Do You Own a Gun?

[Will E Worm]

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[Elwood70]

An actual old piece of shit rifle might be worth a lot of money, just that it's that old it would be worth some money.

You didn't look at the pics, did you?

 

[xfire]

You didn't look at the pics, did you?

You mean Oswald, yeah, I meant if he was just just bullshitting and had an actual old piece of shit rifle, but yeah, he probably was, never mind, look, a squirrel.

 

[georges]

All of them are in the USA locked in my uncle's safe. I happened to fire and shoot with a lot of guns back then everytime I was visiting my family in the USA and I had back then a NRA license paid by my uncle. Also fired guns in Switzerland were some of my distant cousins live. No guns in France, laws are too dumb and too restricive.

 

[sean miguel]

I don't own a gun. My wife carries a .38. She's southern and grew up with firearms.

They scare me.

 

[xfire]

All of them are in the USA locked in my uncle's safe. I happened to fire and shoot with a lot of guns back then everytime I was visiting my family in the USA and I had back then a NRA license paid by my uncle. Also fired guns in Switzerland were some of my distant cousins live. No guns in France, laws are too dumb and too restricive.

Tell me more about your NRA license.

 

[Johan]

All of them are in the USA locked in my uncle's safe. I happened to fire and shoot with a lot of guns back then everytime I was visiting my family in the USA and I had back then a NRA license paid by my uncle. Also fired guns in Switzerland were some of my distant cousins live. No guns in France, laws are too dumb and too restricive.

Category C: Manual operation long guns with a capacity of 11 rounds or less, semi-automatic long guns with a capacity of 3 rounds or less.
Category B: Handguns with a capacity of 20 rounds or less, manual operation long guns with a capacity between 11 and 31 rounds, semi-automatic long guns with a capacity between 3 and 31 rounds. Also includes any firearm chambered for the following calibers: 7.62×39mm; 5.56×45mm NATO; 5.45×39mm; .50 BMG; 14.5×114mm.

Category C requires the owner to be older than 18, have a hunting licence or be affiliated with a shooting range, and have a medical certificate.
Category B requires the owner to be older than 18, be affiliated with a shooting range, have attended at least 3 shooting sessions with an instructor, and have a medical certificate. The shooter then receives a 5 year authorization to purchase and own of Category B firearms (and therefore Category C firearms since they are affiliated with a shooting range).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_France


Are you saying you fail to get a licence ? Or maybe you did not even applied because you knew you would fail...

 

[georges]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_France


Are you saying you fail to get a licence ? Or maybe you did not even applied because you knew you would fail...

No, so quit talking bullcrap and being way out of your mind as usual. Have you ever fired, disassembled and cleaned a gun? I guess not. On the contrary, I would have succeed the exam.
I didn't apply for these reasons:
-the license is temporary not permanent. You forgot to mention that you must at least go to the range 1 to 2 times per months or your guns are confiscated
-cost of ammo and firearms which are excessive if you want something high end
-good gunsmiths are a rarity in France except 6 that I know in the parisian area
-the ability to have shotguns in 12ga with more than 8 rounds of capacity was banned by that asshole of Jacques Chirac and same happened to the self defense authorization which disappeared in 1995
-concealed carry weapon doesn't exist in France https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F33658 and proving your case in case of selfdefense is very very complicated http://www.sdf75.fr/page104-legitime-defense.html

A guy who shot a robber risks jail http://www.midilibre.fr/2017/10/06/drame-de-servian-le-cambrioleur-pas-encore-identifie,1571252.php Do you call that justice?

The problem is that in the last events such as the 13th November 2015, the terrorists had full illegal auto weapons and also during the Charlie Hebdo massacre, again the terrorists had full auto illegal weapons. The problem is mostly what happens in shitty towns like Mantes La Jolie, Poissy, St Denis, Livry Gargan, Sevran Beaudottes and Grigny where drugs and illegal full autos ak 47s sell for low price.

 

[Johan]

And, thanks to that legislation, France's firearm death per capita is way lower thant it is in the US
That must be so irritating to be proven wrong by all these damn facts all the time...

 

[Jack Davenport]

And, thanks to that legislation, France's firearm death per capita is way lower thant it is in the US
That must be so irritating to be proven wrong by all these damn facts all the time...

Only when illegally obtained firearms are factored into the equation. Much like the “ mass shooting” statistic which is set at 4 or more. On a good night on the South Side of Chicago there are 3 mass shootings all with illegally obtained weapons.

 

[meesterperfect]

An actual old piece of shit rifle might be worth a lot of money, just that it's that old it would be worth some money.



Whoa there, Wyatt Earp, a .22 that packs that much kick might have been a 12 gauge shotgun.

Yep.
I like old guns.
Many are like works of art I think. Museum pieces.
I dont have any but they interest me.

I play Battlefiel 1 on xbox, a WWI game.
So many different firearms were used in the Great War.
I've looked up the actual weapons on wikipedia ect, pretty cool.

 

[georges]

And, thanks to that legislation, France's firearm death per capita is way lower thant it is in the US
That must be so irritating to be proven wrong by all these damn facts all the time...

