Do you think it makes a guy a bad person if he will not marry a woman who has

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

The only way it doesn't make you a bad person is if you hold yourself to the same standard that you hold women. If you don't sleep around, and your number of sexual partners is less than 5, then thats perfectly acceptable. I don't sleep around and I wouldn't date a guy who did either. But answer me this - are you more concerned with the number of partners, or are you more concerned with if they were casual encounters or not? Because women have relationships, most of which don't work out. Women have sex with those that they're in love with. And when the relationship eventually ends, there's another notch on her bedpost. I'd understand completely if you didn't want to be with a woman who's had ten one-nite-stands, but if you're prejudice against women who just happened to have had alot of serious relationships...then thats pretty fucked up.

I honestly and truly hope to god though that you're going to tell me that you've only slept with two or three women. Otherwise this thread is fucking stupid, and you're a douchenozzle. This world is a two way street, and women have every right to fuck around if they should please without being judged by hypocritcal losers.

H'okayyyy... Where to start

I have dated three girls (counting the one I am with right now, hopefully she is the one I marry). The first girl I dated we didn't "do it" and the second one we did do it.

I am more so talking about this situation:

Girl is immature in high school and college, hangs out with and gets screwed by the "bad boys" who jam her and leave her, treat her like trash, and years later she realizes that the bad boys are just not for her. As a result she seeks out a fall back guy or the "nice guy" who is now rich and loaded and tries to get with him. The nice guy rejects her and just wants himself another woman from lets say another country (my friend is really into foreign women), people get mad at the guy and call him harsh and picky because he won't give the girl a chance when she never gave good guys a chance herself.

As for being in too many relationships, if a girl has had 5+ relationships which have failed then that either says something about her tolerance power or the type of people she attracts, either scenario I would have a tough time being with her.

And lets be honest, women are in their PRIME when they are in their early 20s, they use all of that nice beauty on the bad boy who treats them like trash and when they are used up they get with the nice guy. One issue, the nice guy gets the short end of the stick because the chick comes into the marriage not wanting to do anything with him.

Not only that but if I was in his situation that would KILL my self esteem, I would KNOW she only wants me for support and money. Because if it was up to pure attraction she would go for the scumbag who treats her like trash. She is using the guy as a fallback and as a guy she can "settle down with" and "treat like trash". In that situation why would anyone want to be with a woman like that.

I always wanted to be the nice guy and at the core, hard to admit I actually am but in real life I always put up a front and act like a Rottweiler when I am really just a Golden Retriever. Because no one likes Golden Retrievers.

I had all those paragraphs to explain my point and seems like most of you have been lost. I will sum it up.

It really says something if a chick has been with 10+ guys, because if that is the case then chances are when she settles down with you she will always know you are not as good as the other guys. In order for her to settle down with you, you probably have the outside factors like a good future and a good salary. You are the settle down with guy and not the guy who makes her world go round (your money does though), and when that is the case then why bother with a loose chick.

And hypocritical? LOL, my friend studied his butt off to be an engineer, he finished school early. I don't even think he had time for PORN xD.

 

[HeLovesPorn]

Well, hypocrites ARE losers. Looking at life with a "holier than thou" attitude makes you a piss poor person IMO. But thats just my opinion, obviously yours differs and thats cool too. I just hate hypocrites more than anything....especially when its a man having opinions on how a woman should be.

Oh that is fine mon amie And I fully understand where you are coming form in a sense. Sorry I just still don't buy the old '90s pop-culture worn out buzz phrase of Loser as I was recnetly telling my good firned and fellow Aspie named Megan via Skype the other day (she lives in the greater Toronto area) as some douche bag fuckwad was calling HER a Loser because she has Asperger's Syndrome like me, and we were both argreeing what a fucked up situation and person that was. Sorry but I just don't really believe in "winners" and "losers" form many persepctives, but thank you, Gratzie, Gracias and Merci becoupe for for respecting my beliefs. Your a sweet heart. And yeah men & women differ, naturally.

Thankfully every man is different, such as the femmes, and we're not all the same (thank God). Stay cool, beautiful.

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

oh crap not feminazis

Are you assuming all men who want a woman who isn't a slut are hypocrites who have slept around?

What about men who didn't get any in college and did shit like study their ass off to get A's in tough majors but after they have a career they want a woman?

