**** Crimes

It's because in Chicago (and every other city in America) there are far more poor black people than white people, so when a black person attacks a white person, it's usually motivated by economics. On the other hand, if a white person attacks a black guy, it's probably not because he's trying to rob him but because of racism.

He doesn't live in Chicago now and he's correct the media is bias.
 
**** Crime legislation is the biggest waste of time and money! Can't these worthless politicians do anything better with their time in Washington these days?

Sadly, the answer is a resounding NO!!!
 
**** Crime legislation is the biggest waste of time and money! Can't these worthless politicians do anything better with their time in Washington these days?

Sadly, the answer is a resounding NO!!!

I suppose they could be spending time on things that produce "real" victims like say, the college football championship huh?

Or some other major crime like a married man lying about getting his dick sucked or something....:spin::turnturn::spin::turnturn: :updown::updown:
 
It's because in Chicago (and every other city in America) there are far more poor black people than white people, so when a black person attacks a white person, it's usually motivated by economics. On the other hand, if a white person attacks a black guy, it's probably not because he's trying to rob him but because of racism.

I hope you were kidding with that statement. How is it usually racism when a white guy attacks a black guy, but not the other way around?

I know just as many racist black people as I do racist white people.

Such crimes are pretty rare, which is also why you don't hear about them compared to black on white crime.

Move to Cleveland and then tell me that black on white crimes are pretty rare, because they most certainly are not.
 
I hope you were kidding with that statement. How is it usually racism when a white guy attacks a black guy, but not the other way around?

I know just as many racist black people as I do racist white people.

Does it really matter? The only important thing is that we unfortunately share our world with idiotic bigots and in our country when they commit crimes based on their bigotry they are punished more severely.
 
Libertarians don't believe in **** crimes. We also don't believe in excusing any crime, making the punishment lesser.

E.g., if you *****, then did something irresponsible, you don't get to use your ******* as an excuse for a lesser sentence, you "consented" to ********** yourself and it makes no difference.

**** crimes are a political tool. The reality is that a lot of crimes do come down to ****, and it makes no difference in the ********* of others.
 
It's because in Chicago (and every other city in America) there are far more poor black people than white people, so when a black person attacks a white person, it's usually motivated by economics. On the other hand, if a white person attacks a black guy, it's probably not because he's trying to rob him but because of racism.

Such crimes are pretty rare, which is also why you don't hear about them compared to black on white crime. Most of the crime is in fact done by blacks against other blacks, but you don't hear about that on the news as much either, unless it's a particularly sensational story, because the media is geared towards advertising and once again they target white people because they have more money and the best way to make money off of people is to scare them- don't go in the city where the scary and dangerous people are, move out to the suburbs where the new expensive houses and nice shopping malls are!

it's all about social control and property values.

Let's see...first you point out that Chicago and every American city has far more Black poor people who will ****** you 'cause they're poor and you're not, than White people.
Then...you mock the media for scaring people into leaving the city for the suburbs to "avoid" the crime. Duh?
Actual poverty statistics, not what Calpoon makes up to liven up a confused post...

Although non-Hispanic whites had a lower poverty rate than other

racial groups, they accounted for 44 percent of the people in

poverty.

15,796,000 Whities

People who reported black as their only race, for example, had a

poverty rate of 24.4 percent in 2003.

8,750,000 Blackies

The number of people below the official poverty thresholds

numbered 35.9 million .
So, actually, there are twice as many poor Whites living below the Poverty Line than Blacks...who Calpoon thinks live mostly in the cities.
Not!
 
**** crimes are a political tool. The reality is that a lot of crimes do come down to ****, and it makes no difference in the ********* of others.

Well some people actually believe when someone goes out of their way to victimize a person solely based on the persons race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. that crime is worse. You may disagree with that point of view but it is a legitimate belief.

I'll say it again, the average crime has nothing to do with **** and the ones that do are crimes that are committed with premeditation or malice aforethought (which is another example of divining a mindset).