Your so called damn facts are hard to be the truth and you know it. Count how many shootings we had under Hollande when he was president. It could have been prevented if someone such as guard had a concealed carry weapon and would have shot the attackers in the head. The problem in France , when somone hurts or kills an agressor or a robber, he goes to jail because the french laws estimate that disproportionate use of force against an agressor could be considered as homicide. What does this mean? That in France, you have only the right to be a victim and not defend yourself accordingly to the threat. In the US in states such as Texas, you can kill anyone trespassing and violating your property and I applaud that. One dirtbag less on the streets, that is good for me. Even in Switzerland there have never been shootings because they have citizens-soldiers who have also a concealed carry weapon permit. The antigun mentality in France is the result of socialist media and their instrumentation of victimizing the usual scumbags who commit assaults, robberies, rapes and murders (blame it on Mrs Taubira whose husband and son were both convicted felons and murderers).

 

[xfire]

Yep.
I like old guns.
Many are like works of art I think. Museum pieces.
I dont have any but they interest me.

I play Battlefiel 1 on xbox, a WWI game.
So many different firearms were used in the Great War.
I've looked up the actual weapons on wikipedia ect, pretty cool.

The '03 Springfield is one of my favorites, I like going to gun shops and gun shows.

 

[UnderBro]

No, I don't own a gun. If I did, the police would shoot me on the spot.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

The '03 Springfield is one of my favorites, I like going to gun shops and gun shows.

My M1A is my favorite.

 

[xfire]

My M1A is my favorite.

Beautiful firearm, I'm not a fan of composite stocks.

 

[meesterperfect]

The '03 Springfield is one of my favorites, I like going to gun shops and gun shows.

Yeah that's a beaut.
My best friend growing up was a big gun collector, he had a beautiful M1 Garand which was my favorite one to shoot out there in the Pine Barrens.
It had such a kick I couldnt hit crap but it was fun.
You see in the movies guys firing 6 shots like its nothing but even 2 in a row is tough.

 

[xfire]

The aught six cartridge is a beast, 7.62x63mm, it's too bad they don't still made factory new Garands, that's all the gun anyone could ever need.

 

[georges]

My M1A is my favorite.

We rarely agree on something but this one is indeed a hell of a good rifle. I used to the shoot the Super Match version fitted with a mac millan fiberglass stock, douglas stainless steel barrel, harris bipod and a leupold mark 4 scope way back then, sub MOA accuracy guaranteed. Smith Enterprises also makes a specific M1A but close to the DMR standards http://www.smithenterprise.com/products02.html

 

[Johan]

Your so called damn facts are hard to be the truth and you know it. Count how many shootings we had under Hollande when he was president. It could have been prevented if someone such as guard had a concealed carry weapon and would have shot the attackers in the head.

Tell me more about all those shootings that have been prevented (or even stopped) thanks to a civilian with a gun.
Tell me more about all the people saved thanks to a law-abiding citizen with a gun and how their number is way larger than the number of people who lost their lives because oa wacko with a legal gun or by some random gun accident.

The problem in France , when somone hurts or kills an agressor or a robber, he goes to jail because the french laws estimate that disproportionate use of force against an agressor could be considered as homicide. What does this mean? That in France, you have only the right to be a victim and not defend yourself accordingly to the threat.

You have the right to defend yourself. You don't have the right ot shoot a rober in the back while he's fleeing. The guy is not threat to you anymore, you're not defending yourself, you're just killing a robber

Even in Switzerland there have never been shootings because they have citizens-soldiers who have also a concealed carry weapon permit.

Ah, finally, Switzeland.
I love when gun enthusiasts bring the Switzerland argument on the table because they're actually totally clueless about the Swiss gun-legislation :
1) At 19 (or 20), every male swiss citizen must undergo basic military training at the Rekrutenschule (recruit school) after which Swiss men remain part of the militia until age 30 (34 for officers).
2) During that time they have to keep their gun at home or they can store it in the city's Zeughaus (armoury).
3) The gun is provided by the government and it's a very specific gun : 5.56x45mm SIG SG 550 rifle for enlisted personnel (and/or the 9mm SIG P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, military police, medical and postal personnel).
4) The ammos are provided by the government as sealed package. It is illegal to use these ammos without government authorisation.
5) At the end of their time of service, men can keep the gun but this requires a specific licence.
6) The Swiss governement sponsors shooting range. The ammos that are bought at the shooting range have to be used there only.
7) Buying any other gun or ammos requires a licence.
8) Carrying a gun requires a licence.

Such tough gun laws is probably why Switzerland has very few shootings. But still, shit happens, very rarely but it happens.
Married father-of-three opens fire in mass shooting in tiny Swiss town 'killing four before turning the gun on himself' : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-north-Switzerland-town.html#ixzz4yFGD68pr

The truth is the tougher gun laws are, the lower homicide rates are. Japan has a extremely tough gun lesgislation and a very low homicide rate.

The antigun mentality in France is the result of socialist media and their instrumentation of victimizing the usual scumbags who commit assaults, robberies, rapes and murders (blame it on Mrs Taubira whose husband and son were both convicted felons and murderers).

Actually the french gun laws were mostly set by a presidential decree signed in 1973 by the President Valery Giscard-d'Estaing, who was a rightwinger, not a leftist