Pseudo rape and abuse sites are just absolutely fucking useless. Anyone wanting to see fat scumbags humiliate and manhandle women need to take a real hard look at themselves and their life. I love real amateur content. The action is genuine and raw. There's not enough out there.
Best Porn Site Ever? My Vote Goes To Meatholes....
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HeLovesPorn
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Icewater dude, so true with everything you said. Especially about the amateur content. I LOVE Wifey's World stuff and the like. It feels so much less studio produced and so less scumbag-manufactored.
I'm actually having a tough time coming up with a worse site with credible recognition than Meatholes.
1) It does 0 for me sexually.
2) It perpetuates the worst stereotypes of the adult industry.
3) Based on what stars like Ashley Blue have had to say about it, I have no doubt Tusion has driven off countless chicks who associate their first shitty experience with porn as representative of the whole.
1) It does 0 for me sexually.
2) It perpetuates the worst stereotypes of the adult industry.
3) Based on what stars like Ashley Blue have had to say about it, I have no doubt Tusion has driven off countless chicks who associate their first shitty experience with porn as representative of the whole.
HeLovesPorn
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Yup. Just imagine if a nice young lass had her FIRST ever hardcore photo shoot with a big time fuckwas Max Hardcore-type of set up like with Meatholes. Imagine how badly that would turn her off in trying to make it in the adult film industry, just imagine how fucking soul-killing that original, very rough shoot is gonna treat her afterwards. Anyway what all did Ashley Blue have to say about'em now, anyone? Just curious.
Lust
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All the abusive sex debate aside I'm going to have to say www.freeones.com and yes, this is a total "kiss-ass" post! So, what did I win? 
If I ever saw a girl being abused by some random moron, I would stab the shit out of that moron and even cut him his genitals, call the police and then bring back the girl to her home.
I have to agree. Rough sex is one thing, but when the goal is humiliation, that's not my bag.... :2 cents:
...and give her a nice romantic fucking.
SpexyAshleigh
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Well, as I'm not a fan of Rocky movies, or boxing in general I would say no, so your comparison doesn't apply. But to the fans of Rocky movies or Sylvester Stallone, I would probably guess that yes, most WOULD cheer if they saw their fav star/movie character kicking the crap out of someone IRL. Hell, most NORMAL dude fights get circled around with cheering and jeering. Horrible comparison dude.
My reason for asking if the OP would fap if seeing a woman violated IRL is valid. Because while the site may claim that the women are fully aware of the scene's brutality before going on camera, I'm sure alot of it ISN'T staged and some of the women are crying genuine tears and experiencing genuine pain and maybe injury. THAT...is not something anyone with a sound mind should get aroused by. If seeing a human being suffer on camera gets you off, then I don't see why seeing a human being suffer IRL wouldn't get him a little bit hard. I'm sure with ANYTHING that arouses anyone in porn, if you saw those actions IRL, you'd be like "wow cool.". If anal is your thing, if you were walking in the park and saw some dude fucking some chick up the ass over a park bench, why wouldn't that arouse the average anal fan? If watching a girl pee on cam gets you off, why wouldn't you be aroused if you saw someone peeing IRL? Do you get what I mean? My question to the OP is valid and I'm sure anyone here would agree with me.
SpexyAshleigh
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I know I seem too opinionated, and probably to some of you, close minded. I just can't see how anyone can enjoy watching that kind of content. I mean, in actual films, like Hollywood films, if there is a rape scene, or a scene of violence...its all staged. The actors ACT. Jackie Chan doesn't ACTUALLY kick the shit out of a room full of people, they're trained to make it LOOK like he does. And the viewing public knows this.
But when you get into pornography, there isn't much staging. And the viewers of this material hopes to god that there isn't any staging, because they want to see a girls honest reaction to it all. So the abuse, the degrading acts, all of it, actually happens, and while some of the reactions may be fake because some of the girls are so desensitized to it all by now, I'm sure alot of reactions and tears and pain is real, and legit. And that turns the audience on even more. How doesn't that seem messed up and wrong? I mean there's a difference between a rough sex scene (I like my sex pretty rough myself), and actual degredation and assault....rape even. It just scares me that there are men out there that enjoy seeing girls being treated like less than human.