Do you believe criminals who **** cops deserve harsher sentences than those who **** "regular" people?
 
Yes, you are correct Philbert that there are more poor whites than poor blacks in this country as a whole, but it doesn't make a distinction between rural and urban areas and it also doesn't make a fair per-capita comparison between the two groups.

Rural areas have less crime than cities because they contain less people in close proximity and they generally have a population that is close in economic level, regardless of racial porportion.

The opposite equation applies to cities.

anyway, but OT Facetious makes a very good point by bringing up gang ********, which is usually not racially motivated, but is based on the exact same **** group mentality and is not considered under **** Crime legislation.
 
****-crimes are different because the motivation indicates a tendency toward hatred of a particular type of human being and the continued desire to practice evil against such people, rather than a covet of their property (i.e., theft or burglary), or a resentment of their action (i.e., road-rage. Labeling these crimes as such is not "thought" patrol, you can go on thinking what you'd like; it is about the *********** of the victim and robbing them of the right to be who they are.
 
No. Someone should be punished the same whether they hurt a gay person or a straight person, woman or man, black, yellow or white... the victim shouldn't matter, only the crime.

I do hope there is a special place in hell for people that hurt ******** though :mad:
 
every crime is a **** crime dont you usually commit a crime your hateful or angry ?

ok then it is a **** crime

<Hypothetical scenario> Scouser Tom: Fuck man I boosted a real nice plasma tv the other day
Sinbad the pirate: Nice wan man, Who you boosted it off?
Scouser Tom: How da fuck should I know man? Just broke in not much **** worth jacking but then I saw this mint plasma and I was like proper bo!


Yes every crime is a **** crime!
 
No. Someone should be punished the same whether they hurt a gay person or a straight person, woman or man, black, yellow or white... the victim shouldn't matter, only the crime.

I do hope there is a special place in hell for people that hurt ******** though :mad:

There is, friend...it's called "Gen Pop".
 
**** crimes have always existed: look at genocides, ******* between gangs or ****** of people of another race. In these cases, death penalty should be applied.
 
**** crimes have always existed: look at genocides, ******* between gangs or ****** of people of another race. In these cases, death penalty should be applied.

Everone with the proverbial half a brain knows there are crimes and then, there are crimes. Speeding isn't a felony or a possible **** crime; but a Liberal DA could start charging any Whites found burgling a Mexican, Asian, Mid Eastern, or Black person's house with a **** crime and jacking up time sentenced, good looking rep for a suck-up get-ahead DA.
A Caucasian DA would get a raft of **** charging an ethnic perp with a **** crime even if they bragged how much they loved fucking up White folks and stealing their **** on CNN and Fox...
**** crimes may have a specific use in some small specific situation, but I wouldn't give a loaded *** to a 7 year old to play with, and I don't want to see agenda driven legal assholes with the power to add extra time to a crime based on arbitrary political theory.
And I ain't talking about felony tax evasion, for the small of intellect out there...I an talking about "verbs" as in "action" crimes...like robbery or ****** or assault or ****...crimes need to be charged and time given appropriate to the crime.
 
Everone with the proverbial half a brain knows there are crimes and then, there are crimes. Speeding isn't a felony or a possible **** crime; but a Liberal DA could start charging any Whites found burgling a Mexican, Asian, Mid Eastern, or Black person's house with a **** crime and jacking up time sentenced, good looking rep for a suck-up get-ahead DA.
A Caucasian DA would get a raft of **** charging an ethnic perp with a **** crime even if they bragged how much they loved fucking up White folks and stealing their **** on CNN and Fox...
**** crimes may have a specific use in some small specific situation, but I wouldn't give a loaded *** to a 7 year old to play with, and I don't want to see agenda driven legal assholes with the power to add extra time to a crime based on arbitrary political theory.
And I ain't talking about felony tax evasion, for the small of intellect out there...I an talking about "verbs" as in "action" crimes...like robbery or ****** or assault or ****...crimes need to be charged and time given appropriate to the crime.

