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All About the Republican National Convention in Cleveland July 18th -July 21st
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Well I have to give credit where credit is due, at least they didn't fuck up the second day. Notice all the pols that spoke talked about how bad Hillary was (like everybody didn't know that.) The only speakers who talked about Trump were family and friends! Everybody is positioning themselves for least damage in 2018 & 2020 if (really when) Trump bombs out on Election day.
Is Chris Christie really unaware that Iran is already a nation with nuclear power, and has been for decades? Or is he just playing games with semantics knowing his audience is too ignorant to understand those games?
And...didn't he get the memo from Rudy that Putin's an admirable role model when it comes to leadership?
And...didn't he get the memo from Rudy that Putin's an admirable role model when it comes to leadership?
Mayhem
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/politics/chris-christie-rnc.html
On Libya
Mr. Christie started in North Africa, accusing Mrs. Clinton of being the “chief engineer of the disastrous overthrow of Qaddafi in Libya.” Pretending to be a prosecutor speaking to a jury, he urged the raucous crowd to render a verdict. The crowd roared, “Guilty!”
Fact check: Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state during the period in question, and she did make a humanitarian case for intervening to prevent Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi from taking over Benghazi in 2011, when it appeared that his forces might kill more than 10,000 Libyan citizens. President Obama has expressed regret that plans for the aftermath of the strikes were not well thought-out, and that the world was wrong to expect the rebels to build a stable government there.
On Terrorism
In Nigeria, Mr. Christie said, Mrs. Clinton “amazingly fought for two years to keep an Al Qaeda affiliate off the terrorist watch list.” He said her actions had led directly to the kidnapping of hundreds of young girls by the group, Boko Haram, and demanded a verdict for “an apologist for an Al Qaeda affiliate.”
Fact check: The Clinton State Department did decline to add Boko Haram to its list of terrorist groups, in part because Islamic scholars and regional experts had urged it to try other means of confronting the group’s tactics. It did, however, put several Boko Haram leaders on other terrorist lists, and added the group in 2013.
On Trade
Mr. Christie accused Mrs. Clinton of being “desperate for Chinese cash” and said that in exchange for money to finance the Obama administration’s stimulus package, she had promised China that she would oppose the “Buy America” provision in the legislation. For supporting “big-government spending financed by the Chinese,” he called, “guilty or not guilty?”
Fact check: The Obama administration and Mrs. Clinton opposed the “Buy America” provision because, they said, it was a protectionist measure that could cause a trade war with China in the midst of an economic crisis.
On Syria
When Mr. Christie got to the topic of Syria, he reminded the crowd that Mrs. Clinton had called President Bashar al-Assad a reformer and “a different kind of leader.” He said she bore some responsibility for the deaths of the 400,000 people who have been killed in Syria’s civil war: as he put it, “dead at the hands of the man that Hillary defended.”
“As an awful judge of the character of a dictator and butcher in the Middle East,” he said, “guilty or not guilty?”
Fact check: Mrs. Clinton’s comments about Mr. Assad came in an interview in 2011, before much of the bloodshed, when she said that some members of Congress in both parties “believe he’s a reformer.” Some in the George W. Bush administration had also expressed hope that he would be a better leader than his father, Hafez al-Assad. And Mrs. Clinton did not “defend” the atrocities committed by Mr. Assad during the later period of the civil war.
On Iran
Mr. Christie delivered a familiar critique of the signature agreement of the Obama administration, though it was reached a year ago last week, or two and a half years after Mrs. Clinton left the State Department. “She launched the negotiations that brought about the worst nuclear deal in history,” he said.
Fact check: Mrs. Clinton did indeed press the effort, sending two secret emissaries to feel out the Iranians about beginning talks. Mr. Christie’s assertion that “America and the world are measurably less safe” because of the deal is far more questionable: Iran gave up 98 percent of its nuclear fuel, dismantled vast numbers of centrifuges and other nuclear infrastructure, and so far appears to have stuck to everything it agreed to. (It is in the areas outside the agreement — missile launches and support for terrorism — that Iran is pushing the envelope.)
On Russia
Mr. Christie accused Mrs. Clinton of giving President Vladimir V. Putin “that stupid, symbolic reset button,” and said she had harmed the United States’ security and sought instead to strengthen Russia.
Fact check: Mrs. Clinton did support a “reset” of relations with Russia early in the Obama administration, pursuing a hope of Mr. Obama’s that the United States could pull Russia into a closer and more effective working relationship. That effort failed as Mr. Putin consolidated power.
On Cuba
Mr. Christie said that Mrs. Clinton had “supported concessions to the Castro brothers” as part of the Obama administration’s outreach to Cuba. He also accused her of supporting the decision not to demand the release of a “cop killer” from Cuba who had murdered a New Jersey trooper. “As a coddler of the brutal Castro brothers,” he demanded, “guilty or not guilty?”
