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  1. Rattrap

    Will Obama Close Guantanomo ?

    I think one of my pet peeves is when people read "God" and assume it's the Christian one (not to say anything else of this post, which others have already seen to). Sorry georges, but this shows you really haven't got much idea what actually causes terrorism. Seriously. I recommend some...
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    Tom Brokaw is a moron...

    There's so much to quote and address, but Chef beat me to 'em all (and props to you for it!). He's right. The idea that you "have no choice but to drive" is bullshit. You could live somewhere else. Work somewhere else. You don't want to? That's fine - but that is your choice. Not your lack of...
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    Legal ****** ***** *** to avoid ***** support

    Thanks LBP; couldn't have said it better myself. Also fair to say. It takes two. Anything I might've said about the ******'s responsibility doesn't at all absolve the ******'s. Though I wouldn't buy dishonesty as an excuse on part of the ******; if I have any doubt at all about a woman's...
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    Legal ****** ***** *** to avoid ***** support

    These are all fair points to bring up; I can't say I know much about custody laws (in my state or elsewhere), but I can say from working with ******** that something's not quite right some times. One of the **** I work with now had a horribly abusive ****** who was, according to the ******...
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    Legal ****** ***** *** to avoid ***** support

    I have to agree with Facetious - creating a ***** is and should be the ultimate responsibility. Mistake or no, if you create a *****, the next two decades of your life should be squarely dedicated to making sure it grows up to be a decent human being. Whether you wanted it or not. For the...
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    ******* File Sharing = No Internet Service

    Things are changing, and the RIAA doesn't much like it. Right or wrong, though, they're going to have to adapt. Or, better yet, close down and go away. The internet will soon hopefully do away with the need for the middle man, as artists can simply put their music up on their own sites and have...
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    Little time to curb global warming

    Here's an interesting bit on a Pentagon report from 2003: link.
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    New New York Ipod tax

    For entirely nonessential products, this seems like a good strategy to me as far as taxes go. Though I'm not sure about the clothing under $110 losing tax exempt status...am I reading that right? Cheaper clothing will be taxed? That part seems a little backwards. Anybody silly enough to pay...
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    Wintery storms spread over nation

    There's snow pretty much throughout the northwest; at least from Bellingham, WA to Salem, OR from folks I've talked to. Even some near Sacramento, CA! Even here in Portland, which doesn't happen terribly often (it's also colder than it has been since I can remember).
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    Little time to curb global warming

    Somebody sent this to me...gosh, probably a year ago: video argument. Looks like the fellow saw an error in his own logic though, if you take a gander at the notes in the top-right.
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    Calling in 'gay' to work

    Are they? How so?
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    Calling in 'gay' to work

    The irony of this statement is that is exactly what the the homosexual folk are saying.
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    More People Die Each Month on American Roads than died in 9/11 attacks

    ...if I may give Facial the benefit of the doubt, I think he was simply trying to give the statistics some perspective, fellas. Not to diminish the events of 9/11. It's easier to visualize a number when it has something to compare to (especially one which we're all familiar with).
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    Virginia ******** follows faith, won't sell birth control pills and such...

    Which would be acceptable to me, so long as said health workers are not receiving any state funding (i.e., working in a place that does). I have no problem with folks operating their practices, businesses, or own work ethics how they'd like. I do have a problem with being ****** to pay them to...
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    Down with the American Cars, Up with the Chinese Cars??

    I still vote for not buying a car altogether. :)
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    Test reveals dogs' jealous side

    ...yeah, this is really no surprise. My ****** has had two cats for years that show jealousy constantly. Every time you pet one, the other one glares. I find this odd, not because this isn't newsworthy, but that it hasn't been studied, reported, and archived long ago.
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    Landmark "Cyber Bullying" Trial...

