Does it bother you that some porn stars REFUSE to work with black guys?

[sz_matters]

The only thing that bothers me are the girl's that say they won't fuck black guys because it will hurt their career or their popularity. Haven't they heard of Jenna Haze, Bree Olson, Kristina Rose, Jayden Jaymes or Asa Akira? Hasn't hurt their careers much...lol.

 

[sz_matters]

I don't care if Asian, Latina, White,.. etc. female performers don't want to perform with black male performers. As long as they stick to that decision throughout their careers. If they decide to do IR after 3 to 4 years in the business, they rightly ridiculedby fans for trying to increase their rates for IR.

He's talking about you, Amy Reid...lol.

 

[spacearrow99]

The only thing that bothers me are the girl's that say they won't fuck black guys because it will hurt their career or their popularity. Haven't they heard of Jenna Haze, Bree Olson, Kristina Rose, Jayden Jaymes or Asa Akira? Hasn't hurt their careers much...lol.

I don't care about girls that don't want to fuck black guys. I just don't like the ones who don't shoot IR until 3 or 4 years into their careers. Many on them are hoping IR will help them resuscitate their careers.

 

[AgentRaven77]

I don't care about girls that don't want to fuck black guys. I just don't like the ones who don't shoot IR until 3 or 4 years into their careers. Many on them are hoping IR will help them resuscitate their careers.

Sometimes it most girl will IR for to get more IR fans just like a girl that does anal. Also the problem is that black men in porn are been treated like shit, look at Vivid, Wicked, DP, and ever Brazzers. They don't have shoot BM/WF scenes but they do get WM/BF scenes. As a IR fans I don't support those companies that don't do IR, and companies that make IR with ghetto theme (Dogfart or Huh Huh). I will buy IR from companies like Jules Jordan Video, Elegant Angel (LT), WCP, Evil Angel, JSI. I don't mind a girl to do IR to wait for 2 or 3 years. Also IR fans need to support girls who do IR like these named

Tori Black
Kagney Linn Karter
Lisa Ann
Jayden Jaymes
Asa Akira
Jade Stevens
Bobbi Starr
Sarah Vandella
Bree Olson

Also on ADT there is a director name Nica Noella who is a G/G performer and a director who talk bout racism

A few different things are going on with respect to race - and racism - in porn.
First of all, the adult industry is inherently and repulsively racist. I always call it the last bastian of blatant, old school racism in western culture. It's disgusting, period.

And because of the way interracial relationships are often depicted in porn, some girls give their agents a "no interracial" blanket policy. This is so they're not booked for scenes where both races are depicted as vulgar stereotypes to be made fun of, and where the sex is orchestrated in the most demeaning way possible.

There are several girls with a "no interracial" policy who have made it clear to me that they'll shoot interracial scenes for my studio anytime. Zoe Voss is one of those girls. She just wants to make sure agents aren't booking her for scenes she doesn't feel good about being in. And yes, she has already done an interracial scene for me, with Mickey Mod.

That issue aside, there are many white performers who won't work with black men or women in ANY type of production. Part of this stems from the "conventional wisdom" perpetrated by white men in porn that "If you do interracial you'll never get signed to a contract" or "you'll lose fans" or "you'll stop getting work with the best companies." None of that is true, but many girls still buy into it, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

But of course some performers refuse to perform interracial strictly for personal reasons. "I'm just not attracted," they explain (suggesting that they're "always" attracted to their white costars -- highly unlikely!!!)

As with all racism, I think it's just a product of ignorance and fear. And I've seen it on both sides of the camera. For instance, many white girl/girl fans openly expressed a preference for white, girl next door types to be cast. As a result, for years you really didn't see any black women cast in g/g scenes. But early in my g/g career I started casting Nyomi Banxxx, Ms. Platinum and Sincere Lemmore in multiple scenes, and once the fans "got to know" these women, they were requesting them like crazy.

And it's the same thing with many white performers who "get to know" a black performer and suddenly say "I don't do interracial but I want to do a scene with (Mr. Marcus)" or whomever.

When you get to know someone you stop seeing their color as a defining characteristic. And that's what we should be working on in porn, on both sides of the camera.

This is a white woman that said there is racism in porn, and she is telling like it is. Also guys like Mr Marcus, Lexington Steele and Sean michael like crap while James Deen and Manuel Ferrara get the royal treatment. Sean, Lex, and Marcus are bigger name then those two because they been in the game longer. Maybe these agent are telling girl not to do IR but also they said that all black men should be banned from porn

 

[raiden594]

Totally agree on that. I don't patronize these chicks at all. But hey, it's a business decision and I can''t fault them for that (even if I think it's stupid). I mean, why would you purposely alienate a whole demographic?

 

[AgentRaven77]

Totally agree on that. I don't patronize these chicks at all. But hey, it's a business decision and I can''t fault them for that (even if I think it's stupid). I mean, why would you purposely alienate a whole demographic?