Fact check: Mrs. Clinton was already gone from the administration when Mr. Obama pursued secret negotiations with Cuba, though she did express support for his efforts.
On Her Emails
Finally, Mr. Christie accused Mrs. Clinton of choosing to set up a private email server in her home in order to protect her personal secrets. “Let’s face the facts: Hillary Clinton cared more about protecting her own secrets than she cared about protecting America’s secrets,” he said.
Fact check: Mrs. Clinton’s motivations for setting up the personal server have never been entirely clear. She said it was for her “convenience,” so she would not have to use multiple devices, though the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said recently that she had used several devices anyway. The F.B.I. investigation did find that Mrs. Clinton sent email over the unsecured network while in adversarial countries, though it did not determine whether she “cared more” about protecting her own secrets.
BCsSecretAlias
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I look forward to vigorous fact checking during the circus next week.
As for this:
Imagine the sandy vaginas if during a Republican administration you see something like this:
Oh the liberal bed wetting humanity!
As for this:
Imagine the sandy vaginas if during a Republican administration you see something like this:
Oh the liberal bed wetting humanity!
BCsSecretAlias
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Folks, Mayhem "The Situation" has spoken. That settles it.
BCsSecretAlias
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Yes because the bouillabaisse of informed partisans that show up in Philadelphia next week will hold the speakers to a strict diet of no bullshit and straight facts. :1orglaugh
yeah, no shit.
Multiple choice question:
Who very recently said this?
"We reach out our arms with understanding and compassion to those who have lost loved ones because of police shootings, some justified, some unjustified"
A) Barack Obama
B) Rudy Giuliani
Who very recently said this?
"We reach out our arms with understanding and compassion to those who have lost loved ones because of police shootings, some justified, some unjustified"
A) Barack Obama
B) Rudy Giuliani
Bouillabaisse is a traditional Provençal fish stew originating from the port city of Marseille. The French and English form bouillabaisse comes from the Provençal Occitan word bolhabaissa, a compound that consists of the two verbs bolhir (to boil) and abaissar (to reduce heat, i.e., simmer).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouillabaisse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouillabaisse
Mayhem
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Folks, BC "I Don't Need To Be Angry But It Feels Good" has spoken. That settles it.
As you inbred hillbillies need to keep being reminded, no one around here likes Hillary either. Sorry we can't do more to feed your hayseed rage. But I'm confident you'll find a way to muddle through.
BCsSecretAlias
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This "inbred hillbilly" could sit at one of your blackjack tables wearing a Ted Cruz t-shirt while trashing liberals and you'd have to keep your trap shut and hoping I'd occasionally throw you a toke. Just glancing at the scoreboard of life, it seems that a hayseed has made better decisions than you. Ponder on that one for a while.
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I haven't been watching, too much other stuff going on around la casa to pay attention, but I did see a headline where some former soap opera actor Sabato jr or something, declared Obama to be a muslin. I thought that was curious. How much time at the GOP convention has been devoted to campaigning against Obama instead of Hillary so far?
Mayhem
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I don't deal blackjack, moron. And lawyers rate several rungs lower than prostitutes and drug dealers to most of the world's population. No one goes to Vegas because they hate the people pitching cards to them. And like so many before you, you've made it clear that you're too stoopid to do my job. I don't need to hear that you wouldn't want to, you couldn't do it, you'd be one of the ones running from the room, or getting fired. Fact. And your pathetic dig about me keeping my trap shut while the asshole makes an asshole of himself. Yep. It's called talent. A talent that the best in my business share, and I'm one of them. As I'm continually reminded. And continuously paid.
And here's another reminder: The topic is in big, bold print at the top of the page and on every single post. But no, once again we have to make everything about you. No more Convention talk. That's only the title of the thread. BC is here, so topic is irrelevant.
You are a very tiring person to have around.
And here's another reminder: The topic is in big, bold print at the top of the page and on every single post. But no, once again we have to make everything about you. No more Convention talk. That's only the title of the thread. BC is here, so topic is irrelevant.
You are a very tiring person to have around.
Mayhem
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It seems that the're focusing on Hillary with only the occasional jab at Obama. Which is smart. I mean, we shouldn't have to classify it as smart but, considering the sheer tonnage of flickering lightbulbs that is a Republican Convention, let's just go ahead and call it smart. And they're doing it.
What strikes me as interesting (and you really should see the hilarity in it) is that they seem to be leaving Obamacare alone. Halfway through, maybe they'll take a few swings yet. But it seems like they've punched themselves out on it.
Mayhem
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Put your fist down idiot. But thanx for being a pathetic, cheerleading suckup. BC needs that sort of thing (constantly).
And you too: Read the Fucking Topic before posting. hick (and yes, that's hick with a small "h").