Americans' trust in the mass market media continues to sink

[Rey C.]

Whether it's from a left wing or right wing source, Americans no longer trust what the talking (or writing) heads in the media tell us - and it's gone from bad to worse for the media over the past few years. At least for the people, that tells me that there is a glimmer of hope. Not everyone is willing to be in the great herd of sheeple.

Will the media wake up or will they continue to spin things in such an obvious fashion that those with an IQ higher than a dim light bulb will just continue to them?


This is from September, but there is a more recent Gallup poll that I can't link right now.

Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' trust and confidence in the mass media "to report the news fully, accurately and fairly" has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. This is down eight percentage points from last year.

I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of the posters here about this. And remember, this is NOT (just) a right wing or left wing issue. It's an American issue.

 

[sean miguel]

The tale of two busts (and no, not breastesses). For years I remember Hannity on Fox News pointing out that Obama had given Winston Churchill's bust back to England because he wasn't a fan.

And then this latest with MLK's bust in the Oval Office being removed (though that reporter has since corrected himself?)

Just been catching snippets over the weekend from the tv playing in the background while working on a project.

But both accounts turned out not to be true but elicited "well of course he did" from both sides.

 

[Straight Shooter]

The tale of two busts (and no, not breastesses). For years I remember Hannity on Fox News pointing out that Obama had given Winston Churchill's bust back to England because he wasn't a fan.

And then this latest with MLK's bust in the Oval Office being removed (though that reporter has since corrected himself?)

Just been catching snippets over the weekend from the tv playing in the background while working on a project.

But both accounts turned out not to be true but elicited "well of course he did" from both sides.

That's how the the game is played. Both sides are full of shit

 

[Jack Davenport]

That's how the the game is played. Both sides are full of shit

Then you should change your name to " Independenthack"

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

It's nice to have the internet to be able to read from different sources from different perspectives and average out the bullshit.

 

[meesterperfect]

It's nice to have the internet to be able to read from different sources from different perspectives and average out the bullshit.

Yes it is DV.
And that can be a task at times.
Many people including myself to an extant just say screw it and tune out completely at some point.
Semi on/off topic in my view a common occurrance is people investigate JFK, then 9/11, then the Banking Cartels, various mass shooting, ect.
In doing this they become exposed to many independant news sites and yootoob channels and they gain trust of many of them thinking they have finally found some honest journalism/reporting. It feels good.
Then they begin to realize that many of the places/people they just thought were the voz of truth and reason are full of crap too.
(And the ones who don't ever realize that can easily become kooks).
Some are just sensationalists and many are actually plants to discredit the entire independant media.
Thats a bad feeling and it causes some to not trust anybody anymore and then they tune out.
But after time, if you don't give up, you might find a few news sources that just report stuff as they happen.Stuff that the MSM either ignores or lies about.

But what a frustrating pain in the hiney along the way it is.

Then there is 2016. The year when many people with many views from many "places" woke up.
The over the top biased to destroy Trump. The Hiliary email mess, the Wikileaks, and the general extremely biased "reporting" from the MSM made people who weren't even looking realize how much propaganda and dishonesty they are and have been being sold their entire lives.

So realizing this they came up with a plan to shut it down. Shut down independant media all together.
I detected it immediately when Hiliary mentioned "The Alt-Right" and AJones and infowars in a speech I believe in late summer.
Saying his name and his site was no mistake. Why would she bring worldwide attention to a website and host who trashes her daily?
Not a mistake but a long term gamble.
Then they stole the term Fake News from me (hey ya never know), and ran with that.
They put out a campaign to "expose Fake News" as an attempt to suck recently woken up people back to the MSM and their lies and to prevent the rest from ever going there in the future.
Even sending an actor into cometpizza with a rifle to show "the danger of Fake News".
Yes that was a hoax.

But she still lost, more and more people still don't trust them, and they are losing revenue big time.
And I don't see them mending their ways much either. CNN is in all out bullshit mode. ABC and NBC are kind of just the same. CBS seems to be getting a little more serious but is still genarally full of crap.
And FOX and T Carlson seem to be trying to snag some of the disenchanted of us.
And there are still a slew of smaller news sources that are still propagandizing, then again they are all owned by the same big six media companies.
Maybe that will begin to change as Trump carries on. Hope so.
Honest media is so important for The People of any country.

Had she won we would have seen such an attack on independant media. Laws passed, sites removed, people censured.
It would have been bad.
I hope Trump has a good and healthy 8 years and his replacement doesn't take us back to all that bad stuff.

 

[bodie54]

I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of the posters here about this. And remember, this is NOT (just) a right wing or left wing issue. It's an American issue.

Overall trust in the mass media. Such a hard question because so much of it is trash but elements of it still provide greater reliability than any alternative.

So count me among those who still has a good level of trust in the core of the traditional MSM.
Certainly a ton more than in alt news sites and sources who dispense an avalanche of garbage-for-profit and do so with no journalistic standards or sense of responsibility whatsoever.
If I want to read news I'm still most likely to turn to BBC, Reuters, and AP first with NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC as a second tier.
Even Fox. flawed as it is known to be, stands well above so much of the current alt media slime.

