Chinese stealth fighter flies!

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
If Chinese are smart they would take advantage of any conflict and overthrow their communist government. :)
There are many protests we don't hear about, so I'm told.
Wow, those chinese bootleggers are really impressive! Bootlegging stealth technology now! :D
They don't know how to innovate.
chinese culture venerates the "wisdom" of the respected elders.
Ergo they don't move very fast and suffer poor innovation.
Only way round that? Bootleg.
 
They don't know how to innovate.
chinese culture venerates the "wisdom" of the respected elders.
Ergo they don't move very fast and suffer poor innovation.
Only way round that? Bootleg.

They invented spaghetti. And finger traps.

I don't know why everybody's making a fuss about this. According to Jesse Ventura, we have technology (HAARP) that can create earthquakes and tsunamis all across the globe. Jet fighters, schmet fighters, American can move tectonic plates!!

Jesse Ventura wouldn't lie, you know.
 
Wow, those chinese bootleggers are really impressive! Bootlegging stealth technology now! :D

Every advanced military in the world has copy somebody else at some point in time when somebody else had an advantage, even the U.S. It would be stupid not to. As long as an entity isn't at war or won't be soon why not let somebody else do all the expensive development when you can probably easily steal it from them later and save massive amounts of time and cost?
 
I heard on the tube the other day they hack into American Intelligence computers 1,000 times a day, and this is why this technology was recieved by them.
 
I heard on the tube the other day they hack into American Intelligence computers 1,000 times a day, and this is why this technology was recieved by them.

It makes sense, but at the same time, think of how many TV shows have went into detail about our top fighters, tanks and upcoming weapon systems. Obviously you can't backwards engineer a fighter jet from that alone, but when the Military Channel is ratling off exact angles, weights and even what type of paint is used (and why) it certainly can inspire.

http://www.amazon.com/F-22-Raptor-48-scale-model/dp/B0006N1QKY
 
It makes sense, but at the same time, think of how many TV shows have went into detail about our top fighters, tanks and upcoming weapon systems. Obviously you can't backwards engineer a fighter jet from that alone, but when the Military Channel is ratling off exact angles, weights and even what type of paint is used (and why) it certainly can inspire.

http://www.amazon.com/F-22-Raptor-48-scale-model/dp/B0006N1QKY

Most definitely. I've been watching the Military channel quite a bit lately and I suppose there is somewhat sensitive information.

If they - a third-world country - are hacking our comps 1,000 times a day I'm sure we are equally hacking their stuff as well. Our military is so superior it's not even funny with all the trillions we spend on defense. In the future, Area 51 will be in Outer space our technology is so sophisticated. Our entire airforce is going to have stealth technology, if it doesn't already.
 
If the Chinese are hacking our government computers 1000 times a day and getting alot of sesitive info I hope that are government knows this and letting them get 'flawed' info that looks correct but doesn't exactly work right when the Chinese try and develop it.

Reminds me of when Europe and Russia were developing supersonic airliners, Europe knew the Russians were stealing their info and starting to let them get flawed info about the tire design and compounds they were using in the tire which set the Russians back a little bit.
 
Most definitely. I've been watching the Military channel quite a bit lately and I suppose there is somewhat sensitive information.

If they - a third-world country - are hacking our comps 1,000 times a day I'm sure we are equally hacking their stuff as well. Our military is so superior it's not even funny with all the trillions we spend on defense. In the future, Area 51 will be in Outer space our technology is so sophisticated. Our entire airforce is going to have stealth technology, if it doesn't already.

I hate to be a bummer, but the idea of future military superiority is dwindling. When we're ready to sell the Saudis scores of our top fighters, what will we be willing to sell China as our dependence on their consumption of Treasury Bonds grows?

Not to mention that poor nations like N. Korea are on their way to nuclear ICBMs and technologically rich allied nations like South Korea and Japan are developmentally stagnant in terms to defense technology thanks to our military presence.

I think it's careless to call China the third world these days. We should remember that Russia lost a war to the Japanese in 1905. Ten years later they were the USSR. 25 years after that they were an atomically armed super power that led to a decades-long Cold War. It doesn't take centuries for a super power to emerge. We're the best example of that.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
They invented spaghetti. And finger traps.