But when you get into pornography, there isn't much staging. And the viewers of this material hopes to god that there isn't any staging, because they want to see a girls honest reaction to it all. So the abuse, the degrading acts, all of it, actually happens, and while some of the reactions may be fake because some of the girls are so desensitized to it all by now, I'm sure alot of reactions and tears and pain is real, and legit. And that turns the audience on even more. How doesn't that seem messed up and wrong? I mean there's a difference between a rough sex scene (I like my sex pretty rough myself), and actual degredation and assault....rape even. It just scares me that there are men out there that enjoy seeing girls being treated like less than human.
Given the logic behind Spexy's comment, which is a legit theory, I believe if you enjoy watching anyone get sexually violated, you need to re-evaluate some shit personally. I think that person would even participate in such an activity if given the right situation. Its sorta like 'To Catch A Predator'. Those dudes web chatting with known 13-16 yr. olds are probably, at least, fapping to mid-teens on the daily. The only thing it takes is an ideal situation to get them out of the house, and turn that fantasy into reality.
Am I supposed to believe that wouldn't be the case with those who love pseudo rape porn??? Please forgive me, but I don't.
HeLovesPorn
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I love both of your recent big rpelies here my dearets Ash, as well as XFire's, too. People who enjoy this shit, I am sorry as I am a fairly open-minded lad. But many are pretty royally fucked up (mental health wise) and maybe need to stay clear cut away from any sexually arousing images from the whole adult film & model world for a while, before they can log in some super-serious major couch time at the local psycho ward, if ya know what I mean.
I do like amatuerallure, exploitedcollegegirls and girlsdoporn because it's good stuff. Real, but not humiliation or trying to make fun of the girl for doing porn. I wish these 3 sites would show the male face more because with these 3 sites the lead male's face is usually never shown on cam. That sort of subconsciously gives off a "see, if you're a guy, porn is safe! We'll protect you!" type vibe. There's really no point in the lead male hiding so much in the scene.
However, just because meatholes is not in biz doesn't mean humiliation, faux rape shit is over. Porntarpunishment is a newish site run by one of the big internet companies (Brazzers?). The scenes are clearly fake and staged but the ideas the Spexy talk about exist even with this site. Since when do we want to get off and fap to porn that is only about punishment and fear?
On a tangent topic--I don't know how I feel about BDSM and S&M. It's hard to bitch and moan about meatholes and then go into "The Dungeon" and see chicks roped up like sides of beef.
I admit that I am not aware of the dynamic of BDSM and S&M. Power and control and giving yourself over to someone,and, yes, role-playing all play a part in this...but still, it's still seems like violence and punishment seem at the core.
However, just because meatholes is not in biz doesn't mean humiliation, faux rape shit is over. Porntarpunishment is a newish site run by one of the big internet companies (Brazzers?). The scenes are clearly fake and staged but the ideas the Spexy talk about exist even with this site. Since when do we want to get off and fap to porn that is only about punishment and fear?
On a tangent topic--I don't know how I feel about BDSM and S&M. It's hard to bitch and moan about meatholes and then go into "The Dungeon" and see chicks roped up like sides of beef.
I admit that I am not aware of the dynamic of BDSM and S&M. Power and control and giving yourself over to someone,and, yes, role-playing all play a part in this...but still, it's still seems like violence and punishment seem at the core.
It's like I go to the movies to watch a good film like Ichi the Killer where folks are getting tortured or I watch a film where something in real life would not go over very well in real life. How if I saw something I might see in a movie happen in real life I'm not going to whip out the popcorn and pull up a "movie seat" and enjoy the show.
