A Punch to the Face...a Venting Thread!

poggy1 said:
Sorry DB but it's near impossible to have a debate with more than 2 people in PM.I'm speaking from experence here,you end up sending 5 PM's to each member to explain what the others are saying as well as your own points.It get to confusing and you can't always refer back like you can on a thread.

The current bans are for many different reasons not just fighting in threads.In fact I know 2 members got ****** and that was personal from elsewhere even though one member wouldn't admit it.As it had nothing to do with the thread itself it was posted in.

Like I say some people air their grudges in public,which in my book is a no/no and should be done in PM.(This is my punch to the face)


Well to keep this from turning into a huge debate or fight I'm gonna say my final piece for the night and then retire. Yes I know its wishful thinking that a fight could just not happen or be kept private. I do know two of the members got ****** for something that could've been handled in PM and it just annoys me
A) To see a fight on the board, period
B) To see a long time member get ****** becuase it turned into something so big it couldn't be handled on PM.

But whatever, with the freedom of choice thing that we have, people will always do what they are compelled to do.




And my final punch to the face, time, there isn't enough of it when you need it, and when you don't there is too much of it.
 
A punch to speculation about my recent ban. It was NOT for arguing or fighting - publicly or privately.

Please let it go, folks, and start "punching the face" of our real life woes!!! lol :D

Cheers. :nanner: :hatsoff: :thumbsup:
 
maxell said:
Yeah well sometimes "things need to be said" in the open for everyone else to see!

I am guilty of it myself, I tend to argue on threads more than pm's because I think it's gets cleared up quicker than using like 20 pms!

Also if someone pisses you off, It's better to give them a "public lashing"

Sorry i've gone off topic ... my :2 cents:

I can go along with that, especially the first part of the statement. Arguments, disputes, and personal attacks aside, this forum is intended to be a venue for conducting open discussions that may be of interest to many, even those who elect not to participate, not as merely a PM referral-type agency that functions as a "close the blinds, dim the lights, and leave the bathtub faucet running" kind of vehicle for conspirators.

I mean, if I can't talk behind the back of someone, I may just as well not say anything about them!
 
Prof Voluptuary said:
Is not a leader supposed to inspire his people?
I'm no Chirac fan, but there IS something to be said for patting your citizens on their backs.
You can't be all negative and expect to motivate your people.

If anything, the Carter v. Reagan administrations are very much a study in this.

BTW, I assume there are already a dozen (if not more) people who want to punch me in the face for either my social/scientific posts or my lust for the full-figured, hourglass creature. ;)


All I will type is this. When it comes to French politics; I defer to Georges. He is a bit extreme sometimes. But in my opinion, he knows ALOT about history, both military and political. Far more then most.
And he seems to appreciate discipline. And he seems to be very loyal to politicians he likes or agrees with. And I think he is big on patriotism.
So if he says Chirac sucks at something - I believe him; until I have strong evidence to the contrary.
 
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DrMotorcity said:
I can go along with that, especially the first part of the statement. Arguments, disputes, and personal attacks aside, this forum is intended to be a venue for conducting open discussions that may be of interest to many, even those who elect not to participate, not as merely a PM referral-type agency that functions as a "close the blinds, dim the lights, and leave the bathtub faucet running" kind of vehicle for conspirators.

I mean, if I can't talk behind the back of someone, I may just as well not say anything about them!

I agree with maxell. And especially with the above post from DrMotorcity. Unfortunately, this forum was created to help produce profits for Freeones - I assume. Which is fair enough. But I believe us members wish it was here strictly for our benefit - me being one of them. It is the property of Freeones. And we are merely it's guests.
Even though we are the ones that generate the profits for this site.

But...

