Do you bitcoin?

Was it a Ponzi scheme?

I don't think it was from the creator of the currency, but a currency not backed up by a government with a vested interest in keeping it sound, lending itself to manipulation by many parties.

If anyone here understands virtual coin 'mining' please explain it. I've read 3 different eCoin sites and can't get my head around it.
 
It's a market for hiding money transactions plain and simple. It's not safe since these dealers are getting hacked all of the time. I wouldn't call it an investment since the price sank 7% this week, 20% for the month, 28% in 3 months, and 59% in 10 months. What is the market for these? What transactions need to be hidden. Cars and boats need to be registered. Air travel needs ID. Are hookers taking bitcoins? Gas stations? Where do you spend these fucking things? And don't be surprised if you're charged a transaction fee if you can someone that takes them.
 
I would also be weary of anything that claims to be "untraceable", especially on the Internet. For most mundane things it probably is close enough, but if somebody ever pissed off enough people or the wrong people or had a good chunk of the resources of a large government to go after them they probably would do well not to count on it's untraceableness saving their ass.
 
I don't think it was from the creator of the currency, but a currency not backed up by a government with a vested interest in keeping it sound, lending itself to manipulation by many parties.

If anyone here understands virtual coin 'mining' please explain it. I've read 3 different eCoin sites and can't get my head around it.

As best I can understand "virtual currency mining", it's sort of like what high frequency stock traders do: exploiting small pricing inefficiencies in the market and capturing the spread. Way back when, we called it arbitrage. Apparently with bitcoins, some percentage of each transaction falls through the cracks. I read a piece where some guy had a bank of cheap Android phones set up to run around the clock just to "catch" a penny's worth of bitcoin here and there. I lost interest in delving deeper, but I guess if a person could make enough to justify that effort and the operational expense (and in most circumstances, it seems to be legal), I guess that's an easy way to make some (wait for it)... coin.

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Michell Espinoza is asking a judge to throw out criminal charges against him He argues that the virtual currency is not actual money under Florida law The case, believed to be the first of its kind, is being closely watched...

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Judge Rules Bitcoin Isn't Money Because It "Can't be Hidden Under A Mattress"

In a landmark decision, a Florida judge dismissed charges of money laundering against a Bitcoin seller on Monday following expert testimony showing state law did not apply to the cryptocurrency. Michell Espinoza was charged with three felony charges related to money laundering in 2014, but what appears to have helped to clear him of any and all wrongdoing was testimony given just a few weeks ago by an economics professor....
 
Anything that soars to the moon over a relatively short period of time (for no good reason), and then plummets into the dirt by 85%+ within a few months, isn't for me. People try to justify it as a good investment by averaging bitcoin's returns over a number of years. That doesn't really work. Averages ignore the extreme swings. Once you look at something called draw downs (peak to trough price movements or volatility), people should be able to see what a speculative ****** these crypto play money schemes are. If you have $1000 hat you were going to take to Vegas, sure... go for it. But if you're thinking of putting real money, or some major percentage of your portfolio into them, DON'T.

I'd say the same thing about the vaping and weed stocks craze that's currently sweeping the investment landscape. Sure, some will make a lot of money. But a good many more will wind up losing what they make and then some. Same thing happened with dotcom stocks in the 90s... and tulips several hundred years ago. People are so anxious to find the latest get rich quick scheme, instead of putting their money into slow & steady investments that have a real track record. Well, I guess as long as there are suckers born every day, shysters will always have pockets to pick.
 
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