Most of these girls will do IR for a big pay check, and it also will headline as there 1st Interracial on the cover. Some porn fans and people who worked in porn have a problem with it because label as the 1st Interracial scene, it won't work with a black girl in porn because she won't get a big paid check like the white girl do in porn for IR. black girls in porn get paid less and get less work. This is why black girls will nerve get a Elegant Angel Sept Superstar series movie because black woman can't sell. Also most white guy buy IR with BM/WF just like black guy buy it too. You see less WM/BF porn been made.

 

[raiden594]

Most of these girls will do IR for a big pay check, and it also will headline as there 1st Interracial on the cover. Some porn fans and people who worked in porn have a problem with it because label as the 1st Interracial scene, it won't work with a black girl in porn because she won't get a big paid check like the white girl do in porn for IR. black girls in porn get paid less and get less work. This is why black girls will nerve get a Elegant Angel Sept Superstar series movie because black woman can't sell. Also most white guy buy IR with BM/WF just like black guy buy it too. You see less WM/BF porn been made.

I can remember years ago when Ms. Panther first came on the scene.

She did an interview with someone and in it I think the guy asked her why all of her flicks to that point had only been with white guys, and she said something to the effect that it paid her more money and that if she had her way she would only do interracial (and you see how long that lasted) for as long as possible. At first when I read it, it upset me; not gonna lie. But nowadays it doesn't phase me because these girls (those that last for more than two flicks) realize that they can't do this forever. It takes a special chick to be in the game as long as a Jada Fire, Marie Luv, or Misty Stone and still be relevant. I can't blame them for trying to "take the money and run", so to speak. But for anyone trying to build a loyal fanbase and hang around for more than a year, you've gotta reach out to as many publics (marketing lingo there) as possible.

Hopefully some of these new chicks breaking in the business now like Tila Flame, Ana Foxxx and others will hopefully think about that.

Just sayin'.

 

[DR. B]

I'm glad that nobody like's to work with black people. I just enjoy how they throw the race card out. I mean it's the woman's preference, but yet that excuse isn't good enough for them.

 

[raiden594]

I'm glad that nobody like's to work with black people. I just enjoy how they throw the race card out. I mean it's the woman's preference, but yet that excuse isn't good enough for them.

Well, I must say that this certainly adds to our conversation, eh men? Let's just acquiesce and think like everyone else and resist those urges of independent thought! Hail Hitler!!!!

 

[DR. B]

I mean it's the woman's preference, but yet that excuse isn't good enough for them.

Please read again :/

Well, I must say that this certainly adds to our conversation, eh men? Let's just acquiesce and think like everyone else and resist those urges of independent thought! Hail Hitler!!!!

again, read above quote. W H A T, P A R T, O F, "IT'S THEIR PREFERENCE" D O, Y O U, N O T, G E T?

and it's "Heil, Mein Führer!!!" Get it right, minority crybaby.

 

[raiden594]

Please read again :/



again, read above quote. W H A T, P A R T, O F, "IT'S THEIR PREFERENCE" D O, Y O U, N O T, G E T?

and it's "Heil, Mein Führer!!!" Get it right, minority crybaby.

LOL!!!!!! And you discredit yourself by contradicting your own quote.

Just as it is their preference to fuck whomever, IT IS MY PREFERENCE TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE (no pun intended)!

Next time, try not to bring a knife to a gunfight. Your debating skills are laughable. Now go away, you're blowing my high!

 

[AgentRaven77]

I can remember years ago when Ms. Panther first came on the scene.

She did an interview with someone and in it I think the guy asked her why all of her flicks to that point had only been with white guys, and she said something to the effect that it paid her more money and that if she had her way she would only do interracial (and you see how long that lasted) for as long as possible. At first when I read it, it upset me; not gonna lie. But nowadays it doesn't phase me because these girls (those that last for more than two flicks) realize that they can't do this forever. It takes a special chick to be in the game as long as a Jada Fire, Marie Luv, or Misty Stone and still be relevant. I can't blame them for trying to "take the money and run", so to speak. But for anyone trying to build a loyal fanbase and hang around for more than a year, you've gotta reach out to as many publics (marketing lingo there) as possible.

Hopefully some of these new chicks breaking in the business now like Tila Flame, Ana Foxxx and others will hopefully think about that.

Just sayin'.

Sad true is that most black woman will leave porn because of the less money, like Jade Fire and Marie Luv who most of there scene are with white guys also get lot of hate from black porn fans for it.

 

[spacearrow99]

Sad true is that most black woman will leave porn because of the less money, like Jade Fire and Marie Luv who most of there scene are with white guys also get lot of hate from black porn fans for it.

Those two were the nastiest black girls in porn. They got in the business at the right time when not many black female performers were doing the extreme stuff. They got hired for DPS/anal/spitting/gagging and being spat on/face slapping...etc. Jada and Marie were great performers. So IR directors and fans loved them, and they got hired over and over again for IR scenes. Atleast 90% of Shane Diesel's scenes are with women from other races, so I'm not going to get mad at Jada and Marie. They still did much black porn work, so black fans should give them a break.