 

[xfire]

Never really understood the bellyaching about the "MSM", at least not as far as the nightly news goes. I haven't watched network news in ages, but when I did I didn't doubt the accuracy of Peter Jennings, Charles Gibson, etc., oh sure, they got shit wrong occasionally, but it wasn't to deliberately deceive. Watching anything on cable, anyone going into that environment not knowing that they're not getting news but political entertainment is a special kind of stupid.

 

[meesterperfect]

Overall trust in the mass media. Such a hard question because so much of it is trash but elements of it still provide greater reliability than any alternative.

So count me among those who still has a good level of trust in the core of the traditional MSM.
Certainly a ton more than in alt news sites and sources who dispense an avalanche of garbage-for-profit and do so with no journalistic standards or sense of responsibility whatsoever.
If I want to read news I'm still most likely to turn to BBC, Reuters, and AP first with NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC as a second tier.
Even Fox. flawed as it is known to be, stands well above so much of the current alt media slime.

No offense seriously, but maybe that explains a lot as to how you see the world.
I know by saying that I am opening myself up to critizism.
All those you mentioned have no journalistic responsability at all.
They all read from the same script, literally, and they are all selling the same thing and they all get their money from the same sources.
They have also tricked you into "the Alt Right" nonsense.
I prefer the more accurate word independant news. Not all of it is flat earth, lizard people, and chemtrails and are run by some former advocate for the people who sold out years ago.

It's your life but you really shouldn't trust anything you here from those sources you stated ever.

 

[xfire]

I prefer the more accurate word independant news.

Care to share some direct links to your main sources of information? Or are they like Pirate Radio and constantly on the move?

 

[bobjustbob]

The MSM are the large. They have people everywhere and the first to report and get the statements. That is not a bad thing. News in real time. When you are reporting in real time, statements get presented as they are received real or not. It's imposable to fact check as fast as the event is going on. There will be discrepancies and false facts. It happened before the Interweb and continues today. It can't be avoided.

What we have today are sites and organizations that report without being at grown zero. Take a report and re-report it. Plenty of room for bias. These organizations are also selling Big Macs and things to keep your dick hard. I'll agree that we were sold a load of shit about Viet Nam and Iraq and we are now in an age of questioning media and events. Questioning media is a good thing but be diligent about what to accept and believe.

 

[Rattrap]

I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of the posters here about this.

The reason for this distrust is pretty simple: Comcast, Newscorp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, and CBS do not own the vast majority of media companies to inform. They own them to profit. And there is no profit to informing people to what's going on - quite the opposite, in fact.

 

[meesterperfect]

Care to share some direct links to your main sources of information? Or are they like Pirate Radio and constantly on the move?

Good posts bob and Ratt.

I shouldn't answer you X because you clearly aren't interested in the hope of gaining knowledge but rather critique and find fault.

Bob and Ratt just summed it up perfectly really.

For example today I just watched the videos of Trump signing orders and giving brief explanations of them.
No commentary.
I watched a bit of yesterdays press conference by Sean Spicer. The first about 15 minutes then about a half hour of the press questions.
I saw a very open and transparent person giving the most complete answers he could.
Havent seen that in years. Usually its some weasel squirming to avoid answering anything.

I watch a guy named Michael Rivero (What really happened Show) before sleepy time many nights.
He mostly reads current news stories and takes some calls. I find out about events from his show that I may have missed due to lack of media coverage. And a few other channels I catch a few times a week.
Plus I scan msm articles as well but usually cant finish the articles due to all those tears of laughter filling my lovely eyes.
I like that guy Styx's political evaluations as well. I think he knows his stuff about politics and policies.
I also enjoy 4 or 5 people who make videos that clearly expose all the false flag fakery going on.
For example- Was this man shot 6 times less than 24 hours ago? The guy wearing a different street shirt in every interview that he did all day long with 6 bullets holes from an AR-15 at close range. Sometimes with oxygen and sometimes without.
When you get 6 bullets removed from your body that requires surgery correct?
Totally coherant, Not a hint of pain or that he just went through the trauma of not only being shot multiple times but seeing 50 people die right in front of him.
I'd be unable to speak I think for both physical and emotional reasons.

He was released the next day and his multiple gofundme pages that was created the day of the fake shooting are doing pretty good but not anywhere near Sandy Hook good.

In more recent Real News we have Jake RAAAK. He also was shot at close range in Istanbul with a high powered rifle in the lower leg.
He's looking good the next day at the airport going home. I guess that blue tinsel really worked wonders. Such a lovely grin.

And I'm far from alone on my thoughts on these events. If you look at the copmments in the msm videos on these thay are like 90% thumbs down. People know the truth.

 

[xfire]

I shouldn't answer you X because you clearly aren't interested in the hope of gaining knowledge but rather critique and find fault.

Well, I guess you followed your better instincts because t'wernt shant a fucking answer in thur.

 

[meesterperfect]

Well, I guess you followed your better instincts because t'wernt shant a fucking answer in thur.

