True AMATEUR girls who have sex in PARTYHARDCORE !?
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she dont looks like her at all
Exactly, couldn't agree more. If the cost is the problem, scale back the number of people and make things more intimate. Shake things up by doing some parties as more of an 'audience' thing perhaps where the other women actually watch the action rather than chat away or ignore what is happening. Try and get more real amateurs for the parties and make things more fun for them. Perhaps shorten things so that no one is so bored and things get more lively - then you also won't have updates stretching to 5 or 6 weeks. Change the strippers! Seriously, some are terrible these days.
They should be trying to regain the fun and excitement and unpredictability of the old PH - that is obviously what the fans want.
First thing they should do is to get rid of all gay strippers, and that's majority of them. Actually i am only sure that Sensi and maybe one or two other strippers are not gay.
I have nothing against gay people, but this is heterosexual site and they should go to film for a gay porn sites.
I mean, look at them, they don't care about girls, they are faking, they just want to be close to each other.
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I have nothing against gay people, but this is heterosexual site and they should go to film for a gay porn sites.
I mean, look at them, they don't care about girls, they are faking, they just want to be close to each other.
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Bisexual you mean... and Sensi isn't.
I've been say and thinking this for awhile. The strippers are super fucking gay, even if they may be bi. This also leads to things like an amateur that seems to be enjoying attention and maybe will go further stopping when another stripper or two show up to paw (seriously do they think a random dude shoving his hands down a girls pants from behind and a camera shoved in her face is going to get things moving in the right direction) at her. The guys now have zero game or even interest in game.
Dennis Reed (stripper from 08 to 14ish) who does gay for pay (and who knows may be pretty bi) used to do awesome at getting PH amateurs, because he and the other strippers at that time actually seemed to like the idea of fucking girls, strippers now just want to admire each other, it's bullshit.
I'm wondering if they are going to try to milk this party for 7 updates (DSO did like 8 last time, WTF), that or it just really sucks for participation. It's beating a dead ***** but if they want to continue PH they need to move out of the DSO backroom and back to a bar and get Ales from czechcasting back. I think most of us would be happier with multi-cam old parties, cheaper for them too. Won't happen, even back in the day Tainster / Euromaxx specialized in being disappointing, it's like enjoy trolling their customers or something.
Any news about this girl?
lol that sounds about right
thanks
yeah i find it weird that they arent releasing more multi cam stuff for ph like they did for dso. especially for the old stuff that just has almost zero costs to release additional content. although i do agree that incompetence is rampant here, i think a big reason is that ph has always been more fake than they have let on and the releases are edited for that perception. a weird thing i have noticed is the camera always turns away or cuts away abruptly when strippers are making a move or negotiating. in things like czech swingers you also get pros but you also get amateurs that are getting paid. i dont have a problem watching a stripper get rejected yet somehow the editors think its a bad thing. its not preferable but i also dont mind the idea of seeing an amateur decide to blow a stripper for a few bucks
on one hand i feel like the website must know what their audience wants and theres a fanbase within that fanbase here that doesnt represent the majority off subscribers (DSO crossover). its seems ridiculous for the content to move further and further from the theme but that is what has been happening steadily for years. its not by accident. they have made a choice. they may be right (financially) or they may be wrong but it just seems weird to have PH and DSO under the same umbrella and then turn ph in to a terrible version of dso. i highly doubt theres many subscribers wondering if the girls with fake tits and shitty tattoos getting plowed by every stripper while the camera is buried in their crotch is an amateur. you would have to be an actual virgin to think girls in night clubs are going to let guys with 10 inch cocks take turns on them and then smile while they blast a load on their face which is lit up by the spotlight and camera 1 foot away.
none of this makes sense to me. if dso content is what sells then bring in more plants and make good nightclub orgy content, you dont even have to change the name or marketing, just bring in more plants and improve the content. if the amateur aspect is viable then make some changes because this is getting worse and worse. its been worthless for 3+ years and the content is getting worse. you would think they could improve the parties with more experience not watch them tank.
my frustration is i think everyone is losing in the current situation. ph is losing out on money by doing such a poor job with these parties and customers or potential customers arent getting what they want either. seems like everyone would benefit if they got things closer to the way they used to be
for a long time I have felt that they stopped trying, the moment it became Tainster it was awful. customer service stopped responding, they took my money but shut me out for a month. only when I cancelled did they get in touch. they have consistently said they will upload old parties and have not, the only ones they did upload they tried to pass off as new??? like we wouldn't know. There are so many good parties that never made the DVDs I remember when it used to be on average every third party was a DVD so there is a massive back catalogue. The problem is we live an era of greed. people don't care anymore about others , as long as I'm ok fuck the rest. This mentality can be seen just by going to the local shop. The sad thing is we can sit on this board and bitch and moan, hell we can even email them direct but at the end of the day the don't give a fuck. eventually they will drive the company into the ground because they took the laziest option out there with the minimum amout of effort, all the good strippers left, that blonde guy Denis, hell even erik with his standard ill fuck you and pretend I'm running move was better. it is indeed sad times for the PH fan.
Of the older parties, PH Vol. 46 is quite good. What makes it so is that many girls get involved. In one 5-minute period there was at least five or six girls fucking.
You can't be sure who is a plant or amateur because most girls only fuck about two times. So, I'd probably prefer that plants are identified by a left-hand wristband like PH do currently.
Anyway, the cute and sexy girl shown below might be an amateur because she is reluctant to undress in the pre-show games and disappears after fucking.
