Obama over McCain in 2008? Yes - mainly because McCain was an older man with a witless twit for a running mate, and he admitted that he didn't know very much about economic issues. Not really the sort of thing to admit to when the country is on the verge of economic collapse. But in the 2000 campaign I supported McCain. I still like and respect him - despite the Palin thing. But he was a very different man back in 2000 vs. 2008. I blame that bastard Karl Rove for that. But I went on to vote for W. Bush over Gore. I now (like many others) regret that vote and wish that McCain had gotten the GOP nomination - minus Silly Sarah from Wasilla. I make fun of the people you may hold high as the heroes of conservatism because of the stupid things they say from time to time. But I've made fun of Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in the past too. But recently they seem to have developed volume mute buttons in their mouths that the extreme right wingers haven't developed yet.

I guess it was last year that I wrote a (typically) long post about supply side economics. I like talking about Econ - it makes me think back to see how much I can remember. That was the economic philosophy that I was schooled in. But there are very few (make believe) conservatives these days that can even begin to discuss the finer points of supply side economics... its risks and its rewards.

The issue that I have with modern day (so called) conservatives and many in the GOP is that they have this simplistic little litmus test that they use to decide who is, or can be, in their tree house. You're kind of doing it here. You may be too young to remember this. But when Reagan was President, the GOP was more of a "big tent party". Have you heard the term "Reagan Democrat" before? Let's assume you have. That was what Reagan tried to do: include more people... create a broader base. What the GOP is doing now is trying to figure out who they can exclude (the term RINO is a prime example of this). So I doubt you'll be hearing the term Romney Democrat any time soon.

But if some here think that I'm a liberal because I have NO use for Sar@h Palin and her trailer park brood, Michele "Hoot Smalley" Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh or any other person on the far right that pretends to be a fiscal (or as Sarah spelled it "physical") conservative, but is in fact just a social conservative/Evangelical that spouts the same old same old with respect to tax policy, that's more than OK by me. Before this bifurcated mode of thinking infected the GOP, I was asked by a local Republican to run for the Board of Supervisors as a Republican. And around the same time, I was asked by a local Democrat if I'd run as a Democrat. But now, I suspect that the Republicans would ask me to sign a pledge that I oppose pornography, support prayer in schools, a complete ban on abortions (even in cases of rape or incest), a return to the gold standard, complete opposition to gay marriage and any number of other things in order to be in their tree house. I'm not now and have never been a member of either of the two major political parties. United We Stand is the only party that I've ever supported. But I'm more than comfortable with people seeing me as they choose to see me. I'm an only child, Scott. So being a lone groover has never bothered me. But for people who need the safety of a group/herd, go for it. Do what makes you feel most comfortable. It's just not for me.

As for guns, I've been a Life Member of the NRA for about 30 years now. I've hunted for most of my life, but not so much anymore. I've shot with cops who were/are on SWAT teams. To me guns are just tools or collectible items. And although I'm not a braggart (or an idiot) like Sam, his little collection that he posted pictures of here really doesn't compare to mine. I'm just a big, overgrown kid at heart: I like guns, cars, girls, racing and those sorts of things. But unlike you, Sam (and I guess some others here), I think that a man has to define himself - not be defined by the things he has (guns, cars, etc.) or the people he associates with (while chanting "I'm a conservative! I'm a conservative!"

You can call me anything you like. Just don't call me late for s

Fair enough. You are the most articulate on the forum in clarifying yourself, Rey. I'll give you that.

Socially, then, you are no doubt a liberal. As far as the classification shit, I think you'd be hard pressed to define me seeing as the last couple of pres elections I voted Baldwin and Nader, and I won't tell you who I voted for that one time before those two (but I regret it).

This one is a kicker for me as I can't see myself voting for either of these two. Obama has appointed some of the most extreme individuals to his cabinet and Supreme Court and I don't think is aware of what the health care overhaul is going to do. One thing though that I do like about him is at least a little effort to change things in our affairs in the ME. But when I see you rail against Romney as if he's the devil himself I just don't see it, as Obama is hardly a saint.

 

[Ravenholm]

All of these so far are pussy weapons.

I will have the Chinese M1 L1 Tripple Pulse Assault Rifle (the one the mercs use in the movie Deep Rising) if it was real. 1000 round capacity, air cooled, water tight. Mini chaingun heaven so it is. The ideal zombie apocalypse weapon!. Well that and having MacGyver on myside as well would be.

 

[xfire]

The liberals here are going to have to tread lightly that they don't have to forfeit their Lib card, you know, because of their affinity for these evil things called firearms.

I agree with Rey C., and I'll add that for me, I relentlessly attack "conservatives" because that's the only language they understand. Tune into Fox News or right-wing talk radio if you need that confirmed, it's all attack all the time and when you interact with "conservatives" on internet forums they do their best to emulate the professional liars they buy their opinions from. Right-wingers are some of the nastiest, vile, and most hateful people on the planet and the way I choose to deal with them is to escalate the conflict. Probably not the best way, if you're looking for an accord, but I learned a long time ago that the rabid right are only interested in victory, not compromise, so why fucking bother playing nice?