Say whaaaa?
I told you how I get some of my news.
I also, as an added bonus posted some videos of fake news for those who cared to partake. Strictly for entertainment purposes.
But I know peoples time is precious and don't expect anyone to take part in my nonsense all the time.

Shot 6 times dude.

 

[xfire]

You failed to provide direct links to your main sources of information. Transcendental meditation does not count as a main source of information.

 

[meesterperfect]

you're being extra confrontational here.
I told you some of the places I get info.
The Names.
You need links?
There's goggle, yahooo, ask jeeves if youre that interested.
C'mon.

 

[pool_hustler]

When you get 6 bullets removed from your body that requires surgery correct?
Totally coherant, Not a hint of pain or that he just went through the trauma of not only being shot multiple times but seeing 50 people die right in front of him.
I'd be unable to speak I think for both physical and emotional reasons.

Well jeeze maybe you just need to actually live through something like this to get it.
While on vacation I was in a very severe (should have been fatal) car accident 30 years ago where just after impact my flesh was entered by several sharp, jagged high velocity projectiles comprised of broken glass and metal. Got lucky. Nothing hit a vital spot. Was taken to hospital. Objects were surgically removed, wounds stitched. I was on an airplane home the next day.

 

[xfire]

I shouldn't answer you X because you clearly aren't interested in the hope of gaining knowledge but rather critique and find fault.

For example today I just watched the videos of Trump signing orders and giving brief explanations of them.
No commentary.
I watched a bit of yesterdays press conference by Sean Spicer. The first about 15 minutes then about a half hour of the press questions.
I saw a very open and transparent person giving the most complete answers he could.
Havent seen that in years. Usually its some weasel squirming to avoid answering anything.

I watch a guy named Michael Rivero (What really happened Show) before sleepy time many nights.
He mostly reads current news stories and takes some calls. I find out about events from his show that I may have missed due to lack of media coverage. And a few other channels I catch a few times a week.
Plus I scan msm articles as well but usually cant finish the articles due to all those tears of laughter filling my lovely eyes.
I like that guy Styx's political evaluations as well. I think he knows his stuff about politics and policies.
I also enjoy 4 or 5 people who make videos that clearly expose all the false flag fakery going on.
For example- Was this man shot 6 times less than 24 hours ago? The guy wearing a different street shirt in every interview that he did all day long with 6 bullets holes from an AR-15 at close range. Sometimes with oxygen and sometimes without.
When you get 6 bullets removed from your body that requires surgery correct?
Totally coherant, Not a hint of pain or that he just went through the trauma of not only being shot multiple times but seeing 50 people die right in front of him.
I'd be unable to speak I think for both physical and emotional reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldsJvi5DqEM&t=284s
He was released the next day and his multiple gofundme pages that was created the day of the fake shooting are doing pretty good but not anywhere near Sandy Hook good.

In more recent Real News we have Jake RAAAK. He also was shot at close range in Istanbul with a high powered rifle in the lower leg.
He's looking good the next day at the airport going home. I guess that blue tinsel really worked wonders. Such a lovely grin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRTNZr-IAXM&t=40s

And I'm far from alone on my thoughts on these events. If you look at the copmments in the msm videos on these thay are like 90% thumbs down. People know the truth.

you're being extra confrontational here. I told you some of the places I get info. The Names. You need links? There's goggle, yahooo, ask jeeves if youre that interested. C'mon.

So, you watch a lot of youtube videos, is that about the extent of it? You should stand in front of the mirror and repeat to yourself that one comment for about an hour; "I shouldn't answer you X because you clearly aren't interested in the hope of gaining knowledge but rather critique and find fault.", and after you've got that last part about critique and fault finding down pat you should consider why the fuck shouldn't I critique and fault this shit, after all isn't critique and fault all you've got for these still unnamed "main-stream-media" sources of information? I'll tell you what the mainstream media and all those youtube channels have in common, "$$$", every time you watch one of those videos you're contributing to those "objective" motherfuckers bank accounts. If you don't think so you should really look into youtube video monetization, fucking hell man, start your own channel and get your chunk of youtube money.

I don't understand why you're so protective of any potential aggregator you might use, I guess you just don't want to put a target on them in fear I might take a few shots. Well, I think that's pretty cowardly considering how you freely take shots at whatever suits you at any given moment. I really don't see asking you a few questions as "confrontational", can you explain why you think it is?

 

[meesterperfect]

Not all yootoob channels get ad revenue. Actually very few do.
But yeah I watch it because I canceled my TV last year.
Can't handle all the commercials. Nothing much on anyway.
And why should I pay over 100 per month for basic cable and be forced to support bullshit like cnn and mtv?

Dont really understand the rest of your post.
the msm, or corporate media lies. They lie about everything.
They promote agendas that are against the best interest of everybody on the planet.
They propagandize like nothing this world has ever seen.
They are 100% untrustworthy.
And they are owned by zionist globalists.
No thanks.
And they can't even change their business model even if they wanted to.
They are paid to lie decieve and propagandize. That is their only purpose
If they suddenly changed to honest journalism they would lose the biggest part of their income which is not ad revenue.

I'm sorry you still trust them. Maybe one day you'll wake up