do you believe 911 was an inside job

[lurkingdirk]

I find it strange how WTC7WasPulled has been silent since real debate has been invited. Should we post a few youtube videos of no worth to make him feel comfortable to enter this thread again?

 

[Master Roshi]

yup, the official story just doesn't make sense once you take a detailed look into this tragedy and start to put the puzzle pieces back together one at a time

 

[shimmy2]

eh well. who's going to vegas this week?

 

[Facetious]

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A ******** is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.''

-Marcus Cillious Cicero


Ok, now that that is cleared up . . . :dustsoffhands:


If the events leading up to September 11, 2001 was in fact an inside job, I would have to say that the Clintongs set it up. . .
Destroy the private sector Airlines, Destroy the institution of capitalism (The Trade Centers),
Destroy the Military (The Pentagon) (''I loath the military'' - William Jefferson Clintong) . . . but don't destroy them while Bubba is in office, do in when bush, the redneck cowboy from Texas is in office! . . . and the rest is history.

Heck, Bubba didn't even visit the site of the failed 1993 World Trade Center takedown!




September 11, 2001 has marked the beginning of a new left wing American revolution.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

This is an absolutely brilliant film! It was the film that first "woke me up" when it came to 9/11. This is the whole film. Watch it. If anyone still thinks it was fire that brought down the towers, prepare for an awakening. WATCH the WHOLE THING then please comment. I want specific areas of the film, as in minute marks in the film that you disagree with if there is anyone who disagrees. I want to discuss any aspect with anyone.

 

[Shifty]

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Brute ***** FTL! :dunno:

 

[lurkingdirk]

I shall repeat my question: What evidence, other than, "watch this video" (which was produced by someone else, researched by someone else, and you have no idea how factually correct it is, actually) do you have?

See that? I'm not diminishing the discussion about September (when did a month turn into 9?) 11. I'm asking you to actually have a discussion rather than simply post videos and copy and paste something you read on a conspiracy theory website.

This is an absolutely brilliant film! It was the film that first "woke me up" when it came to 9/11. This is the whole film. Watch it. If anyone still thinks it was fire that brought down the towers, prepare for an awakening. WATCH the WHOLE THING then please comment. I want specific areas of the film, as in minute marks in the film that you disagree with if there is anyone who disagrees. I want to discuss any aspect with anyone.

Please allow me to restate my question.

Could you please sum up, in your own words, without using youtube videos or copy and pasting from some website you've found, what you believe the salient points are? Citing credible sources with provable conclusions, could you please show us how you come to the conclusion that September 11 was an inside job?

No more videos, no more regurgitating. Just your words and some real sources. Either you have them or you don't. If you don't, time to shut up. If you do, show us.

Please note, I'm not shutting down the conversation, I'm asking you to contribute to the conversation in a meaningful way. I find what you have been saying not only inconclusive and unconvincing, I find it very offensive. Don't continue to cite the same ****. I watched your videos. They mean absolutely nothing. No conclusive facts, no credible sources, no decisive statements made. Just "what if?" crap over and over.

Prove me wrong. Please.

 

[shimmy2]

People give far too much credit/power to their governments in my opinion. Seriously all they can do is collect taxes and cut checks under the guise of a legal system. Nothing more and nothing less it all falls within that frame.

When you see a huge disaster like hurricane Katrina and the govs blundering so bad it takes a week for people to get a bottle of water shipped to them with FEMA you'll see how fragile the system is. And you're telling me this same system masterminded ALL of 9-11 entirely?? Have you seen the intelligence level of most gov employees? Most can't plan a fucking office birthday party let alone orchestrate a 9-11 plot without someone fudging up something down the line or leaking it to the interwebs.

Sure the gov/press can cover up stories and spin the press but no doubt a big portion of 9-11 was indeed very real.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

Please allow me to restate my question.

Could you please sum up, in your own words, without using youtube videos or copy and pasting from some website you've found, what you believe the salient points are? Citing credible sources with provable conclusions, could you please show us how you come to the conclusion that September 11 was an inside job?

No more videos, no more regurgitating. Just your words and some real sources. Either you have them or you don't. If you don't, time to shut up. If you do, show us.