Common sense needs to assume its rightful position in this type of thing at some point. The Matthew Shepherd incident was an obvious and despicable **** crime. If a white guy robs a black (or Hispanic or Jewish or Muslim or....whoever), extenuating circumstances should be considered since the main object of the crime was simply to rob someone, not necessarily because of their ethnicity or religion or sexual preference or whatever. However, if said robber creates a pattern where he only robs people of a certain persuasion, it could definitely be construed as a **** crime.

It could work the other way as well if it were a upper-middle class WASP who was being targeted. It doesn't refer only to minorities. **** is ****....period.
 
Common sense needs to assume its rightful position in this type of thing at some point. The Matthew Shepherd incident was an obvious and despicable **** crime. If a white guy robs a black (or Hispanic or Jewish or Muslim or....whoever), extenuating circumstances should be considered since the main object of the crime was simply to rob someone, not necessarily because of their ethnicity or religion or sexual preference or whatever. However, if said robber creates a pattern where he only robs people of a certain persuasion, it could definitely be construed as a **** crime.

It could work the other way as well if it were a upper-middle class WASP who was being targeted. It doesn't refer only to minorities. **** is ****....period.

And there are already mandated penalties for all those crimes, no real need to add even more time for some perception of a political theory.
A smart criminal could target a mostly Black neighborhood for reasons unrelated to "****" and still get charged on appearances alone with more than the lawful penalty mandated for burglary.
I see no useful purpose to give a loaded weapon to an aggressive DA to add time for his own reasons, and not for some perceived "****"...would all bikers be charged extra and no Blacks or ordinary Whites and Messicans? We all "know" Bikers **** everyone else not a biker...**** Crime!
Did you use ethnic slurs to frighten the victim and keep him too scared to fight back? **** Crime!
Did you ****** someone who turned out to be someone you hated (gay) as well as just someone to beat the **** out of (random guy)? **** Crime!
Matthew Shepherd's killers got nailed for their actions, **** or not they got nailed big time for 1st Degree ******...didn't they?
I mean a lot of armed perps **** Blacks, or Whites, or Mexicans, or Gays, or Jews, or Catholics...hell, they **** a lot of people and dislike everyone else...no **** crime attachment is needed after they get the maximum penalty for the crime...and it wouldn't be actually correct under the basic idea of a crime committed only for a **** reason...I see no difference.
I **** ALL discrimination under the law.
 
No. Someone should be punished the same whether they hurt a gay person or a straight person, woman or man, black, yellow or white... the victim shouldn't matter, only the crime.

I do hope there is a special place in hell for people that hurt ******** though :mad:

to me this post is all that really needs to be said.
how can anyone not agree with that post?

Everone with the proverbial half a brain knows there are crimes and then, there are crimes. Speeding isn't a felony or a possible **** crime; but a Liberal DA could start charging any Whites found burgling a Mexican, Asian, Mid Eastern, or Black person's house with a **** crime and jacking up time sentenced, good looking rep for a suck-up get-ahead DA.
A Caucasian DA would get a raft of **** charging an ethnic perp with a **** crime even if they bragged how much they loved fucking up White folks and stealing their **** on CNN and Fox...
**** crimes may have a specific use in some small specific situation, but I wouldn't give a loaded *** to a 7 year old to play with, and I don't want to see agenda driven legal assholes with the power to add extra time to a crime based on arbitrary political theory.
And I ain't talking about felony tax evasion, for the small of intellect out there...I an talking about "verbs" as in "action" crimes...like robbery or ****** or assault or ****...crimes need to be charged and time given appropriate to the crime.

to me thats about the reality of it.
sad but true.
if the **** crime law must be used(which it doesn't) then it must be equally applied, justice for all you know.
unfortunately political correctness doesn't allow this in the US.
 
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