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say what!!!! how do you have a successful relationship if your girl dont let you eat out at womanland? that sucks! i love it.
Not just for you but for almost all of you. Where did you find these women? My wife was virgin when we married. Not only does my wife not swallow, she:
a. doesn't go down without a police warrant
b. doesn't allow me to go down on her
c. acts repulsed when I cum on her body when TF'ing
d. only gave me a hj once, maybe twice in over 4 yrs of marriage
e. If she's feeling frisky, like really frisky, watches porn for the sound effects only, but will NOT let me view it "DON'T LOOK!!!"
f. would be crushed if she found out that I'm looking at porn sites now (shhhhh!)
So to say I'm Incredible Hulk green with envy is an absolute understatement. I appreciated what someone said about being intament in all circumstances. I try that, but she is still a sucker for vanilla, occassional quicky sex.
I will pay cash money for some helpful advice from anyone, especially the women.
PS Anal sex - HAAA! Although it was flattering that she says I'm too big for both anal and oral, what good is that? I'm off the market so bragging about my size is meaningless. Besides, I think it's just a convenient excuse.
Not just for you but for almost all of you. Where did you find these women? My wife was virgin when we married. Not only does my wife not swallow, she:
a. doesn't go down without a police warrant
b. doesn't allow me to go down on her
c. acts repulsed when I cum on her body when TF'ing
d. only gave me a hj once, maybe twice in over 4 yrs of marriage
e. If she's feeling frisky, like really frisky, watches porn for the sound effects only, but will NOT let me view it "DON'T LOOK!!!"
f. would be crushed if she found out that I'm looking at porn sites now (shhhhh!)
So to say I'm Incredible Hulk green with envy is an absolute understatement. I appreciated what someone said about being intament in all circumstances. I try that, but she is still a sucker for vanilla, occassional quicky sex.
I will pay cash money for some helpful advice from anyone, especially the women.
PS Anal sex - HAAA! Although it was flattering that she says I'm too big for both anal and oral, what good is that? I'm off the market so bragging about my size is meaningless. Besides, I think it's just a convenient excuse.
Wow, I feel for you. I had a girlfriend like that. There was just no feelings between us. I guess if the love is there then it dosen't really matter but those are just fun little extras. It's like a great dvd without bonus features. It's great by itself but....
I don't really know if there's any advice to give. Women are all different (or so I have been told):dunno:
I really appreciate you taking the time to share that with me and to read my posting, but with all due respect that is absolutely not true. I love her dearly, take out the trash, clean up the house, take her out on dates like we just met, compliment her beauty, etc but nothing. I even told her one of my fantacies is for her to strattle my face like a rodeo bull rider (I was soft and gentle with my language to her) - uhhh nope.
Sex is NOT extra. It is a deep and buried itch in the soul that needs to be scratched. And so here I am, wearing a mask and sneeking around in the redlight districts of cyberspace. Keep the advice flowing.
Sounds like you could do with a new wife.
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Ditching the wife because she's not putting out is a little extreme don't you think? I am sure there is somebody out there that can share their pearls of wisdom on how they got their once 18th century Englishwoman in bed to loosen up and be a little adventurous.
Speaking of, you had me hook line and sinker until you got to the may having to cheat part. I refuse to trade in one ailment of the soul - starving a deep craving for a sexual appetite that the wife isn't serving up, for another ailment - never ending guilt of infidelity. I think snooping around the internet is where I draw the line, and I'm trying to curb that addiction.
Thanks Peter Gazinya for the detailed and thoughtful reply. I really appreciate it and got a lot from it, especially about not trying to move the earth thinking I was going to change something about someone that is not in her character. I am still not going to let leave her to believe that she is off the hook from trying to give a little. That's what a marriage is about - giving and taking on both ends. Sometimes your spouse can assume that just because you exchange rings that you are stuck with whatever they give you, or lack thereof, especially if she knows I will never cheat. I have to remedy that.
Speaking of, you had me hook line and sinker until you got to the may having to cheat part. I refuse to trade in one ailment of the soul - starving a deep craving for a sexual appetite that the wife isn't serving up, for another ailment - never ending guilt of infidelity. I think snooping around the internet is where I draw the line, and I'm trying to curb that addiction.
I'm afraid, (but hopefully wrong) that it might not be so easy. I'm not sure any amount of advice will allow you to perform some magical transformation in the woman you chose to marry. People are wired the way they are and, in my experience, they are not sexually adventurous because you ask them to be. It's either in them or its not. It's an extension of their personality. If they're the open, shameless, self confident types with a welcoming view of the world around them and not a care of what that world thinks, chances are they tend to be on the freaky side in bed. If they are more reserved, gentile, conservative, and conscientious of social norms then sex will tend to be a little more vanilla.
I used to date this woman who was an absolute free spirit, laughed more than anyone I'd ever met, and just welcomed everything in the world around her as a chance to learn something or experience something new. She never talked crudely, was socially reserved talking about sexuality, but she was a fucking BLAST in the sack. Nothing was off limits. Facials, anal, ass-to-mouth, vibrators, pissing, rim jobs. It was all there and it was the time of my life. We were partners in some serious sexual exploration but never totally "clicked" as two people that could spend our lives together, so we broke up but remained friends. A month or two later a buddy of mine stopped by my office as I was on my way out to have lunch with her and he tagged along. After 1 HOUR with her we we're driving away and he says "She's seems very cool. Open, intelligent, and definitely in tune with the world around her. I bet she's awesome in bed". It was her personality, that in less than an hour my buddy, who is also very good at reading people, pegged her as a fun one.
I am now involved with a very independent, somewhat more reserved woman, who is a little more closed up and protective of herself and how much of the world she lets in. It's early with her but I already know that she probably won't be drinking my cum out of shot glass, sucking my cock straight from her ass, or having me pee on her clit. And though not a minute goes by that I don't miss my 41 yr old porn star in disguise, there are other reasons why I date this girl. We have so many of the same interests and her independence is both a challenge and an inspiration to me. If we hook up for the long term I hope I can introduce her to my dark world of uninhibited debauchery but I also have no expectation that she will transform into some cock hungry cum guzzler. So I go into this knowing that I probably won't be ramming any funnels up her ass and I must accept that. Or get bored and try to find another freak. You do things for your own reasons. If I stayed with the freak, I'd always be looking for someone who closer fits my personality and interests. And, who knows, if I stay with Ms. Independence tomboy type, I may forever be looking for Mrs. Cumonmyface. We'll see though, hopefully we can assimilate into some middle ground with this girl. If not, I guarantee I'm down the road.
People only change so much and I hope you're not banging your head against the wall trying to move the earth.
You might have to cheat.
Nah, hey dude that was a joke about the cheating part. It's little comedic barb like I end a lot of my posts. I meant every word I said except for the cheating part. YOu have a healthy, realistic outlook on your marriage and I wish you all the luck in the world in getting some take and giving some give.
You may want to check out Dan Savage's advice column http://www.avclub.com/content/savagelove. He's a sick twisted perverted individual and alot of his column is advice on how spouses and partners should be what he calls "GGG" - Good, Game, and Giving. Not only is it informative but the dude is also funny as hell. I read it every week.