Does it bother you that some porn stars REFUSE to work with black guys?

[Hot Mega]

Vanessa Blue isn't a white porn star who doesn't do IR, so obviously she doesn't have the answer to why girls refuse to work with black men.

She doesn't have to be if her assertions are based on first hand, non public knowledge. Which is backed up by many other anecdotal industry statements, interviews, etc. I could flip the same argument back on you...presumably you're not "a white porn star who doesn't do IR" so nor do you or how could you know?? Ohh, you're going by what people say in public...I'll address that later.

Why would those girls lie that they aren't attracted to black men? THINK ABOUT IT.

Why?? Are you serious? First, you do understand that in the context of being paid to fuck...it's highly likely you will be paid to fuck someone you're not attracted to at some point no matter what stripe they are???

That said, maybe saying what they say in those cases is better than publicly saying what some have privately been shown to say (which you apparently missed Vanessa Blue attesting to) which is, I'm a racist, my b/f or hubby is, my studio is, my family members are or some of my fans are.

Most people know that general I/R isn't generally as taboo (still for some people) as black and white I/R...more specifically, black male/white female. So to me when you try and draw up other I/R comparisons all I see is smoke and mirrors.

Nikki Benz was another who claimed the "not attracted" to line but then it was later found that wasn't the case so much as some producer/b/f she was with who fiercely, racistly and strictly forbade it.

So again, everything that glitters isn't always gold.

Further, have you ever noticed how European and Canadian chicks overwhelmingly don't seem to have the "not attracted to" issue as many American/Amercanized chicks seem to have?? If you really consider it, it's pretty striking. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be they're just all somehow attracted to black guys too?? Or the more likely scenario, it doesn't matter to them nor anyone they're associated with who they fuck on camera and it damn sure doesn't come down to who they're "attracted" to.

Sylvia Saint as best I can tell not only did I/R but was in a relationship with a black performer. The alleged pummeling she took in the "industry" and with her so called fan base for that simple "transgression" nearly hounded her out of the Milky Way.

Again, I don't give a shit what these chicks do or don't do and don't make the mistake of assuming my responses bely something different. I'm merely responding to points in a thread as I would in any thread that I had a point to make in.

But as far as I've seen, the criticism chicks who are perceived to be racist or otherwise get for refusing to do I/R with blacks is a grain of sand on a beach in comparison to the criticism and in some cases threats against the chicks who do. That should at least be noteworthy to you.

 

[pornlaw]

Vanessa Blue isn't a white porn star who doesn't do IR, so obviously she doesn't have the answer to why girls refuse to work with black men. My opinion is based on what I read from those girls in the past and believe me, they are the ones who know why they don't do IR. It's all about attraction. Here is a list of well known girls who have said in interviews, on forums like freeones and ADT that they don't do IR because they aren't attracted to black men: Vicky Vette, Tera Patrick, Asia Carrera, Neesa, Sunny Lane, Amy Reid, Stormy Daniels, Brooke Belle, Ashlynn Brooke, Alektra Blue, Penny Porsche, Nikki Tyler, Jenteal, Puma Swede, Jessica Drake,Rachel Roxx, Hannah West, Ginger Lee, Carmella Bing, Holly Halston, Lisa Lipps,Mallory Rae and many others. Why would those girls lie that they aren't attracted to black men? THINK ABOUT IT.

Cause its better than saying I'm a racist or that my BF is a racist or my family is full of racists...... or here's a big one -- my agent is a racist and will not book me with black men/women because he thinks it devalues my career.

I know and represent some of the girls on your list and I can tell you I have never heard any of them say in private that they arent attracted to blackmen or are racist themselves. There are a lot of outside forces that effect a women's career in this industry.

Not saying attraction isnt never a part of the equation, but all things being equal, its not about attraction.

 

[Will E Worm]

This question again!?

Some people don't want to have sex with a black man.

Get over it, move on, and grow up. :thefinger

This is getting ridiculous.

We agree.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

This question again!?

Some people don't want to have sex with a black man.

Get over it, move on, and grow up. :thefinger



We agree.

Agree!

Fact is that if this women really, really wanted black dick, they would be getting it. So get over it... Some women like purple cocks, some don't. Some women like baby pink cocks, some don't. I prefer caramel and beige cocks though, sometimes brown too. AND not only the color has to be right for me, but the size too! Some women LOVE chocolate, so why not focus on them instead??