People will obviously react differently when they know it is fantasy (and may not know everything behind the scenes) than if they would happen to see something like this Meatholes in real life in public.
The internet can simply be a place to provide us with things we normally would never associate with in real life. Internet can be fun but dangerous at the same time.
Gen Padova
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If you're weak in the mind and feeling vulnerable in the first place then you're surely not going to make it through a rough 'n tough scene like Meatholes.
You have to truly enjoy your work to even work up to this level of intensity. It's not just a physical exercise. It's mental and emotional. If you're not happy or sound in general especially with yourself then you will surely crack. Which is the whole point of Meatholes. It's no secret and it never was. The girls knew exactly what they were getting into. And if you don't, it's your responsibility to ask questions to a shoot before agreeing to do it. It's called being responsible for oneself. You're self-employed not reporting to an employer so no one is going to take care of you and your decision making but yourself. How can you not ask questions of what is expected of you before agreeing to something is beyond me. I asked questions with wanting to know more specifics and I got it.
To me, doing Meatholes was the next step to the challenges of rough pornography. It fulfilled the continuous curiosities I collected throughout the years of porno. And to say the very least, I'm most proud of this one than anything else because Khan Tusion was surprised that he couldn't crack me.
It's so liberating to accomplish that when the character Khan Tusion himself tends to win every time. LOVED IT!
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A few more links on this thread would be welcome.
John_8581
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Garbage In. Garbage Out ...
to your degradation of women.
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I guess this guy has never seen a Hustler magazine.
(See the June 1978 Hustler magazine)
Larry Flynt has been doing this decades before ANYONE. You can thank Mr. Flynt for those court cases on first amendment rights. Had he not won in court - there would be no internet pornography today. He paved the way!
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Hugh Hefner put women in a good light.
The next two people you can put on the influential list are Bob Guccione of Penthouse and Al Goldstein of Screw.
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The best porn-site(s) ever? Wicked Pictures (Steve Orenstein, Brad Armstrong, and Axel Braun and that ownership team) or Vivid Entertainment (Steve Hirsch et al) before they became a "sex-tape" and "parody films" joke.
Adult-com was very good. As were the offshoot websites: Big Sausage Pizza, Euro Bride Tryouts, and Milf Cruiser. As was Mr. Big Dicks Hot Chicks. Even the Italians: Rocco Siffredi, Mario Salieri, and John Stagliano (Evil Angel) and his one time partner Irishman Patrick Collins too (from Elegant Angel.) have to be ranked higher than Max Hardcore and the owners of meatholes or facial abuse.
What Jules Jordan has done at his website is fan-tas-tic.
As for women owned businesses, Jill Kelly, Jenna Jameson, Danni Ashe, Sandee Westgate, Molly Cavalli and Nina Mercedez did amazing work. Catalina Cruz, Kelly Madison, Rachel Aziani, Vicky Vette, Lisa Ann, Chloe Vevrier, Nadine Jansen, Lisa Sparxxx, Bianca Beauchamp, Masuimi Max and Miss Hybrid are keeping it golden with the tremendous work. Christie Hefner (the ex-CEO of Playboy Enterprises) was responsible for the Playboy CyberGirls and the Playboy Plus websites. Bella French developed ManyVids. Gloria Leonard was the first female publisher of High Society magazine.
Look at what Kayden Kross and Stormy Daniels are doing today behind the camera as directors.
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As for mainstream websites, you can put Brazzers in there (before they were owned by Manwin / Mindgeek) - Even Digital Playground, Twistys and Reality Kings too (before they were acquired by Manwin.) then Naughty America and Bang Bros.
Kink.com, Cum-Louder and the Score Group (Scoreland.com) are other landmark websites.
Frenchman Manuel Ferrara is doing commendable work at his named site. Another Frenchman Greg Lansky is doing excellent work at Vixen, Tushy and the various named Blacked.com websites.
As for couples you have Kevin and Sandra Otterson - aka Wifey and Hubby - of Wifey's World. Francesca Le' and Mark Wood at LeWood Productions, and Kelly and Ryan Madison for developing her site and Pornfidelity.