 

[raiden594]

Those two were the nastiest black girls in porn. They got in the business at the right time when not many black female performers were doing the extreme stuff. They got hired for DPS/anal/spitting/gagging and being spat on/face slapping...etc. Jada and Marie were great performers. So IR directors and fans loved them, and they got hired over and over again for IR scenes. Atleast 90% of Shane Diesel's scenes are with women from other races, so I'm not going to get mad at Jada and Marie. They still did much black porn work, so black fans should give them a break.

Now I agree with you there. While Jada and Marie did a shit-load of IR, it was because they were in such demand. I give it to them, though, no matter how "big" they got, they never completely stopped doing black flicks. Some of these new chicks should take notes. I can remember when Bethany Benz graced us with her "talent" and "ability". When she first hit the scene all she did was interracial. But once she did her first black flick, now it's all we see her in.

 

[AgentRaven77]

Those two were the nastiest black girls in porn. They got in the business at the right time when not many black female performers were doing the extreme stuff. They got hired for DPS/anal/spitting/gagging and being spat on/face slapping...etc. Jada and Marie were great performers. So IR directors and fans loved them, and they got hired over and over again for IR scenes. Atleast 90% of Shane Diesel's scenes are with women from other races, so I'm not going to get mad at Jada and Marie. They still did much black porn work, so black fans should give them a break.

Those two were the top black pornstars, they did everything most of these black girls can't. But most of there scenes that they did thgat nasty stuff were with white men which got most black porn fans mad. Jade Fire did a scene for Ghetto Gaggers which we all know bout that shit and she got lot of hate from black porn fans who stop watching her scens after that. Sadly those two are now retire from porn, they nerve got some of the repect from most black porn fans but did gain most of the white male fans but it didn't stop them from doing black porn. Also they came at a time were black porn wasn't selling like it is today. Black porn was cool before 2000, because most of the black girl did some nasty stuff with black guys, but now after 1999 black porn wasn't the same as it is, lucky WCP, and Elegant Angel is kepting it alive and well

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Whatever...

Different strokes for different folks.

Myself personally, if I want to watch a porno I go out of my way to steer clear of certain things I don't want to see in it. If I see there is a black guy in it fucking a hot white chick I'll probably not be watching it. It's not important in some aspects to me what the "guy" looks like but it's still makes a difference to me. I don't give a shit if it's racist or not. Course, there are exceptions I guess. I've seen some pretty fricken butt ugly white guys that I wish would get the hell out of the bizz. So...maybe the industry or the girl has an idea of what will seel and what won't.

Same here. I don't watch BMWF (I find a lot of that stuff is made deliberately racist and offensive to White people) but I absolutely detest almost all the WMBF porn too.

You have some of the WORST White male performers popping up in those films, especially the ones made prior to 2010 or so. Not only were a lot of the guys not attracted to the women, but many of the performers and directors went out of their way to make the women uncomfortable and to say subtle and not so subtle racist comments. Just all around garbage. On the flip-side you have guys like Michael Stefano and Dave Hardman who genuinely liked the women but were problems in their own right. Stefano who never shuts the hell up in any of his movies and seems to think he's the star. Dave Hardman just being goofy, old and shady so the women are not into it.

I have seen a sea change where average to excellent production values are becoming the norm in WMBF porn and there's a new generation of performers that feel comfortable around one another. A lot of the earlier WMBF stuff was just so darn awkward, I'd prefer to just see the women by themselves in some solo work than with a half-assed White dude.

With that said, I'll give credit to Black Ice and some of the other BMBF centric studios for having some of the best cover art period. They really know how to find the best look and style in each female performer, a lot of non-Black centric studios have no clue how to make Black women look good.

 

[chinaman78]

No . They have a right to choose and they just may not be turned on by black guys .

 

[xfire]

LOL!!!!!! And you discredit yourself by contradicting your own quote.

Just as it is their preference to fuck whomever, IT IS MY PREFERENCE TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE (no pun intended)!

Next time, try not to bring a knife to a gunfight. Your debating skills are laughable. Now go away, you're blowing my high!

First of all, who are you? Talking about "dark dodgers" and some of the other shit you've mentioned is racist. Get off of Dr. B's nuts. It's not his fault you don't understand irony, wit, and sarcasm. You've posted enough to illuminate your racist agenda. You can't stand seeing black women with white men. We get it. You need to get over it.

 

[spacearrow99]

First of all, who are you? Talking about "dark dodgers" and some of the other shit you've mentioned is racist. Get off of Dr. B's nuts. It's not his fault you don't understand irony, wit, and sarcasm. You've posted enough to illuminate your racist agenda. You can't stand seeing black women with white men. We get it. You need to get over it.

xfire,

I haven't seen all of raiden's quotes. But Dr. B.'s quote was racist as well, so you shouldn't be defending the guy.

 

[xfire]

I haven't seen all of raiden's quotes. But Dr. B.'s quote was racist as well.

I'm glad you admit raiden is racist. Dr B, not so much.