Sorry guys, but even the color of a cock can turn a woman off, and that doesn't mean they are racists. There is someone out there for pretty much everybody.

What's a shame is some of this men obsessed over a woman that isn't turned on by their race, when there are so many women from their own race willing to fuck them!!! I think they are the real ones with internalized racism here!!!!!!! Enough said!

 

[BillWilliams]

I'm not attracted to black girls either but I find asian, indian, white and latino women attractive. If I was a pornstar, I would with women of all races but black. I just can't do a black girl. Does that make me racist? No. It's called preference.

 

[BillWilliams]

Nikki Benz was another who claimed the "not attracted" to line but then it was later found that wasn't the case so much as some producer/b/f she was with who fiercely, racistly and strictly forbade it.

.

How can you say something like that with no proof? Nikki Benz is a grown woman and I'm sure if she wanted to work with black men, she would do it. It doesn't matter what anyone around her will say about it. Nikki made it clear
that she just doesn't find black men attractive.

 

[dbradford8589]

Who cares who they work with as long as they are working.

 

[Hot Mega]

How can you say something like that with no proof? Nikki Benz is a grown woman and I'm sure if she wanted to work with black men, she would do it. It doesn't matter what anyone around her will say about it. Nikki made it clear
that she just doesn't find black men attractive.

I don't know why you believe you're helping yourself the more you post...honestly.

Nikki Benz in her own words;

If you knew anything about my career, then how could you say that I am "actively avoiding fucking black guys". Ever since I've entered the industry I've been scooped up and always under contract. First with Pleasure Productions, then Jill Kelly Productions, and most recently Teravision.

The obvious implication in her response was that it had much less to do with "not attracted" and much more to do with the studio she was contracted to (one of Vanessa Blue's points). Her being "grown" has shit to do with it while she's under contract. Again, "clueless".

http://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=2/topic_id=81681/forum_id=5/cat_id=1/81681.htm

And when you have guys like this in control of her career while she's under contract...it get's pretty clear....

"And there was that crazy amount of money Scott Justice paid Brittany Skye," Skeeter recalls. "I remember him getting so mad. He read that she was going to do interracial for Jules Jordan. And he was furious because he didn't want his blond bitch who he's cheating on his wife with- doing interracial. He even asked me how could I let my wife do interracial. And I told him the truth: how could I not? I think it's a beautiful thing.

"He'd say I wouldn't even let my wife talk to a black guy. I told him why are you mad at her [Skye] for doing that for Jules Jordan? First of all, Jules paid her a lot of money to do it. And he could advertise all he wants, but Brittany did interracial before that- a year or two before- he just got worked like a trick. Jules has been worked before on a girl's first anal when it even wasn't her first anal.

"But if it makes him feel good, more power to him."

You're free to read the rest of the interview here where it talks about Justice's association with Nikki Benz and how she got started...

http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=25913

Like I said before, "clueless".

 

[BillWilliams]

Hot Mega, how do you explain that someone like Vicky Vette and Penny Porsche who came in the porn business in their 40s (38 in Vicky's case) chose not to do IR? If we were to agree with the reasons you gave, Vicky had nothing to lose if she had done IR. But she didn't and she said in her thread that it was because she doesn't find black men attractive. She would have made a lof of money if she did IR.I have no reason not to believe her...so how do you explain that?

 

[Hot Mega]

Hot Mega, how do you explain that someone like Vicky Vette and Penny Porsche who came in the porn business in their 40s (38 in Vicky's case) chose not to do IR? If we were to agree with the reasons you gave, Vicky had nothing to lose if she had done IR. But she didn't and she said in her thread that it was because she doesn't find black men attractive. She would have made a lof of money if she did IR.I have no reason not to believe her...so how do you explain that?

So for the record, you asked how I could level such a claim in Nikki Benz's case. With the steam out of your sails on that issue, you now want to question me about a couple of other porn babes....

As far as the "didn't find attractive" line goes, I thought it's been fairly demonstrated that when porn chicks have said that in the past it was merely a cover for other reasons. For example, if I was a porn chick and worked for a clown like Scott Justice who holds not only the strings to your bookings but the purse strings to your payday....I might tow the "not attracted to" line too for fear this clown might go ballistic and "black ball" me (pun intended).

But as far as VV and the other chick...Who flippin' knows...do we have to run down the litany of possible reasons UH-GIN?? What does age have to do with it if (for example) it's the case people they're associated with, related to or in a relationship with disapprove vehemently??