I don't know why everybody's making a fuss about this. According to Jesse Ventura, we have technology (HAARP) that can create earthquakes and tsunamis all across the globe. Jet fighters, schmet fighters, American can move tectonic plates!!

Jesse Ventura wouldn't lie, you know.
They didn't invent spaghetti did they? I thought it was the Italians?
Every advanced military in the world has copy somebody else at some point in time when somebody else had an advantage, even the U.S. It would be stupid not to. As long as an entity isn't at war or won't be soon why not let somebody else do all the expensive development when you can probably easily steal it from them later and save massive amounts of time and cost?
The americans copied the following military things:
Jets for jet fighters (gift from the British)
Tanks (British invention)
Rifles (Forget who invented them, but they were around before america, ergo, copied.
Commander's cupbolas in tanks (copied from the Russians)
Tanks powered soley by turbine engines (T80 was the first)
The M8 assault rifle is a H&K design.
The vertical lift system for the F35 originally appeared on the Soviet Yak141 project.
The Harrier jump jet operated by the marines was originally called the Kestrel; a joint development between Britain and East Germany. the design later evolved into the marines' harrier.
Chaff (British)
Radar (British)
Designated Marksmans rifles (DM14) (Soviet Union)
Off boresight targetting of WVR missiles (Soviet Union. Before the americans had this tech the MiG29 would've beaten american fighters in dogfights EVERY TIME)
There are more but I feel I've presented more than enough.
I hate to be a bummer, but the idea of future military superiority is dwindling. When we're ready to sell the Saudis scores of our top fighters, what will we be willing to sell China as our dependence on their consumption of Treasury Bonds grows?

Not to mention that poor nations like N. Korea are on their way to nuclear ICBMs and technologically rich allied nations like South Korea and Japan are developmentally stagnant in terms to defense technology thanks to our military presence.

I think it's careless to call China the third world these days. We should remember that Russia lost a war to the Japanese in 1905. Ten years later they were the USSR. 25 years after that they were an atomically armed super power that led to a decades-long Cold War. It doesn't take centuries for a super power to emerge. We're the best example of that.
You don't have much military supremacy at current.
You've sold the Saudis some good stuff alread (F15s)
The chinese are already copying your military technology. One of Lockheed Martins chinese engineers gave some secret info on f22 over to china.
N. Korea can cause global nuclear winter simply by detonating a nuke over their own soil. So I hear.

As far as what bscott says, he's been getting his info from the military channel, so you can't trust it. Lets not forget that when the future weapons program reviewed the marines new amphibious assault vehicle it gave it the full on propoganda treatment while failing to mention that it could only swim to shore WITH THE ARMOUR REMOVED.
If you wanna partake in an asssault on a defended beach without armour, you're mad.
He talks of the amount you spend on defense, he doesn't know that you pay that to manufacturers for shit products. Why do the generals pay so much for shit military products? Because after they "retire" from the military they "go to work" for the same military suppliers who gave you shit products like Stryker and they do no work, but they do get 7 figure salaries...
idiot said:
Our entire airforce is going to have stealth technology, if it doesn't already.
He doesn't realise that the airforce isn't already stealth, so you can safely ignore his military opinion.
 

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_eu/eu_us_stealth_technology_china

Just more proof that the chinese can't invent or innovate.


BRUSSELS – Chinese officials recently unveiled a new, high-tech stealth fighter that could pose a significant threat to American air superiority — and some of its technology, it turns out, may well have come from the U.S. itself.

Balkan military officials and other experts have told The Associated Press that in all probability the Chinese gleaned some of their technological know-how from an American F-117 Nighthawk that was shot down over Serbia in 1999.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
That may be true but still they just bypassed the 30+ years we took to get the technology we have now to build their stealth fighter.

It doesnt matter how techologically advanced we are if China can just come in and still what secrets we got!
Things move much faster in a war and your secrecy will be much better.
But that's not that important because you americans have pilots who have actually experienced combat and the chinese don't; the edge given by the pilot quality is far more important than the planes the pilots fly.
 

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You can't build a house without a foundation. They are utterly clueless as to where to go from there. What happens when their stolen tech burps or farts? They surely won't be able to fix it because they have no clue how to work the equation.
 
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