An anarchist in retrospect - for the hell of it.
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Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Because, as we all know, Fox news would never lie.
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Carlin gets in a few remarks before they cut him off.
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Because, as we all know, Fox news would never lie.
Just the same, it's authenticated.
Were there any omissions or adjustments that you'd like to address.
I will always wonder why they executed him as swiftly as the did. Unprecedented !
Yeah, Me too :thumbsup:
While I understand that due to the saturation of media coverage on Ayers many might think he is someone who bombed this or that, he never was prosecuted for or convicted of anything of the sort.His wife did some time I think for being involved as an accomplice in a bombing but William Ayers never was.
But to answer your question the "weathermen" were a more radical arm of the group known as SDS (Students for a democratic society).These were all young people very much opposed to the Vietnam war in the late 60s.Which violence was worse, the one being perpertrated by the US govt in vietnam against the vietnamease using in many cases young americans against their will(drafted) or the the people like the weathermen who I know have gotten a lot of play lately but never really bombed or killed many people.
And I would point out all this happened more than 40 years ago when people like Obama were pre-teens and I'm sure never even heard about it.His connection to Ayers is through some work they both did on mainly something called the Annenberg project which was about education.Annenberg who funded it BTW was a well known republican and friend of Reagan.
Most people later after the vietnam war came round to the conclusion that people like the anti-war movement,the weatherman,Muhammad Ali (who refused to be drafted) had during the war.That the war in vietnam was immoral,unjustified and unwinnable.Funny how history repeats and we find out ourselves again in another immoral,unjustified and probably unwinnable war once again.
But to answer your question the "weathermen" were a more radical arm of the group known as SDS (Students for a democratic society).These were all young people very much opposed to the Vietnam war in the late 60s.Which violence was worse, the one being perpertrated by the US govt in vietnam against the vietnamease using in many cases young americans against their will(drafted) or the the people like the weathermen who I know have gotten a lot of play lately but never really bombed or killed many people.
And I would point out all this happened more than 40 years ago when people like Obama were pre-teens and I'm sure never even heard about it.His connection to Ayers is through some work they both did on mainly something called the Annenberg project which was about education.Annenberg who funded it BTW was a well known republican and friend of Reagan.
Most people later after the vietnam war came round to the conclusion that people like the anti-war movement,the weatherman,Muhammad Ali (who refused to be drafted) had during the war.That the war in vietnam was immoral,unjustified and unwinnable.Funny how history repeats and we find out ourselves again in another immoral,unjustified and probably unwinnable war once again.
I remember when it happened, and the first thing other than the anniversary date was it was exactly due North on the same road as Waco.
All true according to my recollection.
Just the same, it's authenticated.
Were there any omissions or adjustments that you'd like to address.
I will always wonder why they executed him as swiftly as the did. Unprecedented !
Yeah, Me too :thumbsup:
I seem to remember he requested that, no appeals.
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well I can't really speak for Ayers, but based on statements that he has made and other members of the Weatherman group, their motivation for bombing government buildings was likely partially for psychological reasons to "bring it home" to the American public just what it was like to see civilian centers bombed (although they did so in a way that didn't actually target people) as a correlation to the bombings in Vietnam. I guess so that people would be like this is a really shitty thing to happen, so let's stop doing it to other people.
That would just be my guess. The practical purpose was to cause damage to the government that would force them to divert time and funds away from the war.
Another possibility is that the weatherman was a group of operatives formed by some branch of the government, possibly the CIA or FBI, in order to stage public performances depicted as anti-government activity in order to draw attention away from the Watergate scandal and to sway the public against the anti-war movement and to justify targeting of non-violent leftist/peace/radical groups.
I'm not saying that's it's totally obvious, but I do think that it is pretty fishy that most of the major terrorist attacks in the nation (JFK, MLK assassinations,Unibomber, OKC bombing, WTC attack) involved individuals that were connected to the US military. And that's not even a conspiracy, everyone knows that's a fact.
Oswald was a marine, James earl ray was, I believe, in the army, McVeigh was in the army, Ted Kazynski(sp?) was involved in psych experiments at Harvard under the guy who ran the CIA's Mk Ultra, and well, I think we all know the connection between the military and the taliban and USB.
To paraphrase Oj Simpson: I'm not saying that they did it, but this is how it might have happened if they did.
To paraphrase Oj Simpson: I'm not saying that they did it, but this is how it might have happened if they did.
My understanding is that most of the really violent weatherman group, accidentally blew themselves up whilst trying to make a bomb to explode at a Marines dance.
Imo, terrorists of democratic, generally unrepressive countries (like U.S.A., Canada, G.B., etc.) that use violence are not fighting for a cause. They are just angry, possibly disturbed people that use their 'causes' as a way to vent their bitterness and misery. Especially, those that endanger/injure civilians. Their bullies, purely and simply.
Imo, terrorists of democratic, generally unrepressive countries (like U.S.A., Canada, G.B., etc.) that use violence are not fighting for a cause. They are just angry, possibly disturbed people that use their 'causes' as a way to vent their bitterness and misery. Especially, those that endanger/injure civilians. Their bullies, purely and simply.
JFK's and MLK's assassinations were just that, assassinations, by no strech could they be called terrorist attacks.
The Unibomber's bombs weren't what I would call terrorist attacks either.
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