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

Oh that is fine mon amie And I fully understand where you are coming form in a sense. Sorry I just still don't buy the old '90s pop-culture worn out buzz phrase of Loser as I was recnetly telling my good firned and fellow Aspie named Megan via Skype the other day (she lives in the greater Toronto area) as some douche bag fuckwad was calling HER a Loser because she has Asperger's Syndrome like me, and we were both argreeing what a fucked up situation and person that was. Sorry but I just don't really believe in "winners" and "losers" form many persepctives, but thank you, Gratzie, Gracias and Merci becoupe for for respecting my beliefs. Your a sweet heart. And yeah men & women differ, naturally.

Thankfully every man is different, such as the femmes, and we're not all the same (thank God). Stay cool, beautiful.

jesus christ, are you really 27!?

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

I had all those paragraphs to explain my point and seems like most of you have been lost. I will sum it up.

It really says something if a chick has been with 10+ guys, because if that is the case then chances are when she settles down with you she will always know you are not as good as the other guys. In order for her to settle down with you, you probably have the outside factors like a good future and a good salary. You are the settle down with guy and not the guy who makes her world go round (your money does though), and when that is the case then why bother with a loose chick.

And hypocritical? LOL, my friend studied his butt off to be an engineer, he finished school early. I don't even think he had time for PORN xD.

I think your thinking is a bit off track. Money doesn't make a woman settle down. Her being ready to commit and finding someone worth committing to, makes her want to settle down. That has nothing to do with your bank account, and has everything to do with her growth and maturity, and her just being READY to be with someone. It takes time for women to get their careers going, just like it does with men, and during that time, its our time to be in relationships, and be in love, and make mistakes and find the person who we can spend the rest of our lives with. We don't go off marrying the first or second guy we date, we wait until WE are ready to get married. Women just want to soul search in their 20's and live their life learning and growing up. That involves having relationships with people that will eventually fail. Very few people find their soulmate right away, and it takes time to sift through the assholes, and the guys who just aren't right for us. If a woman wants to commit to you, its because she see's you as a worthy partner to be with. Thats a good thing, and you can thank her ex's for showing her what she DIDN'T want to commit to.

Good guys are hard to find, and assholes are a plenty...so when a woman is young, and not mature, she's going to end up with a few assholes. A young woman, in highschool, college...doesn't have the maturity or the experience to be able to say "I want better than that"...that only comes with having learned from experience. And alot of the time, relationships don't work out, not because of how shitty the guy is, but because of outside circumstances like distance, or attending university, or one partner just not being ready to commit while the other is etc. To show you what I mean, I'll give you a quick rundown on my dating past. I've dated 5 guys seriously. The first guy I was with for two years while in my teens, he was a great guy and my highschool sweetheart. The relationship ended when he was killed in a car accident. My second relationship was after highschool and it ended because he chose to attend university 6 hours away. My third relationship was long distance and we ended it after only 5 months because it was too difficult. My fourth relationship was 2yrs long, and he was an asshole. The one true douche that I've been with, and it ended when I finally woke up and realized that I needed to get out. My last relationship was three years, someone I committed to, married and we're separated now because we went through some really tough stuff that we couldn't work out right now. So if you look at my dating history, I don't have a string of meaningless relationships, I didn't have poor selection aside from the one (which was necessary in helping me grow, and realize what I need in my life) and my relationships ended because of circumstances beyond our control (death, distance, moving away). So I mean, if your "friend" is being approached by women who have had more than 5 partners, but they were legit, healthy relationships that ended for more than just him "jamming her and leaving her"...how can he negatively judge that? I can understand not wanting to be with sluts with poor self esteem...and who make bad dating choices...but for someone who's grown, and lived and learned and who is ready to commit...how can he judge her past when it could positively affect his future?

People are a product of their experiences and history. Experience shapes you into the adult that you are. And being in relationships and loving another human being are one of those experiences. Its not a bad thing, its a good thing. If he's met an awsome girl, who he connects with...her history with other guys, as long as its legit, shouldn't be a strike against her.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

And I think...I mean no offense, but you said it yourself, you chose to focus on your career (which is great btw) and don't have much experience with dating, women and sex. Is it possible, since you don't have that experience, that maybe your outlook might be flawed? How can you know what you want, or know how to date/choose a partner if you've never really done it? Goes along with my "growth" comment...people need to experience things and grow, so they can properly and maturely choose a marriage partner.

