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bullshit. i can name atleast 4 or 5 centerfielderss were/are better at their position than Lofton.
name them.
bullshit. i can name atleast 4 or 5 centerfielderss were/are better at their position than Lofton.
name them.
i knew those 2 words were coming:1orglaugh in no particular order.
Andruw Jones
Jim Edmonds
Griffey Junior
and right now the best CF has to be Torii Hunter.
correct me if I'm wrong Andruw has been in the league for more than 10 years. You're only coming up with Kenny Lofton because you're an Indians fan. It's the same thing if somebody about the best DH in baseball. I'd be the first to call out David Ortiz. Ken Griffey was on such a higher lever than Lofton defensively and offensively for that matter.you do know that we were talking about the 90's right? thats why kfd said "generation" jones and hunter dont belong. and jim edmonds? give me a break.
correct me if I'm wrong Andruw has been in the league for more than 10 years. You're only coming up with Kenny Lofton because you're an Indians fan. It's the same thing if somebody about the best DH in baseball. I'd be the first to call out David Ortiz. Ken Griffey was on such a higher lever than Lofton defensively and offensively for that matter.
jones was nowhere near lofton in the 90's. congrats, you have officially insulted me and every single baseball fan.
and Lofton was nowhere near Griffey in the 90's!
as a centerfielder he was. not as a hitter. as a centerfielder.
Griffey was the gold standard for centerfielders in the 90's. To even suggest that Kenny Lofton was the better centerfielder is totally insane.
Ok I looked up the gold gloves:
National League Gold Gloves
American League Gold Gloves
Lofton won 4
Griffey 10
By numbers alone, Griffey wins. Pure talent, Griffey wins.
Lofton was great on those Indian teams in the 90's, Griffey was better. Also Griffey was the player of the decade for the AL in the 90's.
Case closed.
not as insane as to mention andruw jones.
do you know why griffey was the gold standard? because he was nice and he hit homeruns. what do most fans want to see? thats right. the homer. this is why he always won the accolades he had. he was more popular. not necessarily the better defender. the truth is they were equals in the field. at the plate? well, thats easy if you want homeruns.
oh now it's about offense.
it was never about offense. thats the only reason griffey is held in higher regard than lofton.
and the 10 gold gloves.
do you know why griffey was the gold standard? because he was nice and he hit homeruns. what do most fans want to see? thats right. the homer. this is why he always won the accolades he had. he was more popular. not necessarily the better defender. the truth is they were equals in the field. at the plate? well, thats easy if you want homeruns.
Nay.
10 gold gloves > 4 gold gloves
Numbers don't lie.
From age 19 on he dominated that field in the king dome. He dove, ran down balls, made amazing play after amazing play. Then he came up every couple of innings and amazed with his power. Popular yes, but still the best at his position.
and who votes for those? hmmm?
without the power, you just said what lofton did.
Clarkie said:Griffey was the gold standard for centerfielders in the 90's. To even suggest that Kenny Lofton was the better centerfielder is totally insane.
why do you think i love him? he hates the media.maybe if Kenny Lofton was "nice" then he might have gotten more. I'm sure the voters looked at tape and said "Well,Mr Lofton doesn't seem like a very nice guy so we'll give more to Griffey Junior"
you guys have gotten me all wrong. look griffey is a haller. lofton? probably not. all around, only bonds could touch griffey. but when it comes to being a centerfielder, lofton was better. for every amazing catch griffey made, lofton did one too. you picking griffey, clarkie, would make me the happiest person in the world.If I needed a leadoff man in the 90's I might take Kenny Lofton. If I was looking for a centerfielder back then I'd take Junior in a heartbeat.