Photographers and graphic artists such as Suze Randall, Holly Randall, Earl Miller, J. Stephen Hicks, Mark Lit, Buzz Aziani, Brandon Michaels, Ray Balboa, Ryan Madison, Martin Perreault, JD (Bella Pass along with Bryci), Woody aka Rascal Dog, Andy McFarland, Rich Cutrone, Anton Fury (his sites and Gent-On-Line et al.), Denys DeFrancesco (of DDF Network fame), Filippo Sano, and the owners of MetArt, Femjoy and Nubile Films also play a big part in all of this.
Thumbs down
to your degradation of women.====
I guess this guy has never seen a Hustler magazine. (See the June 1978 Hustler magazine)
Larry Flynt has been doing this decades before ANYONE. You can thank Mr. Flynt for those court cases on first amendment rights. Had he not won in court - there would be no internet pornography today. He paved the way!
====
Hugh Hefner put women in a good light.
The next two people you can put on the influential list are Bob Guccione of Penthouse and Al Goldstein of Screw.
====
The best porn-site(s) ever? Wicked Pictures (Steve Orenstein, Brad Armstrong, and Axel Braun and that ownership team) or Vivid Entertainment (Steve Hirsch et al) before they became a "sex-tape" and "parody films" joke.
Adult-com was very good. As were the offshoot websites: Big Sausage Pizza, Euro Bride Tryouts, and Milf Cruiser. As was Mr. Big Dicks Hot Chicks. Even the Italians: Rocco Siffredi, Mario Salieri, and John Stagliano (Evil Angel) and his one time partner Irishman Patrick Collins too (from Elegant Angel.) have to be ranked higher than Max Hardcore and the owners of meatholes or facial abuse.
What Jules Jordan has done at his website is fan-tas-tic.
As for women owned businesses, Jill Kelly, Jenna Jameson, Danni Ashe, Sandee Westgate, Molly Cavalli and Nina Mercedez did amazing work. Catalina Cruz, Kelly Madison, Rachel Aziani, Vicky Vette, Lisa Ann, Chloe Vevrier, Nadine Jansen, Lisa Sparxxx, Bianca Beauchamp, Masuimi Max and Miss Hybrid are keeping it golden with the tremendous work. Christie Hefner (the ex-CEO of Playboy Enterprises) was responsible for the Playboy CyberGirls and the Playboy Plus websites. Bella French developed ManyVids. Gloria Leonard was the first female publisher of High Society magazine.
Look at what Kayden Kross and Stormy Daniels are doing today behind the camera as directors.
====
As for mainstream websites, you can put Brazzers in there (before they were owned by Manwin / Mindgeek) - Even Digital Playground, Twistys and Reality Kings too (before they were acquired by Manwin.) then Naughty America and Bang Bros.
Kink.com, Cum-Louder and the Score Group (Scoreland.com) are other landmark websites.
Frenchman Manuel Ferrara is doing commendable work at his named site. Another Frenchman Greg Lansky is doing excellent work at Vixen, Tushy and the various named Blacked.com websites.
As for couples you have Kevin and Sandra Otterson - aka Wifey and Hubby - of Wifey's World. Francesca Le' and Mark Wood at LeWood Productions, and Kelly and Ryan Madison for developing her site and Pornfidelity.
Photographers and graphic artists such as Suze Randall, Holly Randall, Earl Miller, J. Stephen Hicks, Mark Lit, Buzz Aziani, Brandon Michaels, Ray Balboa, Ryan Madison, Martin Perreault, JD (Bella Pass along with Bryci), Woody aka Rascal Dog, Andy McFarland, Rich Cutrone, Anton Fury (his sites and Gent-On-Line et al.), Denys DeFrancesco (of DDF Network fame), Filippo Sano, and the owners of MetArt, Femjoy and Nubile Films also play a big part in all of this.
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