    As someone who works with **** all day...I have to agree with CCT. Parents are too often concerned with things that are NOT their first and foremost priority (or at least should be): their ****. Not their career, not their social lives, status, not what sort of car they have or TV they have...
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    Not completely on topic, but somewhat related and I couldn't find a thread that was better suited for it: Miami judge rules against Florida gay adoption ban Within lies such gems as: ...and, the other side of the coin: Thoughts?
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    Anti Virus Revised question

    Avast! is another option for free, which is what I've used for a year or so. Hasn't let me down yet and is what I generally refer anybody who asks me about this sort of thing to, though I didn't realize AVG had free protection as well.
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    Taxes and you - cultural good taxes

    I think that's a tough call. I live in a state with no sales tax of any kind, though I wish there were one. I'd like to say that you shouldn't tax things like books to encourage more reading, more learning, et cetera...but there are plenty of books that are simply junk for the mind, as are many...
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    The I Told You So Obama Will Fuck Up Thread

    For those who missed, georges and I discussed this in another thread where I threw up nice helping of evidence showing his vilified generation to be actually quite a bit more civil than he'd like to think - he disregarded the evidence. To reply directly, what should we be respecting from our...
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    Has anyone fucked a stripper???

    I dated one for a good year and some, though she wasn't a stripper for the entirety of our relationship - just for the last half or so. She was hotter than hell (breasts that your favorite pornstar would be envious of), and like another poster earlier in the thread was describing his experience...
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    Obama Admin ELECT already talking EO

    And it should be there anyway. D-rock put it pretty succinctly: Emphasis added. I absolutely support gas prices rising. They need to, as people won't make any necessary changes otherwise. True, this means not only does it cost more to drive a car (which, in my mind, is a good thing, as people...
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    And if the 52% voted to reinstate slavery? Would you still see this as okay? It's a much more extreme example, but it's in the same book. No, I'd say she's saying her right to get married means more than the majority's right to oppress. And let's make no mistake about it - California's Prop 8...
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    Contrary to popular belief, Obama hasn't taken away any of your basic rights.
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    I'm not sure there's much more to go over, though I must say this has been an enjoyable discourse (if only all the Obama/McCain arguments were so civil!), but I do have one last question: Just what do you mean?
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    I'll buy this one - that it may make one more inclined. I just don't see that as a bad thing (more gay couples mean less ********!). Sorry for not being clearer - I was referring to the cat example, not the ****** example. I'm not sure you can quite compare attributes to actions. Actions...
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    Agreed. Agreed. I've actually heard this one before, and while it may provide a reason, it isn't a good one - it's still baseless discrimination (why not take away the tax breaks for Hetero couples and give them instead to gay couples? There's more of them, so the government would make more!)...
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    California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

    This is simply bigotry, if of any seriousness. You would think, wouldn't you? I was in shock and awe when Oregon ****** our version, Measure 36. I simply couldn't believe that my neighbors, fellow Oregonians, could be so simply...wrong. Well, the majority of those voting, anyway. It was...
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    Bogus Republican Flyer in Virginia

    What politician doesn't?
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    Do you really think it matters who you vote for?

    The irony here is that 9/11 was their way of telling us not to fuck with them. This isn't isn't necessarily directed to you, CCT, but to all who continuously throw out the idea that there are terrorists out there who, no matter what we do, are out to get us, therefore we can't be at all lax in...
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    Liberal vs. Conservative

    Not sure this is quite on the topic, but close enough. Another amusing e-mail in my inbox today; I'd be curious to know what the accuracy is of the numbers, but I don't have the time to look into it.
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    Do you really think it matters who you vote for?

    You know, for all this "they're both the same" rhetoric (which don't get me wrong, I'll bet it's largely true - something we can never know, of course, as only one will be elected, but...), there is one area which there seems to be a clear distinction: whom is nominated to the Supreme Court...
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    Mccain Voted With Bush 90% of the Time!

    Even if he was born in Africa as opposed to Hawaii - isn't he an automatic citizen anyway through his ******? That would make this whole thing rather moot. McCain wasn't born in the US. :dunno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen
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    My impossible question, an egg has 70,000 regular calories? We measure in kilocals?