Personally, I've seen Vicky Vette hunkering down on what looked to be some pretty fugly dudes which again calls in to question the whole notion of "attracted to". I can understand why she'd be fucking some fugly dude...just like some of these other porn chicks....because it's not necessarily about attraction.

I STILL don't quite understand why some of you continue to view the subject under the premise that we're talking about regular relationships and not the reality of performing porn scenes.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

So for the record, you asked how I could level such a claim in Nikki Benz's case. With the steam out of your sails on that issue, you now want to question me about a couple of other porn babes....

As far as the "didn't find attractive" line goes, I thought it's been fairly demonstrated that when porn chicks have said that in the past it was merely a cover for other reasons. For example, if I was a porn chick and worked for a clown like Scott Justice who holds not only the strings to your bookings but the purse strings to your payday....I might tow the "not attracted to" line too for fear this clown might go ballistic and "black ball" me (pun intended).

But as far as VV and the other chick...Who flippin' knows...do we have to run down the litany of possible reasons UH-GIN?? What does age have to do with it if (for example) it's the case people they're associated with, related to or in a relationship with disapprove vehemently??

Personally, I've seen Vicky Vette hunkering down on what looked to be some pretty fugly dudes which again calls in to question the whole notion of "attracted to". I can understand why she'd be fucking some fugly dude...just like some of these other porn chicks....because it's not necessarily about attraction.

I STILL don't quite understand why some of you continue to view the subject under the premise that we're talking about regular relationships and not the reality of performing porn scenes.

Hotmega, in my humble opinion, just because you think a guy is "fugly" doesn't mean that the porn star shares your opinion.:dunno:
And let's just pretend that this is true, that this pornstars are being threatened by racist producers. Why the hell do you wanna watch someone who doesn't have the courage to stand up for what they believe, especially when it involves racism? I think that just hints more of self-hatred than anything else. If you in fact believe it is racism that is behind it, don't try to be so understading of it and look for excuses for the pornstar behaviour. Just stop watching them until they perform the acts you want them to perform.:2 cents:

 

[power-san]

To answer the question, it doesn't bother me.
If you don't find someone attractive, then there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[BillWilliams]

Personally, I've seen Vicky Vette hunkering down on what looked to be some pretty fugly dudes which again calls in to question the whole notion of "attracted to". I can understand why she'd be fucking some fugly dude...just like some of these other porn chicks....because it's not necessarily about attraction.

I STILL don't quite understand why some of you continue to view the subject under the premise that we're talking about regular relationships and not the reality of performing porn scenes.

Someone pointed that out in Vicky's thread before and she handled it pretty well. She said beauty is in the eyes of the beholder...so obviously she finds those guys more attractive than Mr Marcus, Sean Michaels and all the black pornstars. I believe the guy was talking about Ron Jeremy.

 

[Hot Mega]

Hotmega, in my humble opinion, just because you think a guy is "fugly" doesn't mean that the porn star shares your opinion.:dunno:
And let's just pretend that this is true, that this pornstars are being threatened by racist producers. Why the hell do you wanna watch someone who doesn't have the courage to stand up for what they believe, especially when it involves racism? I think that just hints more of self-hatred than anything else. If you in fact believe it is racism that is behind it, don't try to be so understading of it and look for excuses for the pornstar behaviour. Just stop watching them until they perform the acts you want them to perform.:2 cents:

Wait a minute.... 'Mega doesn't give a shit who does what. I'm merely responding to points in this thread according to logic. I have no dog in this fight.

You don't have to pretend, it's a reality that agents, producers and studios engage in certain policies. I've read enough frank interviews and statements to believe that.

As far as me being altruistic when it comes to watching a chick who lies down for a living....trying to stand up for herself and place principle over money...:1orglaugh Sorry, it would appear that train left the station long ago. Which is I suppose what we're talking about in this thread. But honestly you would seem to have me confused with someone who would be inclined to take it that seriously. I wouldn't.

But the notion that some porn babe would rather say be fucking Ed Powers as opposed to a dude like Justin Slayer just because of race and it not be because of some racism is frankly pretty laughable.

Just like if I wouldn't fuck this chick

http://www.neongalleries.com/playboy/ida-ljungqvist/ida34a5be1.html

..and the sole reasoning being because she's black....I would think any reasonable person would think either A. I took the short bus to school or B. I'm a racist.:dunno:

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Wait a minute.... 'Mega doesn't give a shit who does what. I'm merely responding to points in this thread according to logic. I have no dog in this fight.

