30 Years Ago Today: Do you believe in miracles?

The Chiefs would have pummeled the Soviet team.
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
I think its hilarious that we went up north and took the gold from canada. Hockey is their sport. "Fuck you, we're taking the gold!!!"
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I think its hilarious that we went up north and took the gold from canada. Hockey is their sport. "Fuck you, we're taking the gold!!!"

Hey, that hasn't happened yet, ok? Give it a few days...
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
That's not exactly true. In the 1976 Super Series, the Red Army tied the Montreal Canadiens 3-3 in what was probably the best game of all time. On top of that, the Red Army was easily manhandled by the Philadelphia Flyers, while the lesser Soviet team (two teams took part in this Series), the Soviet Wings, got beat pretty badly by the Buffalo Sabres.

If you are looking for a good example of how good the Soviet team was, then I suggest mentioning the Summit Series. It was the first time Canada's best - the professionals who weren't allowed to play in the Olympics - faced the Soviets' best. Canada barely managed to win the series after being tossed around like rag dolls infront of home audiences, and only after injuring the Soviets' best player. If Canada's team - the world's best, a team made up of many players who are now considered legends - could barely defeat the Soviets, then really, the Americans stood no chance, especially because the American hockey program wasn't all that serious until after the Miracle.

Great post but one side comment....I watched the Flyers-Red Army team play against each other and it was anything but easy. The Flyers (the old "Broad Street Bullies" team that probably could have taken on a panzer division and come out on top they were so tough) dominated the Russians from a physical standpoint but the play was very competitive. The Russians, although defeated, were not "easily manhandled" by any stretch. The incredible talent level of the Soviet Army team was very evident. In the end, however, the NHL style of play back in the '70s (kill or be killed basically) won out over the finesse style of the Soviets. Case closed.

I do agree about the Summit Series being a much better example of the comparison between the two teams from an overall talent standpoint. If somehow Paul Henderson hadn't managed to play out of his mind in that duel, who knows what could have happened. Regardless, by the time the 1980 Olympics came around, there was little debate about who the consensus choice for the best team going into the games was and it was unquestionably the Soviets. That team had so much talent it was unreal....Maltsev, Kharlamov, Balderis, Fetisov, Tretiak....legendary players who absolutely lived up to their billing. It was a fantastic assemblage of hockey talent and, the incredible and most improbable US victory aside, was perhaps the greatest hockey team talent-wise in the history of the sport. They just happened to get beat by a team that was determined to win no matter what and destined to do so by some higher source than I am able to comprehend.

The "Miracle on Ice" was just that....a miracle. No way did those American college kids belong on the same ice as those Soviet superstars from a talent or experience standpoint. Yet, somehow....miraculously....they managed to defeat them in what I would consider to be not only the greatest sports upset of all time in any sport, but the greatest moment in the international sports history of the United States ever. Nothing else comes close.

Here's to the 1980 US hockey team! Rest in peace, Herb, and let's go get another gold for you just for the hell of it.

:glugglug::thumbsup::glugglug:
 
The irony of that game was that ESPN - the organization that loathes the NHL - rated it the greatest sports moment in history. And yes the Russians defeated the NHL All Stars. Truly amazing.

Hey, that hasn't happened yet, ok? Give it a few days...

We owe you for the '02 defeat in Salt Lake. I'm still pissed off about that one. That American team was steller, and my idol Herb Brooks deserved that gold. Tell me that wasn't one of the baddest rosters EVER:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2002/usbios_menhockey/ :bowdown:
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Refresh my memory, who was the number one goaltender for the US? Was it Richter?

Yeah, why? The link provided is the roster. The thing about that roster - as unbelievably stacked as it was - was they were an aging team. But without question the best American olympic team ever, I think.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Yeah, why? The link provided is the roster. The thing about that roster - as unbelievably stacked as it was - was they were an aging team. But without question the best American olympic team ever, I think.

Just wondering. The roster didn't say which guy was number one; I assumed it was Richter because he was one of the bigger names on that list. Looking at the age of some of these guys, it really it surprising that they did so good.

Course, Canada was argurably even more stacked than the Americans.
 
Just wondering. The roster didn't say which guy was number one; I assumed it was Richter because he was one of the bigger names on that list. Looking at the age of some of these guys, it really it surprising that they did so good.

Course, Canada was argurably even more stacked than the Americans.

Meh. They were getting there but they were'nt ancient. I'd be willing to bet just about every guy on that list was an all star in and around that season. For sure Canada was ferocious. Did they have Gretz' and Lemioux (spelling) on that team?
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Meh. They were getting there but they were'nt ancient. I'd be willing to bet just about every guy on that list was an all star in and around that season. For sure Canada was ferocious. Did they have Gretz' and Lemioux (spelling) on that team?

No, The Great One played in 98 (And if they would have used them in the shootout, we would have beat the Czechs!). He put the team together in 2002. But yeah, Super Mario lead the team, along with Sakic.
 
No, The Great One played in 98 (And if they would have used them in the shootout, we would have beat the Czechs!). He put the team together in 2002. But yeah, Super Mario lead the team, along with Sakic.

And Yzerman. I think Yzerman was the assistant captain. If the Czechs didn't have Hasek no way they would've won that gold. Hasek was unstopable in '98.
 
Besides NASCAR, Monster Trucks, bible thumping, burning crosses and lynching being popular sports in the Bible Belt, is hockey and soccer played in any of the southern states? :D
 
I would think that if God chose to manifest His power to intervene in humanity it would be to cure cancer, or feed the starving or something other than to win a sports game.

What an asshole.
 
Besides NASCAR, Monster Trucks, bible thumping, burning crosses and lynching being popular sports in the Bible Belt, is hockey and soccer played in any of the southern states? :D

Are you serious? The NHL is all over the sun belt. As far as youth hockey I think it is picking up somewhat though. I know the U-17 team has players frmo Texas, California and Oklahoma. That was unheard of not long ago. But it's not a sport for pussies, like basketball. :)
 
Would that game still have as much meaning if Finland won the gold medal final?

is hockey and soccer played in any of the southern states?
Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina have NHL teams
 
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