 

[GregCentauro]

she will always know you are not as good as the other guys

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

The second girl I got with, her EX was a gang banger, I gave her a chance anyways. Wanna guess what happened to me?

 

[Icewater Jones]

The right woman can and will change your ideals and preferences.

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

And I think...I mean no offense, but you said it yourself, you chose to focus on your career (which is great btw) and don't have much experience with dating, women and sex. Is it possible, since you don't have that experience, that maybe your outlook might be flawed? How can you know what you want, or know how to date/choose a partner if you've never really done it? Goes along with my "growth" comment...people need to experience things and grow, so they can properly and maturely choose a marriage partner.

I am in a relationship, I am trying to talk about my friend's situation and don't pull that BS card about how women make mistakes. Because one of those mistakes could be having STDs and don't cover shit up.

The good guy is just a distraction when he is a nerd that studies, lets come back to him when he earns the cash. Now when the good guy grows some balls and goes for women of higher quality and not wasted goods, then the shit hits the fans.

 

[meesterperfect]

If you read one post this year, make it this one:

revamp, have you ever heard the expression practice makes perfect?

there are positive sides of a girl who has experience.
and might i add that 10 guys is not a lot unless the girl is say under 20 years old.

my point is that these young girls with little experience have not "sowed their oats " yet.
they have a very high probabilty to dump you after a few months to move on and experience more dudes which is a natural thing these days.
a girl with experience just may be ready to settle down with one guy..........or she just might be a slut, thats for you to decide.

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

The right woman can and will change your ideals and preferences.

I love how everyone assumes that I will have another girlfriend, believe me, the one I have right now is the one I plan sticking with:

1. She is Hispanic (very important, I love Latinas)
2. She is cool and doesn't have any racist family members
3. Her parents are super awesome
4. My parents love her
5. Her parents love me
6. She is coming back Saturday from FL
7. She showed me her HS pics, she reminded me of myself, BIG glasses and she often tells stories about how guys ignored her

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

If you read one post this year, make it this one:

revamp, have you ever heard the expression practice makes perfect?

there are positive sides of a girl who has experience.
and might i add that 10 guys is not a lot unless the girl is say under 20 years old.

my point is that these young girls with little experience have not "sowed their oats " yet.
they have a very high probabilty to dump you after a few months to move on and experience more dudes which is a natural thing these days.
a girl with experience just may be ready to settle down with one guy..........or she just might be a slut, thats for you to decide.

Ya but why risk it? Why not give women from other countries and other cultures a chance?

 

[meesterperfect]

The second girl I got with, her EX was a gang banger, I gave her a chance anyways. Wanna guess what happened to me?

a kick to the face with a steel toe kodiak workboot and a trip to the emergency room , bloodied and bashed?

gangbanger? probably some wigger punk.

 

[meesterperfect]

Ya but why risk it? Why not give women from other countries and other cultures a Chance?

risk what?
getting laid?

dude you dont have to think of marrying every girl you bang.

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

a kick to the face with a steel toes kodiak workboot and a trip to the emergency room , bloodied and bashed?

gangbanger? probably some wigger punk.

I got jumped and he was not a wigger, he was Hispanic dude.....

Also as for marriage part, well this thread is kinda about marriage.

 

[meesterperfect]

I got jumped and he was not a wigger, he was Hispanic dude.....

Also as for marriage part, well this thread is kinda about marriage.

ok, then read my original post again, i believe thats all you need to know and consider in this situation.

p.s. have you ever thought of learning spanish and getting a non americanized latina chica?

no offense because i dont know the girl but their is a huge difference between real south american girls who never lived in the states and mexican or puerto rican girls who grew up there.

night and day.

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

ok, then read my original post again, i believe thats all you need to know and consider in this situation.

p.s. have you ever thought of learning spanish and getting a non americanized latina chica?

no offense because i dont know the girl but their is a huge difference between real south american girls who never lived in the states and mexican or puerto rican girls who grew up there.

night and day.

Actually I have but I been told they are real traditional and their families aren't big on outsiders being allowed in. I been around the non Americanized one, even had the privilege to get turned down by one =D

 

[luvcat]

Young women don't want men who are virgins or inexperienced. How ironic that when they get older and have been around the block, some men don't want them because they're too experienced.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

How long have you been dating your gf?