You don't have to pretend, it's a reality that agents, producers and studios engage in certain policies. I've read enough frank interviews and statements to believe that.

As far as me being altruistic when it comes to watching a chick who lies down for a living....trying to stand up for herself and place principle over money...:1orglaugh Sorry, it would appear that train left the station long ago. Which is I suppose what we're talking about in this thread. But honestly you would seem to have me confused with someone who would be inclined to take it that seriously. I wouldn't.

But the notion that some porn babe would rather say be fucking Ed Powers as opposed to a dude like Justin Slayer just because of race and it not be because of some racism is frankly pretty laughable.

Just like if I wouldn't fuck this chick

http://www.neongalleries.com/playboy/ida-ljungqvist/ida34a5be1.html

..and the sole reasoning being because she's black....I would think any reasonable person would think either A. I took the short bus to school or B. I'm a racist.:dunno:

I searched for both Ed Powers and Justin Slayer. Also looked at the link of the girl you provided.

I find it quite interesting that in nearly every picture of Justin Slayer I found, he is fucking a girl of a different race, usually a white one. You rarely see him as a black man fucking a black woman. I have to wonder why!

I don't find Ed Powers attractive, but I'm sure some women might go crazy over maybe his green eyes? Don't you see this all the time, women paired with not so good-looking guys? Yet they find them very attractive for some reason.:eek:

Finding someone attractive is not always the same as someone turning you on. I may think Adriana Lima is gorgeous, but that doesn't mean I wanna have sex with her. Some men in another thread dissed her skinny frame, for instance, over the more curvacious Veronica Zemanova. Does that mean they are the analogue of a "racist" towards skinny women?? I don't think so, it's just their preference.

The "black" girl you provided is not really black. She is a mix from Sweddish and Tanzanian parents, it says it right there. She is pretty, but what if a man's ideal is to fuck blondes? Why does he has to fuck a dark girl to proof he is not racist, if that's the opposite of what really turns him on?

What I'm basically saying is that when it comes to sexual preference, we ALL discriminate. It can be on the basis of sex, weight, color, race, height, whatever, but we all discriminate when selecting our partners. Just beause you are more open to more colors doesn't mean people who are not are hateful towards those people. And I bet that while you are open when it comes to the color and race of people, you may not be as open when it comes to other things like: height or weight. All this being physical characteristics that affect sexual attraction.

 

[feller469]

Let's see. A woman in the United States has the power and right to decide whose cock, if any, goes into her body and some people have an issue with it.

Why do some people think the women HAVE to work with people the "fans" want them to? It is her choice. End of discussion.

 

[biomech]

I really don't care, as long they still fuck on screen.
Black, white, asian, hispanic. I don't care.
Each person has the right to choose who they will and won't work with.
I don't take it personally as some sort of "Wow she must not like ____ people" just because I have not seen her work with them.
This issue has been beat to death. It's porn, not anything else.

 

[Hot Mega]

I searched for both Ed Powers and Justin Slayer. Also looked at the link of the girl you provided.

I find it quite interesting that in nearly every picture of Justin Slayer I found, he is fucking a girl of a different race, usually a white one. You rarely see him as a black man fucking a black woman. I have to wonder why!

Uh, duh....wouldn't that stand to reason since the OVERWHELMING majority of female talent in porn is white?? Not to mention I/R apparently is the fastest growing genre in porn??

I don't find Ed Powers attractive, but I'm sure some women might go crazy over maybe his green eyes? Don't you see this all the time, women paired with not so good-looking guys? Yet they find them very attractive for some reason.

I can detect for all of you gymnastics on this issue you're beginning to peer through some of the absurdity. I'm certain there are hot chicks who are clamoring to fuck Ed Powers too......just as soon as they see how fat his wallet is or his $100k car...But IF it's the case that some chick is looking at the two guys side by side and she considers that she's not inclined to fuck either but if she must she will take pay to fuck Ed Powers just because he's white, what would you call that? That is racism. Not to be confused with the further perspective of racial bigotry but it's racism.:dunno:

Finding someone attractive is not always the same as someone turning you on. I may think Adriana Lima is gorgeous, but that doesn't mean I wanna have sex with her. Some men in another thread dissed her skinny frame, for instance, over the more curvacious Veronica Zemanova. Does that mean they are the analogue of a "racist" towards skinny women?? I don't think so, it's just their preference.