Please note, I'm not shutting down the conversation, I'm asking you to contribute to the conversation in a meaningful way. I find what you have been saying not only inconclusive and unconvincing, I find it very offensive. Don't continue to cite the same ****. I watched your videos. They mean absolutely nothing. No conclusive facts, no credible sources, no decisive statements made. Just "what if?" crap over and over.

Prove me wrong. Please.

You know one can't write a book with an iPhone. The movie I posted does the best job in doing point by point my arguments with 9/11.

When I get to my lap top I'll list a thorough point by point argument. But as far as the controlled demolition aspect goes 911 Mysteries makes my points perfectly. Listen to the narrator and watch the video. That's why I said that. If you disagree, make a note of the time point so we can discuss.

I'll be back when I'm at my laptop.

 

[MrZiggles]

No. I believe it was a result of failed Clinton administration policies. Lack of intel sharing between our organizations, for example.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Every time you argue with an idiot like WTCWTF he'll drag you down to his level and try to beat you with experience.

Several members have put forth the best arguments against a gumment conspiracy, you nitwit, including the most compelling; if the conspirators were willing to **** a few thousand innocents, why would they let a few idiot theorists live?

Also, if it were an inside job, you fucking idiot, there would necessarily be thousands of people involved in the planning, supply, logistics and finally, the people who actually carried out the deed. Anybody who knows anything will tell you that once there is a secret that is known by more than one person it will not be a secret very long. Find one credible person, ONE, who will step forward and admit active participation in this conspiracy and who will lay out the command infrastructure and hierarchy and I will let Greg blow you at the 9/11 memorial. I would but I don't like baby dick.

For every douchebag you put forth as some sort of expert on this matter, I can find another youtube video debunking everything you've been led to believe. Even Bill Clinton claims 9/11 troofers are full of crap, moron.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

Every time you argue with an idiot like WTCWTF he'll drag you down to his level and try to beat you with experience.

Several members have put forth the best arguments against a gumment conspiracy, you nitwit, including the most compelling; if the conspirators were willing to **** a few thousand innocents, why would they let a few idiot theorists live?

Also, if it were an inside job, you fucking idiot, there would necessarily be thousands of people involved in the planning, supply, logistics and finally, the people who actually carried out the deed. Anybody who knows anything will tell you that once there is a secret that is known by more than one person it will not be a secret very long. Find one credible person, ONE, who will step forward and admit active participation in this conspiracy and who will lay out the command infrastructure and hierarchy and I will let Greg blow you at the 9/11 memorial. I would but I don't like baby dick.

For every douchebag you put forth as some sort of expert on this matter, I can find another youtube video debunking everything you've been led to believe. Even Bill Clinton claims 9/11 troofers are full of crap, moron.

Hey Johnny I'm on an iphone but your point that thousands had to be involved, it's called "compartmentalization". I know it's a big word but like I said before look it up. There only had to be a small group that knew the whole plan. The rest were just doing their jobs.

 

[Facetious]

Somebody explain something to me here . . . Prior to obama being sworn in as Potus, there were all kinds of flaming lefties running around frothing from the mouth chanting "Bush Knew" ad nauseam . . so my question is, why was there never any reprimand for their behavior? Nobody ever convicted them for being chemically imbalanced kooks, for they were simply people with a radically different political viewpoint . . compared to the masses anyway. :dunno:

That is interesting though, the changing of the tide in the belief system that took place within the more liberal circles since obama took office . . for I would never hear that ''Bush knew'' ever again . . why is that and how did that happen? Did I miss the directive on Awianna Huffintonopolous Post or something? (not that I ever go there in the first place, understand.)


Disclaimer: Do understand, I do not I believe that the events surrounding Sept 11, 2oo1 was a government plot to squish capitalism. . . I'll just stick to whatever Donny says.

 

[BoboBrowne]

No, but I do believe 911 is a joke in yo town...get up, get, get, get down.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Debating this is an exercise in futility. There is no evidence, no matter how convincing, that will ever be accepted by the 9/11 "Truth" Movement's hardcore evangelists. The irony is that the people who claim to be searching for the truth are so willing to ignore evidence and react angrily to those with conflicting evidence and testimony.

