And This is How Obama Remembers 9/11?

[Hot Mega]

And it says "Not for attribution" which means The comments may be quoted directly, but the source may only be identified in general terms (e.g., "a government insider"). And it also says

"No administration official is yet putting his or her name on these facts, the plans are being described on a not-for-attribution basis to Washington reporters. The most authoritiative current version is in this morning's New York Times. The facts are attributed to administration and Pentagon officials who are not named"

So someone in the adminstration or Pentagon gave this report, but does not want their name attached to it.

Exactly! So until it's an official plan....it's not one.

 

[Philbert]

I am truly beginning to believe HotMega is a Glenn Beck disciple and a GOP plant...people are beginning to use his posts like they used DrunkenMaster Sen. Kennedy's positions in the 80's and 90's...markers to know where to stand 180 degrees opposite (in case someone needed a starting point).
No one can be sincere and speak so eloquently out of both sides of their face...:bowdown:

:rofl::thumbsup:

 

[Philbert]

So people are mad at Obama because he's going after "Right-wing domestic terrorists".

Why is that a bad thing? Why would you support domestic terrorism in any form? Or is it OK if it backs your own political ideology? The defense departments definition of what terrorism is and how it investigates that has not changed under Obama. If he arrested everyone who disagreed with him as a terrorist there would be no one on Freeones right now.

People are also mad because he's holding a meeting to discuss his political agenda, in this case his health care reform plan.

So the president is not allowed to do his job on 9/11 because it commemorates a national tragedy? And is it just Obama, or is no one allowed to do anything in politics on that day? What exactly are we supposed to do, spend the entire day only talking about 9/11 and no one else is allowed to do anything else?

That's pretty stupid.

Ahem...so was that post.
Twisted a lot of facts, though...skillful disseminating! :thumbsup:

 

[Hot Mega]

I am truly beginning to believe HotMega is a Glenn Beck disciple and a GOP plant...people are beginning to use his posts like they used DrunkenMaster Sen. Kennedy's positions in the 80's and 90's...markers to know where to stand 180 degrees opposite (in case someone needed a starting point).
No one can be sincere and speak so eloquently out of both sides of their face...

Poor Philby....no one can use so many words to say absolutely nothing relevant like ol Philbster..:bowdown:

 

[Facial_King]

Some relevant facts:

Reagan did something very similar to this:
http://conflictingreports.wordpress...ress-to-students-in-1988-broadcast-on-c-span/

So did George Bush I:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter...-obama-not-first-president-address-school-ch/

Even if Obama simply says "I had a blast in high school, and I hope you kids enjoy it as much as I did!" the right-wing will still insist that it's some sort of propaganda.

 

[jasonk282]

Some relevant facts:

Reagan did something very similar to this:
http://conflictingreports.wordpress...ress-to-students-in-1988-broadcast-on-c-span/

So did George Bush I:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter...-obama-not-first-president-address-school-ch/

Even if Obama simply says "I had a blast in high school, and I hope you kids enjoy it as much as I did!" the right-wing will still insist that it's some sort of propaganda.

Not me. I have stated in a preiovus thread that I have no problem with Obama talking to our childeren and how important school is. What I have a problem with is that they Department of Education is giving the students homework and talking points on this speech. This is the teachers job to have our students discuss and write about it.

I was around for both speechs in elementry school for Reagan and Jr. High for Bush and I really don't remember having to do homework on their speeches.