I wasn't born last night. I understand the difference. But there you are again drawing it out into a circumstance that's practically not relevant. Some of these chicks have never met or seen some of these guys in their entire life....porn babes are not looking for soul mates. You act as if we're talking about some romance novel.

The "black" girl you provided is not really black. She is a mix from Sweddish and Tanzanian parents, it says it right there. She is pretty, but what if a man's ideal is to fuck blondes? Why does he has to fuck a dark girl, if that's the opposite of what really turns him on?

I've fucked many chicks that weren't my "ideal" chick....I suspect that's the case with virtually every man who's ever fucked more than one woman. That doesn't mean they weren't attractive enough for me to fuck. Secondly, for what you've been able to ascertain by looking at her background...do you think she walks around with that on her forehead or do you believe the first thing someone would notice is that she's black??? I say people see her as black...as black as people who care about that stuff see Barack Obama (who is mixed too BTW). Point being, from what I can see black is not some monolithic look other than skin pigment. That is all the more reason why a statement asserting someone doesn't find blacks attractive in any event is even more absurd....unless of course they are racist about it in any event. Is the picture becoming clearer now?

What I'm basically saying is that when it comes to sexual preference, we ALL discriminate. It can be on the basis of sex, weight, color, race, height, whatever, but we all discriminate when selecting our partners. Just beause you are more open to more colors doesn't mean people who are not are hateful towards those people. And I bet that while you are open when it comes to the color and race of people, you may not be as open when it comes to other things like: height or weight. All this being physical characteristics that affect sexual attraction.

When it comes to sexual preference among people who don't get paid to fuck you mean.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Uh, duh....wouldn't that stand to reason since the OVERWHELMING majority of female talent in porn is white?? Not to mention I/R apparently is the fastest growing genre in porn??



I can detect for all of you gymnastics on this issue you're beginning to peer through some of the absurdity. I'm certain there are hot chicks who are clamoring to fuck Ed Powers too......just as soon as they see how fat his wallet is or his $100k car...But IF it's the case that some chick is looking at the two guys side by side and she considers that she's not inclined to fuck either but if she must she will take pay to fuck Ed Powers just because he's white, what would you call that? That is racism. Not to be confused with the further perspective of racial bigotry but it's racism.:dunno:



I wasn't born last night. I understand the difference. But there you are again drawing it out into a circumstance that's practically not relevant. Some of these chicks have never met or seen some of these guys in their entire life....porn babes are not looking for soul mates. You act as if we're talking about some romance novel.



I've fucked many chicks that weren't my "ideal" chick....I suspect that's the case with virtually every man who's ever fucked more than one woman. That doesn't mean they weren't attractive enough for me to fuck. Secondly, for what you've been able to ascertain by looking at her background...do you think she walks around with that on her forehead or do you believe the first thing someone would notice is that she's black??? I say people see her as black...as black as people who care about that stuff see Barack Obama (who is mixed too BTW). Point being, from what I can see black is not some monolithic look other than skin pigment. That is all the more reason why a statement asserting someone doesn't find blacks attractive in any event is even more absurd....unless of course they are racist about it in any event. Is the picture becoming clearer now?



When it comes to sexual preference among people who don't get paid to fuck you mean.

Then we will have to agree to disagree. As I mentioned before, just because you are getting payed to fuck, doesn't mean you have to fuck anything that moves and is legal, especially when it completely turns you off.
Speaking for myself, I am not turned on by very pale people, just like I'm not turned on by very dark people, no matter how different they may look. I am generally not into Asian men as well. If I were a porn star, I would love to just fuck Latin and Mediterrenean men, or any guy that fits my type. But that most mean I am some bigoted racist after all, even though I think we are all equal and deserve the same rights and opportunities.
I agree that black people don't have a monolitic look, but fat people don't have a monolitic look, short people don't have a monolitic look as well...yet people still reject others based on this characteristic all the time. Therefore that's not a very convincing argument.:2 cents:

Perhaps some of you should lobby the government or sue the porn companies so as to end all discrimination in porn, as a failure to provide you "goods and services" based on race or whatever....:1orglaugh

 

[jasonk282]

just because you are getting payed to fuck, doesn't mean you have to fuck anything that moves and is legal, especially when it completely turns you off.

Yeah it does, when you sign a contract you a expected to perform certian duties if you do not agree with what your duties are then don't sign the contract.