Now I am clearly one of the 'worst'; if not the worst over the last 12 months at hyjacking a thread with argueing. It is in my nature. I crave absolute honesty in all things, all the time (funny enough, I used to be almost the opposite). And honesty is not always pretty.
HOWEVER. Most people do not share my opinion. Or at least, not to the extent that I do. Many get uncomfortable watching arguements. I find it fascinating. You want to learn about someone, what they are really like? Catch them with their guard down. And during a heated debate is a great way to catch someone with their guard down.
But again, most people are not like that. And I will try and keep that in mind.

However, I do wish there was a set of rules about in-forum debating.
Like:

No more then 3 posts each (6 total) between two members having a debate/arguement before they must take it to pm (or agree to drop it) IF what they are debating is 'hyjacking' the thread in a noticeable way.

And just to stay on topic on this thread that I think is an excellent one (but with a horrible wording imo 'punch to the face'):

I wish to verbally 'punch' to the face anyone that tries to interupt me when I am openly debating with someone on a thread and it is EXACTLY on the topic of the thread. That means they just don't like watching people argue.
Well, if you do not like it...DON'T READ IT.

And I honestly have no one in mind when I originally thought to type this. And I still do not.
 
President Bush, just for being secretive and deceptive. It is what his whole administration has been about. I don't care what anyone says, he is getting something for letting this transaction with the UAE company go through. Not just letting it go through but being adament about it, that he would veto any legeslation that would block the transaction. For me this whole mess is not about selling management of our ports to the UAE. It is a bit because nothing says they will always be an ally. The thing that pisses me off is Congress wants to look further at the deal. Something like this should have went through Congress already and it is just another testament of the underhanded tricks of this administration that thinks the Constitution is just suggestion and not supreme law of the land. (Personally I think he is getting an island in Dubai for free, it sounds silly but if it turns out to be true I will have to laugh. Of course he would aquire it while he was still in office.)If this were about two hundred years ago, which is not....Thomas Jefferson would have said that it was our duty as American citizens to throw this president out of power because he is no longer serving the interests of American citizens. Of course we have laws against that sort of behavior these days, and rightfully so. I don't care about politicians or policy, I am a constitutional purest and think it should be followed to the letter with room for modern interpretation. Then there is also the president stacking the supreme court to overtrun Roe v Wade, but that is another post.
 
...BBC4 TV.

Tonight is a 'Moon' night...in other words, a night of programmes dedicated to the Moon.
These include a documentary 'The Moon', Patrick Moore's 'Sky at night', Wallace and Grommit 'A grand day out' (the one with the moon/cheese/skiing cooker)and...Capricorn One (Film)

CAPRICORN ONE?!...Isn't that the late 70's movie about a fake space mission and landing on MARS?!...yup!

And the Beeb wonders why we grumble about paying the TV licence...F******g idiots!
 
Being told about my opinions, that; having the opinions just to be contrary.

I may be cut from a different cloth than y'all but my opinions are "contrary" because I'm an individual. I'm sorry I don't state the obvious so that I'm correct in every situation.
 
To the new anti-tobacco ads I keep seeing using some early-teen city girl who's so obviously reading a cue card, stumbling over her words/lines trying to read the card AND to look into the videocamera. Smoking's a deadly, dirty, expensive habit, to be sure. I smoke, and I've cut down drastically. I don't deny that it's a meritless product and incredibly addictive and unhealthy. However...

Here's where my punch goes: in the ad, this *** bitches about how 2nd-hand smoke is going to **** her/give her cancer, etc. while she stands at a bus hub (where buses sit idle and pull through constantly as they pick up passengers and stick to schedule) waiting for her (of course) bus to come. "People smoke and I don't want to breathe their second-hand smoke while I wait. It's polluting the air I breathe. It can give me cancer or **** me. I want clean air," etc.

O.k. Let's keep this in fucking perspective... You're standing at a fucking bus HUB with a dozen or more buses lined up, all running gasoline or diesel combustion engines which POUR out more toxins into the air per minute than a week-long bonfire's-worth of burning cigarettes. You have the nerve to complain about a couple people's 2nd-hand smoke (outdoors, no less) while you're standing there gulping down bus exhaust (much thicker, doesn't blow clear as rapidly as that of cigarettes' smoke) and you expect me to take you seriously?!?!