A bigger irony is that if there is a conspiracy, troofers with their deluge of disinformation are doing more than anyone else to help cover it up.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

Debating this is an exercise in futility. There is no evidence, no matter how convincing, that will ever be accepted by the 9/11 "Truth" Movement's hardcore evangelists. The irony is that the people who claim to be searching for the truth are so willing to ignore evidence and react angrily to those with conflicting evidence and testimony.

A bigger irony is that if there is a conspiracy, troofers with their deluge of disinformation are doing more than anyone else to help cover it up.

So of course I answer you again, and again you go into this stupid rant about nothing.

Seems to be a trend with you.

I swear I could show you video of cutter charges being placed on the columns and you'd still be saying I have no evidence.

 

[robbied196]

Happy New Year, same ****, different thread

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

So of course I answer you again, and again you go into this stupid rant about nothing.

Seems to be a trend with you.

I swear I could show you video of cutter charges being placed on the columns and you'd still be saying I have no evidence.

You personally don't answer anything, jagoff. You just keep posting bullshit youtube videos with asshats like Charlie Sheen and Jesse Ventura and expect everyone to ***** the kool-aid and accept it as gospel.

You offer no original compelling evidence to sway anything. You post the same, dated crap that has been debunked by everyone who hasn't been lobotomized.

And yes, asshead, I know what the word "compartmentalized" means, you stupid mufucka. I think the rational part of what passes for your brain has been compartmentalized in your colon.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

It's funny that this group of individuals who have been amalgamated into the 9/11 was an inside job **** group are now being called out for attempting to stifle rational discourse when on every occasion one of those individuals brought up salient counter arguments to the points being raised by those promoting this idea they were either ignored or had their arguments completely glossed over in favour of another seemingly irrelevant Youtube video because by all accounts the person espousing such ideas doesn't have the capacity on their own to counter them.

And yet you're surprised when people refuse to take the debate seriously?

Please....

I think it is rather obvious who pulled this thing off: it was a joint effort between Major League Baseball and the Arizona Diamondbacks. Their goal? To put Sarah Palin in the office of the President of the United States. It is so easy, if you look at this logically.
In an emotional game, the New York Mets defeated the Pittsburgh Pirates, 4-1. This was the first game after the attacks. This game had gone as scheduled to heighten the spirit of New Yorkers, to give them a false sense of hope. They played the Pirates, and easy patsy. The losing pitcher was a guy named Mike Fetters, who the next year was given a gift contract the next year by...the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Fast forward to the World Series. New Yorkers were again given a false sense of hope as the team continually came back with thrilling win after thrilling win against the Diamondbacks, coming from behind three times at home to win in the last inning in all three games. The losing pitcher in each of those games? Byung-Hyun Kim, a Korean pitcher. During the off-season, Kim worked with his uncle, one Kim Jong-il, to erode ties between the U.S. and Korea. His performance did nothing to help the U.S.'s perception of Koreans.
In a thrilling game seven of that World Series, the Diamondbacks came from behind to take the championship in one of the more thrilling games in history - and one of the most staged since the 1919 World Series. New York spirits had been raised by the Yankees' previous wins. This loss completely destroyed it.
The key players:
Tony Womack. A scrappy infielder from Virginia...near Washington D.C. He had been closely working with Bush to ensure a Diamondback victory, as well as one of the masterminds of the Twin Tower attacks. He had scored the winning run.
Luis Gonzalez. He is the man who got the hit in the 9th inning that ended the Series. Gonzalez is from Florida...whose governor at the time was Jeb Bush. Gonzalez had worked closely with Jeb to make sure the ballots in the 2000 election were confusing, opening the door for his *******'s Presidential victory.
Curt Schilling. Schilling was the starter in the game, and pitched a masterful one. Schilling was born in Alaska, and closely worked with Palin in masterminding the attacks.
In defeating the Yankees, the Diamondbacks destroyed the spirits of New Yorkers. A mostly liberal area, this would almost completely ensure they would be too distraught to vote for a decade. This, of course, proved true in the 2004 elections, when most New Yorkers did not vote, easily opening the door for a Bush second term.
Fast forward four years later.
In 2008, Schilling - who still had strong ties in Arizona - suggested "casually" to Arizona Senator and Presidential candidate John McCain that he chose none other than Palin as his VP candidate.
Unfortunately for them, their plan did not work. Obama won, thanks to the Chicago Whitesox, Chicago Cubs, a goat, Fred Merkle, Mwai Kibaki, and David E. Kelley (this is a whole other story).