 

[vodkazvictim]

I agree with Rey C., and I'll add that for me, I relentlessly attack "conservatives" because that's the only language they understand. Tune into Fox News or right-wing talk radio if you need that confirmed, it's all attack all the time and when you interact with "conservatives" on internet forums they do their best to emulate the professional liars they buy their opinions from. Right-wingers are some of the nastiest, vile, and most hateful people on the planet and the way I choose to deal with them is to escalate the conflict. Probably not the best way, if you're looking for an accord, but I learned a long time ago that the rabid right are only interested in victory, not compromise, so why fucking bother playing nice?

Why indeed? :thumbsup:

 

[Mayhem]

The liberals here are going to have to tread lightly that they don't have to forfeit their Lib card, you know, because of their affinity for these evil things called firearms.

I know that sigs become invisible to regulars, but read mine again. I've always said that the Liberals were co-opted into "anti-2nd Amendment" the same way many Conservatives would rather not be chained to the church/religion. And both sides seem to be stuck with their own particular albatross strapped to their neck.

 

[Rey C.]

Socially, then, you are no doubt a liberal. As far as the classification shit, I think you'd be hard pressed to define me seeing as the last couple of pres elections I voted Baldwin and Nader, and I won't tell you who I voted for that one time before those two (but I regret it).

Again Scott, you need to learn that there are more than two camps when it comes to politics and political views. We do not live in a chocolate/vanilla, black/white world. This is what I was talking about in regard to conservatives/Republicans being infected by bifurcation. No, I am most certainly not a social conservative. I am opposed to any sort of ideology that mandates how people must think or act. On many/most social issues, I am a libertarian. In general, I support the right of the individual to do what he thinks is best for him, as long as his actions do not directly affect someone else. So I believe that if I want a car that can top 150 mph, as long as I don't terrorize the public roads, that's my business. If I want an AK variant with a 100 round drum mag, as long as I don't go on a shooting spree, that's my business. If I want to view pornography with consenting, adult performers, that includes fetishes that some may not approve of, that's my businesses. If I want to smoke dope or drink moonshine, as long as I'm not bothering anyone else (and I can source it without using the services of narco-terrorists or cartels), that's my business too - the same is true of prostitution. Where I differ with some libertarians (small "l") is on the question of what constitutes harming others or society in general. But few liberals and no social conservatives/Evangelicals hold the same views that I do on the issues I mentioned above. Where I tend to butt heads the most with so-called liberals is when I'm dealing with radical feminists. Much like social conservatives, they also seem to have a bifurcated way of thinking. If you don't agree with them and their views, then you must be a misogynist (one of the most over-used/misapplied words in the English language, IMO).

But when I see you rail against Romney as if he's the devil himself I just don't see it, as Obama is hardly a saint.

As was said by more than a few Republicans and conservatives during and after the GOP primaries, "Mitt Romney is not an easy candidate to like." That's an issue that he has to work through. So whether I agree with Obama or not, no, I just don't like Romney. I've never said that he was the devil. But probably more than most here, I have dealt with people like Romney. Because of my current profession, I deal with Romney types and Bain Capital-like companies all the time. There is good and bad when it comes to private equity. But because I have seen the bad side on more than enough occasions, I'm not inclined to want one of that ilk in the White House. I don't feel that it would be good for the republic. Bring me a Jack Kemp-like person and the GOP will likely get my vote. But since a Jack Kemp-like person would likely be condemned as a RINO by these modern day extremists, I don't see the GOP nominating anyone with the values and approach that I can relate to any time soon. Counter to what Reagan did, they're turning the GOP into a small tent party. And IMO, I think unless they change that path, they are doomed longer term.

So by opposing Romney, you think that I'm 100% on the Obama bandwagon? OK. :dunno: But be careful with that bifurcated thinking, Scott. Here's an example of what that sort of assumptive, on/off thinking can lead to:

"Said I never had much use for one...never said I didn't know how to use it."

 

[Mr. Daystar]

All of these so far are pussy weapons.

I will have the Chinese M1 L1 Tripple Pulse Assault Rifle (the one the mercs use in the movie Deep Rising) if it was real. 1000 round capacity, air cooled, water tight. Mini chaingun heaven so it is. The ideal zombie apocalypse weapon!. Well that and having MacGyver on myside as well would be.

I believe the rules stated no fictional, or future weapons. If your going to break the rules, at least break them right, and go for "Metal Storm" technology.

You think a .50 cal. sniper rifle, capable of a 2 or 3 mile kill shot is a pussy weapon?

What country is so unsafe that people need to carry a gun?

All of 'em! With the exceptions of The Arctic, and Antarctic circles (no humans, no danger)