I don't fucking think so, chicky. Whoever wrote that ad should be shitcanned from their job. What a ridiculous argument!!!

Sure, 2nd-hand cigarette smoke is dangerous in an enclosed space, but for God's sake, this ******* and moaning about 2nd-hand smoke in wide open spaces, especially those where hundreds of cars, buses, and motorcycles are running (e.g. inner cities) by is absolutely asinine.

I feel a bit better having ranted, but I get sooooo pissed off when non-smokers look down their noses at smokers and pretend to cough as they walk by on the sidewalk along a busy street, as 80 cars pass by spewing their fumes and toxins everywhere, and these people look at you with your one lit cigarette as if you're trying to fucking **** them. Ridiculous...

:thefinger :mad: :thefinger :mad:
 
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Nightfly said:
To the new anti-tobacco ads I keep seeing using some early-teen city girl who's so obviously reading a cue card, stumbling over her words/lines trying to read the card AND to look into the videocamera. Smoking's a deadly, dirty, expensive habit, to be sure. I smoke, and I've cut down drastically. I don't deny that it's a meritless product and incredibly addictive and unhealthy. However...

Here's where my punch goes: in the ad, this *** bitches about how 2nd-hand smoke is going to **** her/give her cancer, etc. while she stands at a bus hub (where buses sit idle and pull through constantly as they pick up passengers and stick to schedule) waiting for her (of course) bus to come. "People smoke and I don't want to breathe their second-hand smoke while I wait. It's polluting the air I breathe. It can give me cancer or **** me. I want clean air," etc.

O.k. Let's keep this in fucking perspective... You're standing at a fucking bus HUB with a dozen or more buses lined up, all running gasoline or diesel combustion engines which POUR out more toxins into the air per minute than a week-long bonfire's-worth of burning cigarettes. You have the nerve to complain about a couple people's 2nd-hand smoke (outdoors, no less) while you're standing there gulping down bus exhaust (much thicker, doesn't blow clear as rapidly as that of cigarettes' smoke) and you expect me to take you seriously?!?!

I don't fucking think so, chicky. Whoever wrote that ad should be shitcanned from their job. What a ridiculous argument!!!

Sure, 2nd-hand cigarette smoke is dangerous in an enclosed space, but for God's sake, this ******* and moaning about 2nd-hand smoke in wide open spaces, especially those where hundreds of cars, buses, and motorcycles are running (e.g. inner cities) by is absolutely asinine.

I feel a bit better having ranted, but I get sooooo pissed off when non-smokers look down their noses at smokers and pretend to cough as they walk by on the sidewalk along a busy street, as 80 cars pass by spewing their fumes and toxins everywhere, and these people look at you with your one lit cigarette as if you're trying to fucking **** them. Ridiculous...



Preach it, ******* Nightfly!!! Preach the gospel of the pissed-off smoker!! :bowdown:

I agree 100%; my :2 cents:

My rant:

The neighbors behind us. They've been playing their fucking musical instruments (instruments, not a ****** stereo system) at what seems like full fucking strength for the past hour. And it's fucking OFF-KEY!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :thefinger
 
Nightfly said:
To the new anti-tobacco ads I keep seeing using some early-teen city girl who's so obviously reading a cue card, stumbling over her words/lines trying to read the card AND to look into the videocamera. Smoking's a deadly, dirty, expensive habit, to be sure. I smoke, and I've cut down drastically. I don't deny that it's a meritless product and incredibly addictive and unhealthy. However...

Here's where my punch goes: in the ad, this *** bitches about how 2nd-hand smoke is going to **** her/give her cancer, etc. while she stands at a bus hub (where buses sit idle and pull through constantly as they pick up passengers and stick to schedule) waiting for her (of course) bus to come. "People smoke and I don't want to breathe their second-hand smoke while I wait. It's polluting the air I breathe. It can give me cancer or **** me. I want clean air," etc.

