I tried to grow a goatee once, a long long time ago....my facial hair growth at the time (about 20yo) wasn't fantastic, it took nearly 2 weeks to get something resembling a goatee but by then it was driving me nuts. I haven't had more than a few days growth ever since. Right now in Australia, half the male population are attempting to grow Mo's for whats called Movember, to raise awareness and funds for mens health issues like prostate and testicular cancer. So it does kinda look like were back in the 70s all of a sudden, or there's a pedo convention in town at the moment....