 

[Gordar]

Stupid Obama freed Guantanamo detainees that will certainly be back to attack the USA. Closing Guantanamo in order to please to the UN and show some humanism as well kissing the arab nations asses is a job at which Obama excels. I don't consider Barrak Hussein Obama as a real American but clearly more as an Americanized Arab, Barrak and Hussein are not American first names but Arab first names, using that senseless argument that he represents all Americans when it is not true is not valid and useless. He represents mainly the poor, the ghetto people as well as black muslims. He was elected thanks to communautarianist vote based on massive marketing hype not something else. He also said that Islam is an important asset to the American history, since when Islam has been an important asset to the American history? Since, he likes Farrakhan and the other moronic reverend that backed him up? Before you jump on me like a bandwagon for criticizing Obama and his roots, know that in France, the people who wanted him so badly to be president, were people of the ghetto, muslims, teachers and fucking students and people who don't have a good position in the society.
This is my honest opinion and it will remain as such.
Naivety is a common flaw that liberals have as well as lacking patriotism and pragmatism when it comes to take measures that are efficient and immediate.
What kind of measures has taken Daddy O since the start of his term? Only fucked up ones. Yet you still think that Daddy O will fix the economy over the short run? Please get real.

I don't care who the president of the US is, whether it's Bush, Obama, Yogi Bear, the Dalai Lama or Ted Bundy, nor do I care what nationality their parents or ancestors have.

I don't know if the Islam has ever been an important asset of the US' history, but it has been a part of it since the earliest days of the slave trade nonetheless as 10% of the slaves transported to the US were muslim.

It's nice to know that 65% of the French population lives in ghettos, as independent polls have concluded that that is the amount of French people that favored Obama, whereas only 8% favored McCain. The others probably couldn't care less.

The only country outside of the US where McCain was favored as highly or even slightly more than Obama was in fact Jordan (22% for Obama & 23% for McCain). I hope I don't have to point out that this is a Mulsim nation.

You have every right to an opinion, like everyone else, but if you post it, make clear that it is just that, an opinion, and don't state it like it's a fact, which it isn't.

 

[urgeag]

When will you guys realized this is not about D and R. Its about being a free people vs govt oppression.

sad but true- seems like both parties care far more about the party than the people. the fact that it is almost impossible to finance an election without being in quite a few pockets is helpin much either.

 

[titsrock]

Yeah man and most of the terrorist leaders who were involved with it and other mass murders, well at least when Bush was prez.
Clinton did bomb a pharmacutical factory and thusfar Obama has done nothing, except record spending to push his communist intentions.

And we don't have a new building because there a thing in the US called capitalism.
When somebody wants to, they will buy the land and build something.

Clinton bombed Pharma buildings? In Iraq? You're not pulling out the old spray-painted "baby formula factory" stuff from Gulf War 1, are you? Are Democratic presidents incapable of being effective military leaders, but Republicans are effective? Cuz I don't remember Clinton declaring "Mission Accomplished" and I don't recall Dubya achieving at capturing/eliminating Osama? Do you?

You really think Capitalism is the reason no building has gotten reconstructed at Ground Zero? Seriously. That's ridiculous. If we're going to create a National Holiday over 9/11, isn't it reasonable to MAKE RECONSTRUCTION OF SOME BUILDING A NATIONAL PRIORITY! C'mon. We don't need "Patriot Day" to become a reason to go down to the Chevy lot and get a big deal on an SUV, do we?

 

[meesterperfect]

Clinton bombed Pharma buildings? In Iraq? You're not pulling out the old spray-painted "baby formula factory" stuff from Gulf War 1, are you? Are Democratic presidents incapable of being effective military leaders, but Republicans are effective? Cuz I don't remember Clinton declaring "Mission Accomplished" and I don't recall Dubya achieving at capturing/eliminating Osama? Do you?

You really think Capitalism is the reason no building has gotten reconstructed at Ground Zero? Seriously. That's ridiculous. If we're going to create a National Holiday over 9/11, isn't it reasonable to MAKE RECONSTRUCTION OF SOME BUILDING A NATIONAL PRIORITY! C'mon. We don't need "Patriot Day" to become a reason to go down to the Chevy lot and get a big deal on an SUV, do we?

Well clinton sure wasn't. The closest thing he achieved militarily was killing those people in Waco.
Everything else he did was a disaster and people died for nothing.
And I don't think Sept 11 should have a holiday, does it? I hope not.
Of course the country should move on, but that day really not be forgotten, we all know that old saying.