O.k. Let's keep this in fucking perspective... You're standing at a fucking bus HUB with a dozen or more buses lined up, all running gasoline or diesel combustion engines which POUR out more toxins into the air per minute than a week-long bonfire's-worth of burning cigarettes. You have the nerve to complain about a couple people's 2nd-hand smoke (outdoors, no less) while you're standing there gulping down bus exhaust (much thicker, doesn't blow clear as rapidly as that of cigarettes' smoke) and you expect me to take you seriously?!?!

I don't fucking think so, chicky. Whoever wrote that ad should be shitcanned from their job. What a ridiculous argument!!!

Sure, 2nd-hand cigarette smoke is dangerous in an enclosed space, but for God's sake, this ******* and moaning about 2nd-hand smoke in wide open spaces, especially those where hundreds of cars, buses, and motorcycles are running (e.g. inner cities) by is absolutely asinine.

I feel a bit better having ranted, but I get sooooo pissed off when non-smokers look down their noses at smokers and pretend to cough as they walk by on the sidewalk along a busy street, as 80 cars pass by spewing their fumes and toxins everywhere, and these people look at you with your one lit cigarette as if you're trying to fucking **** them. Ridiculous...

:thefinger :mad: :thefinger :mad:


My, oh my, oh, my...
If anyone hasn't figured out by now, I totaly disagree with the above.
What we have here is a sentiment where it is OK to do something as long as there is always something even worse that we can put the blame on.
Nightfly says it's OK to smoke--and too bad for those who do not smoke (of which I am of that demographic) because there is always a worse (as is purported by the "defense") affiction one should be more concerned of.

Buses, heavy trucks, etc., yes we all know of the black fumes they emit into the air--but I would not allow one in my own home, nor have yet to sit next to one in a restaurant or more likely, pass by one as I enter an office building or even a hospital!

Smoking is OK, and tough for the non-smoker (which is a subjective term, since that as long as the SMOKER will dictate the quality of the breatheable air, it looks like we all will be, as determined by the coroner's report, SMOKERS). "Died of lung cancer..." so will go the report, and if found to be prominent enough, may well even be eulogized on a thread in Freeones which will readily be forever forgotten in short notice.

Smoke away, future corpses and conspirators in the mass ****** of infidels (non-smokers, to you).
 
DrMotorCity, I think you missed the crux of the rant - I referred to open-air places full of far more harmful pollutants, yet which are deemed necessary (cars, trucks, buses, etc.), where people choose to live and do business, yet they're seemingly blind to that sort of pollution and condemn people who smoke cigarettes, which pale in comparison pollution-wise, to these other harmful pollutants. I didn't say anything about having a running vehicle inside one's home or in a restaurant - that comparison is absurd.

You cannot smoke cigarettes in virtually any business which is legally called a place of "public accomodation" anymore. So, smokers are made to go outside - not a terrible hassle - and then are crtitiqued for smoking a cigarette outide by people standing next to dozens of running vehicles smogging up the air. Look at Los Angeles. The smog there isn't from smokers. It's from vehicles and factories.

Anyway... :hatsoff: :2 cents:
 
To the (ex) member who left me a charming PM stating "Fuck You ******." - for no reason whatsoever!!

I consider myself a peaceful person, but if that f*cking dumba$$ ever passes through my part of London, let's just say I'll consider grievous bodily harm......
 
I will have to agree with nightfly..I quit smoking for 2 years and walking by people outside smoking never bothered me...however it really gets me going when you move twenty feet from the door and people still make a big deal about it. I just went back to university a couple of years ago and the people that say something about smokers who are not even close to the door of a building really pisses me off. I realize they do not want to walk through it, but I have noticed instead of going around smokers a few steps to avoid them, these avid non smokers walk right through the smoke and bitch about how horrible it is. My punch to the face is to all the nonsmokers I have just described above.
 
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