Archbishop Warns of Economic Dogmatism

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/200...itain-Archbishop-Economics.html?_r=1&emc=eta1


"LONDON (AP) -- Thoughtless adherence to economic theories can be as dangerous as blind obedience to political ideology, the head of the Church of the England said Monday, drawing parallels with **** Germany.

In an article published in Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams warned of the dangers of forgetting the costs to individuals in the rush to defend a system.

''We're bound to be uncomfortably aware at the moment that what looked like a principled defense of some our economic assumptions ... seems more ragged and vulnerable than it once did,'' he said.

If society doesn't consider the impact of its policies, ''we've lost the essential moral compass,'' he wrote.

Williams did not specify which assumptions he was referring to, although he has been sharply critical of advocates for unrestrained free markets. He has called the push to banish restrictions on trade and investment ''a sort of fundamentalism'' and described ''unbridled capitalism'' as a form of idolatry.

In his article, Williams mentioned the erosion of pensions, job losses, and the impact of the financial crisis on the Third World as some of the consequences of unswerving loyalty to economic dogma.

Williams drew a parallel with the Nazis, who he said had created a system of principles that ignored ''the human face of suffering.''

While he said the Western world had not seen anything like the horrors of the Nazis in a long time, he warned that ''we are not completely immune from appealing to 'principles' in order to help us avoid some of the harsher consequences of our policies and preferences.''

Williams is the spiritual leader of the 77 million-member Anglican Communion -- the third-largest group of churches in the world, behind Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christians."




Even as an atheist I need to give him credit for speaking out and being right in his assesment IMO.

Thoughts?
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I was a member of the Episcopal church for years and their views have always been very liberal (i.e. the recent flap and division over gay marriage and gay priests). It's pretty obvious that what is happening right now is indeed a form of idolitry....when the authorities are willing to invoke political philosophies to which they have historically been loath to do (in the case of the recent bailouts....a blatant and perverted form of socialism) just to maintain the status quo as far as the "capitalistic" economic system goes. If it becomes a convenient time to do away with other bothersome trappings of the working class like, oh let's say, labor unions, then all the better! Such a policy is always going to favor the "haves" and, as far as the "have nots"....uhhh, I think the popular phrase used by a French monarch in the late 1700s was "Let them eat cake".
 
I couldn’t agree more. Jesus never said anything one way or the other about gays, but he sure was pretty clear on how we are supposed to help the less fortunate. He didn’t mince words when it came to people who are consumed by greed and power.
 
I was a member of the Episcopal church for years and their views have always been very liberal (i.e. the recent flap and division over gay marriage and gay priests). It's pretty obvious that what is happening right now is indeed a form of idolitry....when the authorities are willing to invoke political philosophies to which they have historically been loath to do (in the case of the recent bailouts....a blatant and perverted form of socialism) just to maintain the status quo as far as the "capitalistic" economic system goes. If it becomes a convenient time to do away with other bothersome trappings of the working class like, oh let's say, labor unions, then all the better! Such a policy is always going to favor the "haves" and, as far as the "have nots"....uhhh, I think the popular phrase used by a French monarch in the late 1700s was "Let them eat cake".

Yep and they should remember what became of Marie Antoinette.
 
Even if our countries embrace the capitalism, it still is an ideology. That's true. Some of us embrace capitalism as a faith, the market autoregulation as an unquestionnable dogma. We are also deeply materialists, which is also an ideology.

While i'm not sure what the Archbishop is trying to push, for sure, the fact he reminds us that we are always dancing between faith and ideology is nice. We too often forget those simple facts. It's like our point blank: it's always there and we don't notice unless we are doing the effort to see what is there.

Humans are ideological/faith *******. Good or bad, that's a relative viewpoint.

We arent only homo economicus, we are also homo religious...

When our leaders are facing a capitalist crash, they are the first to use socialists way to get out of trouble. Yet, that socialism is only there to support capitalism and is still considered *evil*... Point blank? When something is made in the name of [insert faith name here], it's always good?

Go figure.

:dunno:

:2 cents:
 
Socialism is not a good way of running the economy ; countries which have genuinely tried this-notably the USSR-have failed.Basically it doesn't deliver the goods.Capitalism does deliver the goods but if allowed full reign does not consider individuals.The trick is to let capitalism generate the wealth but have limits and controls to protect individuals.That is socialism's contribution.
 
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