So people are mad at Obama because he's going after "Right-wing domestic terrorists".

Why is that a bad thing? Why would you support domestic terrorism in any form? Or is it OK if it backs your own political ideology? The defense departments definition of what terrorism is and how it investigates that has not changed under Obama. If he arrested everyone who disagreed with him as a terrorist there would be no one on Freeones right now.

People are also mad because he's holding a meeting to discuss his political agenda, in this case his health care reform plan.

So the president is not allowed to do his job on 9/11 because it commemorates a national tragedy? And is it just Obama, or is no one allowed to do anything in politics on that day? What exactly are we supposed to do, spend the entire day only talking about 9/11 and no one else is allowed to do anything else?

That's pretty stupid.

Dude, Cal, the right wing terrorists are the people who disagree with him, not just a few possible militia types.
Other than McVeigh,and Obamas friends William Ayers and Tony Rezko, has domestic terrorism really been a big problem? Especially compared to muslim terrorists?
Its obvious why he chose that day to push his healthcare scheme.
I'm gonna say it, and based on his actions, words and associations.
He's glad sept 11 happened, he was glad on that day, and he's still glad.
Now that he has the power, he is rubbing it in the faces of those who are not glad.

 

[Hot Mega]

Well clinton sure wasn't. The closest thing he achieved militarily was killing those people in Waco.
Everything else he did was a disaster and people died for nothing.
And I don't think Sept 11 should have a holiday, does it? I hope not.
Of course the country should move on, but that day really not be forgotten, we all know that old saying.

Why couldn't the people in the Waco compound just come out like most other normal people do when a LEA shows up at their front door?

Dude, Cal, the right wing terrorists are the people who disagree with him, not just a few possible militia types.
Other than McVeigh,and Obamas friends William Ayers and Tony Rezko, has domestic terrorism really been a big problem? Especially compared to muslim terrorists?
Its obvious why he chose that day to push his healthcare scheme.
I'm gonna say it, and based on his actions, words and associations.
He's glad sept 11 happened, he was glad on that day, and he's still glad.
Now that he has the power, he is rubbing it in the faces of those who are not glad.

Obama said he was glad terrorists attacked us on 9/11??? When?

And yes...domestic terrorism is a big problem....but honestly..going into a big weekend...I'm not sure I have the energy to refute some of the nonsense you typically trot out....

 

[meesterperfect]

Oh jeez, lets not get really deep into waco, but, if the adults inside the compound were really child molesting religious fanatical terrorists crazy people like the FBI, and reno said, then knowing this and knowing there are children, seniors and other innocent people inside why throw in concussion grenades and then set it on fire with tanks with freakin flamethrowers, murdering those innocent kids?
Shouldn't the GOV have protected them, not kill them?

And ofcourse Obama never said he was glad, I didn't say he did.
To me its obvious, to you, its not, thats all.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Other than McVeigh,and Obamas friends William Ayers and Tony Rezko, has domestic terrorism really been a big problem? Especially compared to muslim terrorists?
Its obvious why he chose that day to push his healthcare scheme.
I'm gonna say it, and based on his actions, words and associations.
He's glad sept 11 happened, he was glad on that day, and he's still glad.
Now that he has the power, he is rubbing it in the faces of those who are not glad.

MR P I don't know all that much about the Rezko guy but never heard he was in any way associated with any thing remotely terroristic or violent.And Bill Ayers activites were over 40 years in the 60s,probably before you were born so I don't think that has much relevance to today.

I really have not heard Obama or the administration talking much about domestic terrorism as though it was a big worry or priority.

But I really don't get why Obama would be happy 9/11 happened, then or now.Forgeting the issue that many people died and you would think no one would have been happy about that, I don't see how in any way 9/11 benefited him eithier then or now.Really even though I would never say GWB was happy 9/11 happened I think he got to use that to his advantage more than anyone else.

