China will become the world leader...
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Fuck China! We as Americans should be ashamed that we support a slave state such as they are. Hope the acid rain poisons them all.
Thank you for your...humane comment.
I think that it is better be a friend of China even though they are quite backward in certain matters.
The Chinese people hold their fates in their own hands if they like being slaves that's their problem. They are poisoning themselves I am but a humble observer to their gross stupidity.
Sam Fisher
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Nice to see all the "greenies" in this country and around the world sitting and doing nothing? How come they aren't staging massive demonstrations against China for their lack of environmentalism?
Ohh... but Bloomberg uses his POWER to ban all Styrofoam. Good job there, the planet is saved now. Whew!
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Ohh... but Bloomberg uses his POWER to ban all Styrofoam. Good job there, the planet is saved now. Whew!
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Rattrap
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The problem is - and this is the kicker - is that they're poisoning us as well.
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2010/12/01/california-pollution-made-in-china/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57341838/pollution-from-china-alters-weather-in-u.s-west/
I would love to see a response along the lines of "Dear China, we've noticed your subtle chemical ****** and..." but then, I'd also like to win the lottery.
Very good point.
vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Tough for me to trend that one out. 100 years is not that long in the big picture. I'd be very interested in your thoughts on this.
100 years ago, the USA had the largest economy. China had the second largest economy.
bobjustbob
Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Africa? They eat tiger there. Find 2 of those nations to agree on anything. It is too backwards and corrupt to see any economic growth for decades. Zulu warlords will forever control that continent.
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vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
The trend is clear to me; a poor country rapidly industrialises and thereby becomes a superpower.
Rome used to play second fiddle to Greece. She came to shape the Western world. america's senate today shares teh same name as teh Roman senate of old. Russia counts herself as the 3rd Holy Roman Empire.
From Russian Czars to Arabic Shahs, a myriad of title for leader originate from the title of Caesar.
France used to be Gaul. A mere province of the Roman Empire.
her empire came to be so great that it spawned the phrase "lingua franca"
america was a province of the British Empire.
Russia was always an empire. She was also always backwards. Despite the onslaughts of the Mongols, Napoleon and then Hitler she survived. She went from being a backwards little country to the Soviet Empire, covering a great span of the world. She was the first country in space.
China was an empire. She locked herself away and consequently declined until the British sailed gunships up the Yangtze (ws it the Yang Tze? I swear, my memory... I fear I'm ageing) and ****** them to buy Opium (gangsta much?!)
Now china grows into an empire. Soon we shall decline.
The pattern is clear; Empires grow and then decline faster and faster as the world shrinks. Empires grow from the poorest areas as they rapidly industrialise.
At some point some African nations will club together in common cause and become the new superpower (china, busily developing in Africa has been exported ideology and culture there. This may be used as a model).
God help us all if the African superpower to come is united in the cause of an Extremist Islamic Calif. It's possible, but very, VERY bad news.
England used to be the poor man of Europe. She came to rule the world.
They eat tiger in china too. What's your point?
china also has a history of warlords; the Russkis say that it's the chinese that taught the Afghans their guerilla style of warfare.
bobjustbob
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A united Africa becoming a world superpower. Never ever, EVER. going to happen. The entire industrialized world has pumped quad trillions of dollars over the entire continent looking for a place to start getting them out of the bush. It's useless. They don't even feed or vaccinate their people with the money we send them less start an economy. Africa has a wealth of natural resources there ready for their development but those nations can't even settle their own boarders. It's a cesspool of infighting and corruption with no foreseeable end.
vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Doesn't have to be the whole of Africa.
Could be one really strong state. Could be a couple working together.
Of course it's useless; we throw millions in so they can buy weapons, we do it on credit, so they're in debt. The only reason money was given to Africa was so that more could be extracted in payments.
Europe used to be a cesspool of infighting and corruption with no foreseeable end. She appears to be on her way to that state once more.
This is just a theory, so please, I welcome your critiscism.
The estimated value Democratic Republic of Congo's mineral deposits is atleast $24 Trillion. But the DRC's government is one of the most corrupt in the world. The West should cut all foreign to it, unless they let us see where the money is going. Most of the DRC government expenditures come from foregin aid, so the west has a strong hand. The West should help DRC become a stable democracy, so it can become the linchpin economy of Africa. Grand Inga Dam project needs the go ahead. The international community needs help the big (pop.) African countries first like Nigeria, Ethiopia, Egypt, and DRC first, so that they can drive the rest of the African economies. Yearly foreign direct investment is already well above foreign aid, so its not a hopeless situation.
I see. Well, that would be an amusing discussion after a few cocktails. For a short while.
I detect Anglophile. Not a bad thing. I'm a bit more of an Anglophile than my Irish grandparents would probably care for.
I was looking for some economic trending or insights. My mistake on where you were heading with the discussion.
You did leave one rags to riches superpower out of the mix. There are others, but the one I'm thinking of may be painfully obvious and intentionally omitted.
Did you not?
vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
We should cut aid, but we won't; for as long as the corrupt leaders continue to rack up debts, we can keep getting payments. If we got all the money owed back, then we'd miss future payments. better for us to keep the whole country in debt. Who cares if they're dirt poor?
Anglophile? Well, I was born in and grew up in England...
I'm fully aware of how ridiculous the conclusion seems today, but that's my theory and I like to think that the reasoning isn't totally unsound.
Thought I mentioned the usa? Please, enlighten me.
bobjustbob
Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
When you hand money over to someone to help with their problems you expect to see some of their problems resolved. If I give you money for food then I expect to see food in your fridge. If you need money to keep your lights on then I should see lights on in your house. Don't drive up to my place looking for food and light money because you spent it on fixing your car or had to pay a fine. It's the same with this African aid. Feed the hungry ********. Nice cause but how many people get fed? You give $100. $20 goes to administrative fees. $40 goes to government protection from the rebels fighting them in the mountains. $15 to build roads needed to get to the people. Another $25 for transportation of the food. When is all said and done people still aren't getting fed. As heart breaking as it may be, it comes to a point where enough is enough. As an individual you just chuck it up as a loss and move on. As a nation it's like,"Hey Mr President, what the fuck is going on here? A billion from me, a billion from him, a billion from 14 other nations. Why aren't your people being fed?" Multiply that times 26 other African nations and what do we have? A money dump. Still after 35 years, the world is made to feel guilty for starving Africans.
Who pulls out first? USA be the bad guy? Russia and let the Chinese buy it all up? How much more should the EU pump in? We all abandon and let the oil rich middle east take over the continent? Sure there are interests now. The world has sunk trillions of dollars in there.
Who pulls out first? USA be the bad guy? Russia and let the Chinese buy it all up? How much more should the EU pump in? We all abandon and let the oil rich middle east take over the continent? Sure there are interests now. The world has sunk trillions of dollars in there.
You're right, you did mention the USA and that was what I meant. Please forgive my aging eyes for missing it in your block of text.
I'm not ridiculing your theory. I'm actually interested and my only point was that I was looking for some sort of trending. That isn't where you were heading and I'm fine with that as a discussion.
Tough for me to get behind, but interesting theory.
Not a bad way to sum it up. Need to have them take care of the first couple of teirs of Maslow's hierarchy on their own before they can move on.
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