    Re: My impossible question, an egg has 70,000 regular calories? We measure in kilocal ...what am I, chopped liver? :rolleyes:
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    My impossible question, an egg has 70,000 regular calories? We measure in kilocals?

    Re: My impossible question, an egg has 70,000 regular calories? We measure in kilocal This is part of the confusion I was just talking about: eggs (like the pack I just checked in my fridge) have 70 Calories, which is equal to 70000 calories. Two different measurements separated only by a...
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    My impossible question, an egg has 70,000 regular calories? We measure in kilocals?

    Re: My impossible question, an egg has 70,000 regular calories? We measure in kilocal Heh heh. This is a another result of our wacky measuring system...in the US, you'll see food labeled in Calories - which is different from calories (yeah, huh?). Calories are the same as kilocalories, as...
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    Election 2008

    A couple of things arrived in my inbox the other day. The first one's hilarious - if you haven't seen it yet, you should. It's John McCain cracking a bunch jokes at a memorial dinner: McCain at Al Smith Memorial Dinner. The second is something I do not endorse (one way or the other), but...
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    Virginia ******** follows faith, won't sell birth control pills and such...

    As...misdirected as I might think this ********'s policy is, it is their business. If folks like ourselves don't agree, we certainly don't have to go there - the fact of the matter being, though, is that they'll likely have more than enough people totally gung-ho about their policy to make...
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    Have You Ever Personally Seen A House/Apartment Fire?...

    Wasn't anything special or particularly exciting. Just watched a place go up while I was waiting for a bus. :dunno:
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    Do you like sex in the shower?

    That's my only complaint about shower sex: I always feel bad about the water I'm wasting. ...not enough to not do it! But it's annoyingly there all the same. Stupid conscience.
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    Election 2008

    Here's an interesting website that a buddy of mine just sent me. Doesn't seem terribly scientific, but good for some discussion: http://iftheworldcouldvote.com/ One certainly has to wonder about the results for the US, though.
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    perfect example of merdia bias

    While it may not relate directly to the actual topic of discussion (of that particular story, at least), a good book on media bias is Bias by Bernard Goldberg - somebody else mentioned it in another thread just recently (which is why I picked it up!). Just finished reading it, actually. An...
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    Election 2008

    Oh, I'm well aware. Just wanted to check if it was entirely useless to throw my vote that way anyway. I've got a list of candidates I'm definitely not voting for, but I'm still undecided as to who I am voting for. That said, some conversation about the VP debate that isn't in a Palin thread: I...
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    Election 2008

    Just out of curiosity...does anyone know the rules with write-in candidates? Ron Paul, for example...is he still a 'candidate'? If not, could he still win with enough write-in votes? And in that case, could someone hypothetically be elected if they were never running to begin with?
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    £1,000,000 goes for £78,000.

    Have any of you ever checked in on the larger denomination bills of the U.S.? They're mildly interesting, if not really relevant: the $10,000 bill (and others).
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    Should 16 Year Olds Be Allowed To Drive?...

    While I agree on the fundamental there, this is something that is potentially (and frequently) lethal to others. Even if we take ******* out of the equation. I think it's actually a huge difference. Those are some big growing years (think: in the thick of high school, or soon/just graduated -...
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    Sarah Palin

    I haven't read this thread (as there are too many of them, and the original Election 2008 thread seems to have disappeared), but here's one good reason why I'd stay far, far away from Palin: story here. Not for me, thanks.
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    Abortion opinions

    Not to say I agree, but to understand why people want to legislate such a thing is pretty simple: It's the second point that I feel is to be hotly debated. I quite disagree with the notion that a fertilized egg constitutes human life. It constitutes a couple of cells. Cells die constantly, all...
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    Abortion opinions

    With all this Palin business stirring up abortion discussions in dozens of different threads, I thought it might be better to simply dig up an old thread on the discussion and center it here. If nothing else, here's a thought of discussion: anyone hear of the theory (I forget the title of the...
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