Ya know I saw David Brooks of the NY times who is moderate to right leaning reporter on the PBS Newshour tonight.Him and a guy named Shields who is more left leaning discuss issues.They got round to discussing this thing about Obama talking to school kids next teusday and reaction to it by some on the right.Brooks was saying how these people are really hurting the conservative side with such what he called whacky ideas like Obama is the devil himself or some marxist etc. So I guess I am saying statements like Obama was happy about 9/11 fall into that over the top category and really hurts your arguements against Obama.

 

[jasonk282]

Domestic Terrorist is and this is taken straight from the patroit act:
Under current United States law, set forth in the USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."

Kinda like the Weather Underground, but we will get to that later.
Notable domestic terrorist
Animal liberation Front
Army of God
Black Liberation Army
Jewish Defense League
KKK
Symbionese Liberation Army
Weather Underground Organization

Seems like all but the Army of God and the KKK are left wing groups. So i guess all them Milita groups don;t gather a interest for the DHS.

 

[Hot Mega]

Oh jeez, lets not get really deep into waco, but, if the adults inside the compound were really child molesting religious fanatical terrorists crazy people like the FBI, and reno said, then knowing this and knowing there are children, seniors and other innocent people inside why throw in concussion grenades and then set it on fire with tanks with freakin flamethrowers, murdering those innocent kids?
Shouldn't the GOV have protected them, not kill them?

Again, when law enforcement came to serve warrants...why didn't the people in the Waco compound comply as would any other persons with common sense??

And ofcourse Obama never said he was glad, I didn't say he did.
To me its obvious, to you, its not, thats all.

Re-read your post. You think you didn't say that but your post certainly did. English teacher?

 

[jasonk282]

Well clinton sure wasn't. The closest thing he achieved militarily was killing those people in Waco.
Everything else he did was a disaster and people died for nothing.
And I don't think Sept 11 should have a holiday, does it? I hope not.
Of course the country should move on, but that day really not be forgotten, we all know that old saying.



Dude, Cal, the right wing terrorists are the people who disagree with him, not just a few possible militia types.
Other than McVeigh,and Obamas friends William Ayers and Tony Rezko, has domestic terrorism really been a big problem? Especially compared to muslim terrorists?
Its obvious why he chose that day to push his healthcare scheme.
I'm gonna say it, and based on his actions, words and associations.
He's glad sept 11 happened, he was glad on that day, and he's still glad.
Now that he has the power, he is rubbing it in the faces of those who are not glad.

Apprently I'm gonna say it means Obama:dunno:
I don't see Obama saying anything, what I do see though is a persond deciding that through Obama's word's actions and people he associtated with(Ayers, Van Jones) that Obama would be happy it happened.

 

[Philbert]

Poor Philby....no one can use so many words to say absolutely nothing relevant like ol Philbster..:bowdown:

Well, HotSmegma, I am referring to the posts where you use identical language like the others you constantly criticize for doing so, to give an impression of making a statement, then when called on it by someone you point out a word or 2 you used that actually means you really didn't say what you really did say.
Remember?
Or are you blameless 'cause you only do LibSpeak and that can't be wrong...ever.
Only misinterpreted by Right Wing Terrorists ... :rofl2:

 

[Hot Mega]

Well, HotSmegma, I am referring to the posts where you use identical language like the others you constantly criticize for doing so, to give an impression of making a statement, then when called on it by someone you point out a word or 2 you used that actually means you really didn't say what you really did say.
Remember?
Or are you blameless 'cause you only do LibSpeak and that can't be wrong...ever.
Only misinterpreted by Right Wing Terrorists ... :rofl2:

Okay...so it should be easy to point out then...go.

 

[Philbert]

Reread all your previous posts and get back to me...
I'll give you a few minutes, but after you've done your homework.

 

[Hot Mega]

Reread all your previous posts and get back to me...
I'll give you a few minutes, but after you've done your homework.

Just as I thought...thanks for playing.:wave2: