I guess the Pope is Catholic after all..

[Jack Davenport]

Met privately with Kim Davis

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rancis-reportedly-had-a-private-meeting-in-dc

Played Obama like a fiddle while he was here.

 

[xfire]

Republicans are the ones currently engaged in a War On The Pope, not real sure how you get that he "played" Obama, the Catholic Church has it's own agenda and it's not like Obama isn't aware of it.

 

[Jack Davenport]

He spoke about the sanctity of life and met with a woman that is opposed to the number one social issue on his agenda. Pretty much giving him the Papal raspberry after Obama kissed his ring . Obama is being made a fool of by quite a few people lately. He had a good summer but autumn is starting off poorly for him from the Pope to Putin to a14 year old clockmaker.

 

[mongo18]

Hahaha, yes, the treason party is falling apart around you and America just keeps racking up victories against people like you, but you just keep telling yourself that things are going great for your fascist fantasy.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Hahaha, yes, the treason party is falling apart around you and America just keeps racking up victories against people like you, but you just keep telling yourself that things are going great for your fascist fantasy.

You really should be ******. You contribute nothing to a discussion but left-wing kookdom and you are insulting to anyone you disagree with. I have made about as many attempts to be cordial to you as I intend to but no longer. Talk to yourself or those that agree with you from now on. Gonna follow Ace's lead and put you on ignore. Congratulations your are my first iggy, should have done it a long time ago.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Doesn't it feel great when you can do something like that? Of course you did quote him and now I have to read his stupidity vicariously through you and now I'll probably have to add you to my list.

And yes, the Pope is Catholic.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Well, I **** that but I will consider myself collateral damage.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Who gives a ****

 

[mongo18]

The Vatican has denied pretty much all of Davis' claims, she was one of SEVERAL DOZEN people who the pope saw who were INVITED BY THE NUNCIATURE, she was given no special audience at all by the Pope. On top of that, the pope actually did have a private meeting with a gay couple the day before, and those guys did manage to get a photo!

http://reverbpress.com/discovery/sp...t-lie-sex-couple-actually-got-secret-meeting/

It's lucky BC has me on ignore, or he'd have to come in with one of his devastating counter attacks like "Congratulations, you just proved my point!"

I wonder who was getting played like a fiddle, and by whom?

 

[Jagger69]

The pope also met with a gay couple while in the US so what kind of political statement or endorsement does that make? None is the answer. Likewise with Kim Davis (whose 15 minutes ought to be just about up in my estimation ). Much ado about absolutely nothing. It's a sad commentary when people with predisposed notions seek sources that only provide validation of their biases as opposed to attempting to seek the truth. I respect everyone's opinion unless they refuse to consider the possibility that they just might be wrong should the facts indicate otherwise. We have a lot of those people here on this forum, unfortunately. What we don't have is a lot of people who are willing to consider the opposing viewpoint as having at least some degree of validity.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Some of us with predisposed notions have them validated constantly by the events of the world around us. We have a weak president and the world is blowing up because of his foreign policy. Did he inherit a couple of wars? Yes..do you end the wars just because you want them to end without considering the vacuum that it would create? I think the answer now is no. You are old enough to remember what a weak foreign policy creates as you have seen it before, Russia and China are always going to be aggressive if they perceive weakness. It's happening again and the result for liberals is we are going to more than likely end up with another hawk as president. As for the Pope, he is a figurehead. The people at the Vatican that make the decisions are also making the public statements. They chose him. They own him and he is their puppet. Obviously Pope Benedict wouldn't toe the line and he conveniently was sent out to pasture.

 

[mongo18]

Some of us with predisposed notions have them validated constantly by the events of the world around us.

Self fulfilling prophecy anyone? Did you even read that absurd sentence as you typed it?

We have a weak president and the world is blowing up because of his foreign policy. Did he inherit a couple of wars? Yes..do you end the wars just because you want them to end without considering the vacuum that it would create? I think the answer now is no. You are old enough to remember what a weak foreign policy creates as you have seen it before, Russia and China are always going to be aggressive if they perceive weakness. It's happening again and the result for liberals is we are going to more than likely end up with another hawk as president. As for the Pope, he is a figurehead. The people at the Vatican that make the decisions are also making the public statements. They chose him. They own him and he is their puppet. Obviously Pope Benedict wouldn't toe the line and he conveniently was sent out to pasture.

If indeed the USA is seen as weak by other countries, I'm sure it has nothing to do with very public and very consistent efforts from the right to obstruct and undermine the US president for the last 7 years. The best friends America's enemies have call themselves republicans. And pope F was a pretty great guy in the OP, now he's just an empty puppet? Pick a line and stay with it.

 

[Jack Davenport]

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[mongo18]

Well that's childish. Are we in third grade now? It's not like I ever made any progress talking to you anyway, I've had better luck teaching calculus to my neighbor's dog than arguing facts with republicans. The people who baffle me are the ones who are still on the fence, who think that both sides are the same. They are either not paying attention at all, or are willfully ignorant.

Anyway, I'll just leave these here, for context.

You sir are the bottom feeder of liberals. There are no ethics about you. It is all political with you even in the face of overwhelming evidence that PP are a corrupt organization using ******* as incubators until their product is cooked enough for harvesting. You are nothing but a starry eyed drone, follow the leader type asswipe. You also exhibit characteristics of the weak minded. Your type I have seen before, after getting pounded long enough they usually break out into tears, I get paid handsomely to break down pussies like you. You epitomize the liberal mindset, and are living proof that liberalism is not a mental disorder but a full on detachment from reality.

You really should be ******. You contribute nothing to a discussion but left-wing kookdom and you are insulting to anyone you disagree with. I have made about as many attempts to be cordial to you as I intend to but no longer.

 

[mongo18]

I respect everyone's opinion unless they refuse to consider the possibility that they just might be wrong should the facts indicate otherwise. We have a lot of those people here on this forum, unfortunately. What we don't have is a lot of people who are willing to consider the opposing viewpoint as having at least some degree of validity.

I gave up on that right around the time the republican party committed themselves to opposing the president no matter what, and they've just been going downhill ever since. The democrats are far from perfect, but at least they try to help improve the situation for the average American, Republicans haven't done anything that's in the interests of the middle class or, god forbid, those struggling to get by. Their biggest initiative by far in the last 5 years has been to repeal a system that has provided affordable healthcare to 10s of millions Americans for the first time ever, with no alternative to keep those people covered. Second biggest, investigation after investigation into finding ways to blame Hillary for Benghazi. We all knew they were fraudulent, now we have proof. Reign the EPA, abolish minimum wage, dismantle social security and medicare, defund planned parenthood, cut food stamps, give more tax breaks to corporations, oppose gay marriage, the list goes on. Everything that is good for Americans, they oppose, and everything they support is terrible for Americans.

I didn't grow up Democrat, and I'm not just a partisan mouthpiece. When I moved here from Australia 10 years ago I assumed that I would be a republican, because at home I am conservative. But after observing the right in this country, especially after Obama became president, I have seen that there is no validity to their viewpoints. They don't compromise, they outright ignore any fact that doesn't suit them, and they are absolutely doing damage to this country that is going to take a very long time to undo. I don't know how anyone can look at both parties and judge them equal. It's not even my country, in fact, I'll be out of here soon enough for Xmas in Australia and will likely never set foot here again, but listening to republicans talk makes my ***** boil. Maybe natives are used to it because it's always been that way, but I don't understand how the left isn't pushing for civil war to save what's left of this country from these psychopaths.

 

[Johan]

The Catholic Church isn't on the Liberal side, the democratic side, the conervative side or the republican side. They are independant. On some issues they agree with democrats and liberal, on others they agree with republicans and conservatives.

It may be written in the Bible that abortion = ****** and that homosexuality = abomination but it's also written about the poors that the kingdom of god is theirs and about the riches that it will be harder for them ot enter the kingdom of God than for a camel to go throught the hone of a needle.

 

[Supafly]

Let's see how Francis handles what happens at home in Rome

Vatican Sacks Gay Priest Who Came Out, Urged Change in Church Policy

Vatican says decision has nothing to do with Polish theologian's personal life, but rather from his choice come out in interview.

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read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.678671

 

[blakey]

It may be written in the Bible that abortion = ****** ...

its not even in there really - there's a bit where it says if you think your wife cheated on you you can give her some poison, and if she had been unfaithful there would be no more baby, but if she hadn't cheated then baby would be ok

and as for homosexuality being an abomination in the bible, then so is eating shrimp, wearing clothes of different types of cloth etc

but i don't see conservative christians protesting outside lobster shack, or threatening to **** people who eat or sell shrimp

its almost like they pick and choose what to believe from the bible, especially the old testament, and use that as a justification to **** and judge people

 

[sean miguel]

its not even in there really - there's a bit where it says if you think your wife cheated on you you can give her some poison, and if she had been unfaithful there would be no more baby, but if she hadn't cheated then baby would be ok

It wasn't actually poison but a curse. But regardless, bitch be better tellin' da troof.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

The Pope is a god damn American Treasure!