You can't be sure who is a plant or amateur because most girls only fuck about two times. So, I'd probably prefer that plants are identified by a left-hand wristband like PH do currently.
Anyway, the cute and sexy girl shown below might be an amateur because she is reluctant to undress in the pre-show games and disappears after fucking.
So true, lolz
why tainster ruining a successful site ?
Just checked, Vol. 30 videos available in HD, but Vol. 29 and earlier are not.
Tainster is likely working backwards through their catalogue in terms of remastering etc, but considering how slow they are, who knows when they will complete it.
The only reasons I can think of for Tainster ruining PH is;
- they think that DSO is a reasonable subsitute; that is, that viewers are interested in the large party setting. Tainster don't get that it is the amateurs that are the attraction, not necessarily the party setting.
- DSO has porn stars, which allows Tainster to market other dvd's that these women star in. Additionally, viewers who like those stars might be attracted to watching DSO, or so Tainster hope.
Nonetheless, current DSO is as boring as watching grass grow, and slightly better than watching paint dry.
The early years of DSO are, however, worth watching as they appear to include amateurs; there are several instances of girls seeming to be there to party but eventually fucking towards the end of the party.
So, there are some things in the early DSO parties (like the setting, games, structure) that could be used in a PH revamp to improve it.
I wonder why there are not more sites that make this type of porn (party / stripper etc). Both party Hardcore and Dancing Bear have been going for years (through various iterations although DB seems to have ground to a halt) so there is obviously a market out there and the fans seem consistent in what they like - generally the early, more amateur versions. The main ingredients seem to be:
- some kind of 'party' setting where you can at least imagine that the women might get carried away in the moment
- a fun 'anything goes' atmosphere
- the mystery of which women might get involved - who is an amateur? etc
- the reactions of both the women involved and the 'audience' to what is happening
- strippers / guys that can create a sense of fun and ease and perform
Sure, getting all of these is probably hard and no doubt the cost of these shoots is expensive, but if so why not just concentrate on a few easier parts (the 'amateur' aspect for instance, which must be cheaper to cast and most women are going to be there doing very little which can't be too expensive.)
Like people have said, it seems like no one really cares enough to make these kind of films in a way that pleases the fans. But I think this is a bigger problem in porn in general. There is no thought of the consumer and a complete lack of creativity.
- some kind of 'party' setting where you can at least imagine that the women might get carried away in the moment
- a fun 'anything goes' atmosphere
- the mystery of which women might get involved - who is an amateur? etc
- the reactions of both the women involved and the 'audience' to what is happening
- strippers / guys that can create a sense of fun and ease and perform
Sure, getting all of these is probably hard and no doubt the cost of these shoots is expensive, but if so why not just concentrate on a few easier parts (the 'amateur' aspect for instance, which must be cheaper to cast and most women are going to be there doing very little which can't be too expensive.)
Like people have said, it seems like no one really cares enough to make these kind of films in a way that pleases the fans. But I think this is a bigger problem in porn in general. There is no thought of the consumer and a complete lack of creativity.
The issue is getting talent. "Amateurs" aren't as willing to be a part of something like this the way they used to be. And its web forums like this that have caused that decline. At one time, a girl could secretly appear in a porno and no one ever knew. Today, anyone appearing in anything is likely to be discovered... especially when you have forums like this where guys are obsessed at identifying performers then broadcasting that information all over the net where it goes viral. Take the Girls Do Porn series as an example. With the real identities of girls being ****** and lives/reputations being ruined, girls are not as naive to believe that there is no harm in doing a porno.
I agree that with the rise of the internet and especially social media 'amateurs/regulalr girls' will be more reluctant to appear in pornos, including these party movies. Dancingbear is a good example of having some amateurs in their early years (2008/9) when social media wasn't as big. But as the years have gone by the audience are all pros pretending to be amateurs. Loverboysuk was before social media, and all the girls were amateurs. But there is no way that loverboys would work now. I don't think we will ever see any new party websites with regular girls getting involved.
Partyhardcore is the only site that still does this type of stuff. Each episode they manage to bring many amateurs. These are regular girls who have normal jobs or are students, and still use fb/instagram etc (some of them are mutual friends). I've always wondered why these regular girls attend these parties knowing fully well that they could end up having sex and get caught by ******/boyfriends/employees.
Is it because they are very open regarding sex and porn in Prague? And no-one cares if you attend these parties?
I've heard that tainster don't actually release their videos in Czech Rep, but they only release it in other countries. Is this true? If that's the case then I can understand why girls will attend as they are unlikely to get caught.
As partyhardcore are the only site remaining that do this type off porn, I do hope they continue releasing videos. But obviously they need to work on improving the actual content of their parties as its been **** for a number of years now.
The girls are getting paid for attending the party, the amount depends on how far are they willing to go. They are split on girls who are just for the crowd, and girls who MIGHT do something, then there are hired pros who are there to make sure that some action occurs.
Everything is properly stated in contracts they sign. Also there is a lot going on behind the scenes when it comes to protecting privacy of girls, last year I had a nice chat about that with tainster employee. I wanted to buy an unedited PH material, the person with whom I spoke informed me that they do not sell unedited PH material, when I asked why? She told me that it is to protect the girls who attend parties, some of them get second thoughts and asks tainster to not put them in the official releases. And apparently tainster is honouring such requests, probably one of reasons why they don't have problems with finding amateurs willing to attend parties.