Either that, or there are some paranoid fucks on this planet who see little green men, men in black suits and paranoia around every corner.

Hmmmm, nothing about her makes me believe this conspiracy more.

And when I was talking about people coming forward, I'm talking about the hundreds of people it would of taken to plant explosives in all 3 buildings. Where are they? The idea that so many people could pull off something like this without the media finding out and then not saying a word afterwards is simply ridiculous.

I said it before and I'll say it again, if it was an inside job, we would know about it by now, and it would be common knowledge instead of just pipe dreams belonging to overweight losers in their ******* basements.

I find it strange how WTC7WasPulled has been silent since real debate has been invited. Should we post a few youtube videos of no worth to make him feel comfortable to enter this thread again?

eh well. who's going to vegas this week?

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Brute ***** FTL! :dunno:

Please allow me to restate my question.

Could you please sum up, in your own words, without using youtube videos or copy and pasting from some website you've found, what you believe the salient points are? Citing credible sources with provable conclusions, could you please show us how you come to the conclusion that September 11 was an inside job?

No more videos, no more regurgitating. Just your words and some real sources. Either you have them or you don't. If you don't, time to shut up. If you do, show us.

Please note, I'm not shutting down the conversation, I'm asking you to contribute to the conversation in a meaningful way. I find what you have been saying not only inconclusive and unconvincing, I find it very offensive. Don't continue to cite the same ****. I watched your videos. They mean absolutely nothing. No conclusive facts, no credible sources, no decisive statements made. Just "what if?" crap over and over.

Prove me wrong. Please.

Debating this is an exercise in futility. There is no evidence, no matter how convincing, that will ever be accepted by the 9/11 "Truth" Movement's hardcore evangelists. The irony is that the people who claim to be searching for the truth are so willing to ignore evidence and react angrily to those with conflicting evidence and testimony.

A bigger irony is that if there is a conspiracy, troofers with their deluge of disinformation are doing more than anyone else to help cover it up.

Happy New Year, same ****, different thread

I'd buy everyone here a ***** if they're going to be in Vegas anytime soon but that would be fiscally irresponsible and darn near impossible for someone who's making so little money as a paid disinformation agent.

 

[larss]

If it was -- Assange will let us know

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Really. Well the victims ****** members like the one in the Geraldo video are rubbing salt in his own wounds eh? You should scroll to the top of the page and press play on all those videos. Really would be good you did that before making ignorant comments. Sorry if this is uncomfortable for you but it is very important because all the lies that followed and phony wars are all based on this event.

Sorry but a poll done in New York shows a touch over 50% do not believe the official story and about a third believe inside job. So I don't think your little tactic the tinfoil hat thing is going to work. 33% of the population is on my side and that's on the low side. More are waking up each day.

Polls were done in 2000 and 2004 and you ended up with George W Bush as the most powerful person on the planet.
There is a startling number of people below average intelligence. Over half of the worlds population are average or below...

People give far too much credit/power to their governments in my opinion. Seriously all they can do is collect taxes and cut checks under the guise of a legal system. Nothing more and nothing less it all falls within that frame.

When you see a huge disaster like hurricane Katrina and the govs blundering so bad it takes a week for people to get a bottle of water shipped to them with FEMA you'll see how fragile the system is. And you're telling me this same system masterminded ALL of 9-11 entirely?? Have you seen the intelligence level of most gov employees? Most can't plan a fucking office birthday party let alone orchestrate a 9-11 plot without someone fudging up something down the line or leaking it to the interwebs.

Sure the gov/press can cover up stories and spin the press but no doubt a big portion of 9-11 was indeed very real.

Finally I would point you to this fine post http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=5224731&postcount=1